Cal Ripken 83 Alternate Jersey and 86 Road Pants

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  • mr.miracle
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    During the first auction that the seller had these items listed, I had asked several questions and received very confusing answers to say the least. If the seller or any seller for that matter wants to be taken seriously at all especially in light of the amount of money at stake in this auction, I believe that it would be in their best interest to attempt to answer questions on some level of an intelligent manner.

    This is beyond bizarre at this point. I am sure we have all received some stupid questions while running ebay auctions from time to time but I certainly don't always list the questions and or answers especially when they don't make any sense at all.

    This is just plain ridiculous at this point.

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  • allstarsplus
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    Very odd that in the March 2nd question the writer wrote "wear" as "were" and in her response answer to the March 3rd question she wrote "wear" as "were". Can you shill question yourself?????

    It is beyond bizarre the quality of the questions and answers----very odd. Any thoughts?


    Q:
    Hello Jo Jo: I am wondering is this Chevy Tahoe guy trying to be a funny man or what? Why would Mrs. Ripken be wearing the Pants and Jersey? You said in your previous listing that it was "my time" Is it still your time? Why did you have to remove the game used Ripken batting glove from the auction? Did Ripken baseball force you to do so and why exactly? Will you have these items professionally authenticated if they do not sell? Can you give me Chevy Tahoe's email address and full name as I want to contact him to sell him some other items and to thank him for being a big stinky dope.


    Mar-03-07



    A:
    Maybe he weres his Mrs Pants! Some Guy Like that stuff and some are forced to do it hehehe !! Aution ened do too the glove!! Now i Can Run Aution!! I will send them to sports aution only if no one steps up in next few hours!! Good Luck!! And Its ALLWAYS My Time !!!






    Q:
    did mrs. ripken were these pants and jersie thanks


    Mar-02-07



    A:
    Ebayers name is chevy.tahoe Nice !






    Q:
    So I was like wondering, when did mr calvin ripkwen ware these pantss and jersie????? thanks!!!!!!!!!


    Mar-02-07



    A:
    Look Close In the 80s 83 - 85 Walmart has a rack of cheap Glasses






    Q:
    i am currently in spring training at the stadium in miami on my laptop, could you tell me if the jersey is signed? i can't see because of the glare from the sun let me know as i wanted this jersey for my sun freddie..Johnson Buns


    Feb-27-07



    A:
    There is only Signing on photo!!






    Q:
    Complicated!!! Bottom line, what is included in this auction? Do you have any other 80's Ripken road pants avaliable for sale? harvesttrustinv@aol.com George


    Feb-27-07



    A:
    Photo Pants jersey rookie cards other small items i and finding !! no other pants!! i Updated add after talking to ripken staff!!






    Q:
    hi i saw your item is your ripken jeans worn let me know freddie from miami


    Feb-25-07



    A:
    chevy.tahoe thank you my add was stoped so now i will make it better for the buyer!!! Not just the jersey you wanted all my ripken items go!!!

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  • ripkengamers
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    Re: Cal Ripken 83 Alternate Jersey and 86 Road Pants

    Brett,

    I'm just going to wait for it to reach the auction house with a Lampson LOA !

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  • mr.miracle
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    Here is the latest exchange between several potential bidders in the Ripken jersey and pants auction on ebay and the seller. If anyone gets the sellers address I would suggest we send in the men in the white coats. There is a nice padded room reserved for this individual although the person asking the last question might need a padded room as well. This auction and the series of events around it have become so absurd at this point that it would be impossible to take this situation seriously. I have to check back daily to see what type of ridiculous question or series of questions have been asked because this is a regular comedy routine.

    Enjoy

    Q: did mrs. ripken were these pants and jersie thanks
    Mar-02-07
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    Ebayers name is chevy.tahoe Nice !
    Q: So I was like wondering, when did mr calvin ripkwen ware these pantss and jersie????? thanks!!!!!!!!!
    Mar-02-07
    A:
    Look Close In the 80s 83 - 85 Walmart has a rack of cheap Glasses

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  • Canseco44
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    I just talked to the seller (I bought the Canseco game used bat from them) and they explained to me that she is selling this stuff for her father-in-law. This may explain at least some of the things that have been going on, such as it seeming like two different people are selling. Just a thought.

