Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I see after looking at old forums that EVERYONE hates lambeau though they defend others such as Radtke and Gridiron. You think this isn't worse than lambeau?? Come on.....
RADTKE:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRETT-FAVRE-AUTO-GAME-ISSUE-HELMET-2003-PACKERS-LE-44_W0QQitemZ230140151330QQihZ013QQcategoryZ27276QQrdZ1QQ

GRIDIRON:

http://cgi.ebay.com/BRETT-FAVRE-AUTO-11-22-01-GAME-ISSUE-TB-HELMET-BF-COA_W0QQitemZ260124640857QQihZ016QQcategoryZ27276QQrdZ1QQ

I think its fair to educate, and it is greatly appreciated but you need to be fair and unpartcial. That includes EVERYONE.

[aeneas01]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

Well, to be fair, this new guy doesn't go as far as lamby does to try and state that the helmet originated from the team's equipment room. He seems to be using the term "game issued" the same way that Radtke, and many other reputable dealers, have come to use it, meaning "closely approximates an actual game issued helmet". We've had that discussion before, misuse of the term has become far too common. Not excusing it, but I've learned to read carefully. New guy's listing leaves me knowing it's a knockoff, lamby's do not.

However, I can pick out several errors that keep this helmet from being a good copy, and even qualifying for the loose use of the term.

exactly - that's why i was sure to mention in my post:

but, to be fair, it looks like this guy really doesn't understand the term "game issued" given his item description - what's your excuse lambeau?

i didn't, however, realize the misuse of the term "game issued" had been discussed here before and/or was that rampant in the context you mention - personally i have not come across many auctions that claim an item to be "game issued" as an alternative to stating the item is a close approximation. but, then again, i only collect football helmets - perhaps it is more commonly used with jerseys or other sports collectibles...

[mvandor]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

hey mvandor -

did you notice that it looks like another lambeauleeper has hit the ebay scene?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tomlinson-Game-Issued-Throwback-Chargers-Helmet_W0QQitemZ200122154652QQihZ010QQcategoryZ37728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tomlinson Game Issued Throwback Chargers Helmet

apparently this guy has much difficulty grasping the term "game issued" as our friend lambeau - wonder how long before he starts to add "game used" and "issued to" in his ads as well. hey lambeau, how long did it take you to decide to start using these terms? first time out of the gate or was it a gradual process?

"You are bidding on a LaDainian Tomlinson Chargers Throwback Helmet. The helmet is brand new and comes with Tomlinson's face mask and tinted Oakley visor. Also comes with the double strap. This is a game issued helmet, just like the one Tomlinson wears on the field. Own a piece of 2006 MVP and All-Time Single Season Touchdown Record Holder. This helmet is a must-have for any Tomlinson or Chargers fan. Great for LT's autograph! Bid now and bid with confidence!"

those bolt decals look a little familiar, eh? good grief. but, to be fair, it looks like this guy really doesn't understand the term "game issued" given his item description - what's your excuse lambeau?

Well, to be fair, this new guy doesn't go as far as lamby does to try and state that the helmet originated from the team's equipment room. He seems to be using the term "game issued" the same way that Radtke, and many other reputable dealers, have come to use it, meaning "closely approximates an actual game issued helmet". We've had that discussion before, misuse of the term has become far too common. Not excusing it, but I've learned to read carefully. New guy's listing leaves me knowing it's a knockoff, lamby's do not.

However, I can pick out several errors that keep this helmet from being a good copy, and even qualifying for the loose use of the term.

[sylbry]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

So according to lambeau I could walk into the Twins Pro Shop and buy a Twins hat size 7 1/8. I could write "57" underneath the visor and then sell it as a Johan Santana game issued hat from 2007 that was purchased directly from the team. Afterall, the Twins Pro Shop is owned by the Twins.

Hey lambeau, if I did that would you buy the hat for $100 from me? I mean it is much less than $500 for a game used Santana hat. Nevermind the fact that you or I could buy the hat for $30 retail.

Bryan

[Jags Fan Dan]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I wouldn't buy from him after all I've seen on this forum, but does this seem fake?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mark-Brunell-1997-GAME-USED-WORN-Jersey_W0QQitemZ140132745918QQihZ004QQcategoryZ86829QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[aeneas01]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

hey mvandor -

did you notice that it looks like another lambeauleeper has hit the ebay scene?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Tomlinson-Game-Issued-Throwback-Chargers-Helmet_W0QQitemZ200122154652QQihZ010QQcategoryZ37728QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Tomlinson Game Issued Throwback Chargers Helmet

apparently this guy has much difficulty grasping the term "game issued" as our friend lambeau - wonder how long before he starts to add "game used" and "issued to" in his ads as well. hey lambeau, how long did it take you to decide to start using these terms? first time out of the gate or was it a gradual process?

"You are bidding on a LaDainian Tomlinson Chargers Throwback Helmet. The helmet is brand new and comes with Tomlinson's face mask and tinted Oakley visor. Also comes with the double strap. This is a game issued helmet, just like the one Tomlinson wears on the field. Own a piece of 2006 MVP and All-Time Single Season Touchdown Record Holder. This helmet is a must-have for any Tomlinson or Chargers fan. Great for LT's autograph! Bid now and bid with confidence!"

those bolt decals look a little familiar, eh? good grief. but, to be fair, it looks like this guy really doesn't understand the term "game issued" given his item description - what's your excuse lambeau?

[mvandor]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I see your point, however I see a lot of items that are game used or game issued that are no where close. His items are nice, especially his jerseys. I noticed he doesn't state that he obtained them from a team. How do you explain his jerseys. I am not defending him or her, I am new trying to educate myself.

"This helmet was issued to Dan Marino for on-field GAME USE during the 1998 season."

You seriously want to tell me this sentence doesn't indicate strongly to the buyer that this helmet actually traces back to the Dolphins equipment room? Problem is, none of his stuff does, they're all apparently self made copies. If he honestly represented them, he'd have a good business honestly, but he doesn't.

I personally overpaid him for an LT throwback helmet which was later proved here as a copy. I could have bought a very similar copy on ebay for half what the helmet went off at, solely because of the fraud. Check his other closed items, you'll see a similar pattern.

All this of course assumes you need to be told this because you're not him. Again.

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

I see your point, however I see a lot of items that are game used or game issued that are no where close. His items are nice, especially his jerseys. I noticed he doesn't state that he obtained them from a team. How do you explain his jerseys. I am not defending him or her, I am new trying to educate myself.

[aeneas01]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

The helmet looks identical.what's wrong with the price. A proline authentic retails for more. He also has some nice jerseys including game worn.

so if a helmet is priced affordably and looks like what marino wore then it's perfectly o.k. to claim that is game issued, game worn and "issued to dan marino for on-field game use during the 1998 season."?

you think that's perfectly o.k.? nothing wrong with that at all? perhaps you might want to follow up with something like:

"The problem I see with the memorabilia issues on auctions especially Ebay is that people are looking for a STEAL. They wont pay $3-$5,000.00 for a game worn helmet with a team letter. So they go to Ebay and want to pay next to nothing for an item then bitch."

lambeualeeper is a crook, a thief, a shameless fraud - the good news is that it looks like more and more folks are catching on to this. btw, didn't you get banned?

[mvandor]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

The helmet looks identical.what's wrong with the price. A proline authentic retails for more. He also has some nice jerseys including game worn.

Anytime a lamby discussion pops up here, I've noticed mysteriously that a new ID pops up to defend him. Last time Eric traced the uses to the same geographic area he lives in. Will yours trace there as well I wonder?

We all seem to agree he produces great copies, and if sold honestly as such, no problem. However, there's far too much consistent history with him to believe anything from him is legit as coming from the team's involved as he purports. He strangely comes by only the most popular players, and the same supposedly rare items repeatedly.

[big1Z]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

The helmet looks identical.what's wrong with the price. A proline authentic retails for more. He also has some nice jerseys including game worn.

[aeneas01]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta

why would he have a $200 starting point if not authentic?



the guy's a shameless piece of work, eh?

[mvandor]

Re: Lambeauleeper goin' for a Marino Tri-fecta



First thing I noticed was the shockblockers seem undersized for a 98 Marino, anything obvious to you guys? Not to mention, I'm relatively certain this is NOT the first one of these he's sold on ebay.

[mvandor]

Selling a Marino lid (http://cgi.ebay.com/Dan-Marino-1998-...QQcmdZViewItem) and two jerseys. Same ole sales pitch as usual.