    Todd Ricks

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  • Utopian2630
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    I noticed that too when I read the listing for the lottery ticket. Similar listings for other items by that seller were also fairly coherent. Maybe someone else was responsible for selling merchandise on Ebay before the memorabelia inheiretence. If the prices were bargain basement and the seller was acting this way, I might suspect something was up (i.e. possibly selling items out of spite in some sort of divorce settlement ), but I honestly think it could be two different people writing these listings.

    BTW when buying a winning lottery ticket, what sort of verification would one need? Do lottery tickets ever expire?

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  • allstarsplus
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    Originally posted by Utopian2630
    Aparently this seller isn't just limited to game-used items, they sell lottery tickets too...here's a link to a winning Mass. State Lottery Ticket.


    Very odd. The auction description is well thought out with no spelling errors. I don't get it as the person who wrote this can't be the same person that is responding to questions on the Ripken auction.

    VALID WINNING LOTTERY TICKET - NO JOKE

    This winning lottery ticket could be yours. Caesars Palace Instant win Trip Prize Caesars Palace 4 days 3 nights in a deluxe room at the Caesars Palace Hotel and Casino Ground transfers to and from Las Vegas-McCarran Internations Airport round trip coach airfare for two (2) individuals from Logan and $500.00 in cash.


    Willing to meet buyer at lottery office to have instant claim You can validate this ticket by going to masslottery.com


    Must be 21 years or older

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  • Utopian2630
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    Re: Cal Ripken 83 Alternate Jersey and 86 Road Pants

    In another listing, this seller claims to have inheireted a game-used collection and is selling them (yet her husband bought the Ripken jersey back in '90). Also interesting is the seller's Pete Rose bat listing where a link is shown to 'another bat just like this', which turned out to be a Roger Clemens signed bat.

    Aparently this seller isn't just limited to game-used items, they sell lottery tickets too...here's a link to a winning Mass. State Lottery Ticket.



    Since this seller is all about making deals, maybe they'll throw in a few winning lottery tickets with the Ripken jersey.

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  • allstarsplus
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    Originally posted by mr.miracle
    Then again, maybe she is playing everyone for complete fools.
    Now there is a thought! It actually takes someone with at least 1/2 a brain to list a jersey and take the pictures and upload them, etc. In my opinion, (He or She) gives answers with LESS brainpower than someone with 1/2 a brain. It just doesn't make sense.

    Brett, I think you are on to something!!!!

    Caveat emptor----let the buyer beware! $5,000+ is a lot of dough on a "maybe" with ZERO provenance!

    Andrew

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  • mr.miracle
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    Originally posted by bigtime59
    Rich gets the prize for the correct answer. (The prize, of course, is the right NOT to bid on this auction.) This jersey apparently was boboed using a TBC jersey as a template...the problem being that a different number font was used in 1988 on these jerseys.
    The Orioles are very much of the opinion that "close is good enough" when it comes to TBC jerseys. If you look at the M&N and Majestic TBC jerseys they have worn in 2001, 2003 and 2004, you can find discrepancies in ALL of them.

    Mark
    bigtime39@aol.com

    The only question is, who doctored it? In the original ebay auction the lady selling the jersey said her husband obtained it in 1990 however I repeatedly asked her from whom and for additional details yet she never provided any of those. Based on the info. provided by various members it could not have been obtained in 1990.

    This woman cannot ever form coherent sentence structure so I am going to go out on a limb and say that she had nothing to do with doctoring an Orioles jersey enough to potentially fool various industry experts. Then again, maybe she is playing everyone for complete fools.

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  • bigtime59
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    Originally posted by Garistotle
    Guys,
    My opinion is that this jersey is definitely NOT a Ripken gamer from 1983. I've also been told that the O's didn't wear orange in 1983, however, I own an orange Leo Hernandez O's jersey from 1983. The tagging on the alleged "Ripken jersey" is identical to my jersey (WIlson tag and year/set marking). HOWEVER, THE NAMEPLATE/LETTERING AND NUMBERING ARE ALL WRONG, in my opinion. The problem with the nameplate/lettering, the Orioles always used vertical arch style letters on their orange jerseys during this era - the Ripken nameplate is not vertical arch style. I also believe that the number 8 on the front and the back are too large for this style jersey. The orange Wilson jerseys used numbers that were smaller than those used for their normal home & away jerseys. This jersey appears to be completely "doctored up."

    Please note that these observations are purely my opinion (and are based on my experience as a lifelong Orioles fan/collector). I'd hate to see someone get burned on this one.

    Rich
    Rich gets the prize for the correct answer. (The prize, of course, is the right NOT to bid on this auction.) This jersey apparently was boboed using a TBC jersey as a template...the problem being that a different number font was used in 1988 on these jerseys.
    The Orioles are very much of the opinion that "close is good enough" when it comes to TBC jerseys. If you look at the M&N and Majestic TBC jerseys they have worn in 2001, 2003 and 2004, you can find discrepancies in ALL of them.

    Mark
    bigtime39@aol.com

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  • mr.miracle
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    Forum Readers:

    Here is the latest link to this auction. Just an FYI, I had a bit of correspondence (If you can call it that lol) with the seller that was posted on the previous auction that was removed by ebay. I was naturally interested in this piece as a Ripken collector and as Andrew noted, if this is an authentic 83 piece coming from Cal's second full big league season, MVP and only World series year, this could be a rare find.

    I was not a bidder because as other members have pointed out, this lady seems to be slightly unbalanced. If you think the responses posted by her on the auction itself are a complete mess, you should see her private email responses to me. Unfortunately, I deleted them all, but I could not even make any sense out of several of them. Needless to say I was not about to drop over 5 grand on something from a seller who was unable to form a coherant sentance at any point in her listing and or responses to questions.

    It will be interesting to find out if anyone moves forward on this item with all of this additional information coming forward.

    Thanks

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  • mr.miracle
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    Uh guys, I have pretty much been working around the clock for the past 2.5 days so this is the first time I have had a chance to check back in on either the ebay auction or this thread. What the heck is going on with this auction and or what am I missing because this seems very confusing? Are we saying that Ripken baseball reported this to ebay as some type of copyright infringement? What was copywritten that was a violation? What is the true nature of this jersey does anyone know and is it a 2001 tbtc? The thread seems to have become very confused and I am just curious what is going on?

    BTW The lady that is or was selling this seems to be a real loon. She does not seem to have the vocabulary or spelling skill of a five year old so that alone really scared me off from this one.

    Thanks

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  • Garistotle
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    Re: Cal Ripken 83 Alternate Jersey and 86 Road Pants

    Guys,
    My opinion is that this jersey is definitely NOT a Ripken gamer from 1983. I've also been told that the O's didn't wear orange in 1983, however, I own an orange Leo Hernandez O's jersey from 1983. The tagging on the alleged "Ripken jersey" is identical to my jersey (WIlson tag and year/set marking). HOWEVER, THE NAMEPLATE/LETTERING AND NUMBERING ARE ALL WRONG, in my opinion. The problem with the nameplate/lettering, the Orioles always used vertical arch style letters on their orange jerseys during this era - the Ripken nameplate is not vertical arch style. I also believe that the number 8 on the front and the back are too large for this style jersey. The orange Wilson jerseys used numbers that were smaller than those used for their normal home & away jerseys. This jersey appears to be completely "doctored up."

    Please note that these observations are purely my opinion (and are based on my experience as a lifelong Orioles fan/collector). I'd hate to see someone get burned on this one.

    Rich

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  • allstarsplus
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    Originally posted by ripkengamers
    Oh know......................it's back !!



    Looks like the jersey was purchased in '04 from AM.........obviously with a Lampson LOA !

    I need a cryptographer to decipher this listing.......what a laugh! I'd be scared to send ANY money let alone $5k plus to someone with this level of intelligence!
    The AMI says it is a 2001 TBTC so I wouldn't think these are the same jerseys unless I am missing something......BTW, did you read the latest QUESTION about RATS???

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