America, 4th of July.....and Grey Flannel....

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  • whatupyos
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    Steve,

    I hope things go well for you. I personally don't think you have anything to worry about. I work for an attorney. Most just like to threaten people to get them to stop whatever they don't like. I don't think they can touch you for having an opinion. Do you know how hard it is to actually win a case of slander? Or claiming that a company lost business because of you? Damn near impossible. Johnny Cochran couldn't even pull that off, haha. Unless of course he uses the Chubaaca defense, lol. We live in America...thank God, and we have free speech (or so I thought) and its a shame there are some wimpy minded, thin skinned individuals who want to put a noose on free speech, its a damn shame. Speak your mind people and don't let anyone bully you. If I was on a jury, there is no way I could even think about convicting anyone for having an opinion. Like someone once told me....opinions are like bum holes, everyone has them and they all stink.

    Mr. 3000-

    I enjoyed your commentary. You think like I do. C&D, what a joke. Just for that company pulling off that rubbish, I will never bid on anything they auction off, no matter how bad I want the item. Come to think of it I will not even browse their web site. That's just ridiculous that they have to be like that. Its sad really.

    To the person who commented on Lawyers not knowing how to use good grammar....it happens all the time. I can't tell you how many times I've had to correct documents for the attorney I work for because of poor grammar. Thats why he has paralegals, like me, to clean up his mess. Unfortunately, I don't get paid the big bucks to clean up his garbage grammar, but it makes me feel good that I know how to phrase words better than him.

    Happy 4th to all!

    Aaron

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  • suicide_squeeze
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    I have to say.......this forum has quite a group of intelligent, able-minded members who are quick to get to the bottom of whatever issue they care to know about. You guys are impressive.

    I am letting this thread alone. It speaks for itself.

    I came here to let you all know I wasn't going to make any further problems for Grey Flannel by inflaming their existence with my opinion on........well, ANYTHING relating to them or their business. This all seems to be fairly serious. I guess it's from which point of view you are looking from: It's either a serious mess.....or a serious joke. I'm playing on the safe side, and I'm considering it a serious message.

    I truly believe I haven't done or stated anything that warranted a second (and final formal) cease and desist letter. But what kind of an idiot would I be to stick my hand in the flame again? There is nothing to gain by it. NOTHING gets by you guys anyways.

    Rudy, pretty much as consistently as the sun rising every day, is correct in regards to why I received these letters from a California licensed attorney. I really did a number on GF somewhere along the line in their opinion. They want my ass on a skillet, so I am shutting it down because I don't want to give them the satisfaction. I'm fairly sure it's one guy alone, and we all can guess who that is.....but again, that's my opinion, and it means nothing.

    You all can view that as a weakness or cowardly action......I'm just using common sense.

    For the record, I am apologizing for whatever I said that raised an eyebrow at Grey Flannel and instigated another phone call to Mr. Friedman requesting he send me this latest C & D letter.

    OK....back to other posts.

    Happy 4th of July to all you fine GUU members.

    Steve

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  • Rob L
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    Steve,

    Check out your the signature on your letter and the signature on the Grey Flannel letter. Friedman didn't even sign yours.

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  • sammy
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    This is the html version of the file http://www.greyflannel.com/stock/let...iedmanform.pdf.

    Google automatically generates html versions of documents as we crawl the web.

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    Page 1
    LAW OFFICES OF
    CHUDACOFF, SIMON & FRIEDMAN, LLP
    2100 WILSHIRE BLVD. SUITE 1 100
    LOS ANGELES,CA 90025
    Gregory S. Chudacoff*
    Robert S. Simon
    Douglas Friedman*
    A Professional Corporation*

    TELEPHONE (310)207-9800 *
    FACSIMILE (310) 826-3059


    September 10, 2008

    Mr. Richard Russek
    Grey Flannel Auctions
    8 Moniebogue Lane
    Westhampton Beach, NY 11978

    Dear Richie:

    Now that the Hall Of Fame Auction is in the books, I would like to express my gratitude to everyone associated with Grey Flannel for the manner in which I was treated and the stunning results of the Auction itself. You have always been forthright in advising me to acquire quality pieces as the cornerstone of my collection and to fill in other uniforms as they become available. I will never forget the day that when I asked you whether or not I should get my Bill Russell Jersey autographed, you responded with the simple question as to whether or not I would prefer to own a Babe Ruth Jersey or an autographed Babe Ruth Jersey. You correctly pointed out that most of basketballs' all time greats were still alive and in a position to sign their memorabilia. Face-to-face meetings with the likes of Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain were truly incredible experiences which might have otherwise never taken place.

    When we met in January of this year and reviewed my collection piece-by-piece you were careful to point out that it should be viewed as a Stock Portfolio and that certain pieces would go for higher prices than anticipated while others might not reach levels that I might hope for. We each evaluated the overall collection and came within five (5%) percent of each other's calculation. Fortunately, we were both low.

    The older, rarer and more desirable pieces had tremendous results. Our mutual concerns relating to the state of our economy and the possible effects on an auction eight (8) months away were overcome by the fact that people in this hobby will always pay for quality goods.

    My experience tells me that any collector or seller of memorabilia should always be willing to pay a premium for that which is truly special. It will make one's own collection that much better and at the time of sale should generate far more than the initial investment.

    In closing I want to thank TJ, Michael, Debbie and Michael Rosenbaum for their incredible attention to detail, patience with my numerous phone calls and overall level of professionalism that only served to reinforce my belief that regardless of our nearly 40 year personal relationship, that Grey Flannel and particularly the Hall Of Fame Auction was the right time, right place and right auction house to handle the auction of my collection.

    With fondest regards,

    Douglas Friedman

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  • kingjammy24
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    howard: i'm not a lawyer but from my understanding this sort of matter would be adjudicated by a state court (as opposed to federal). the decision of which state (CA or NY) would likely be based on where the defendant resides. a NY court would have no jurisdiction over steve because steve is not a resident of NY nor does he do business there. a CA court would be used as that's the state that has jurisdiction over steve due to his residency. in order to adjudicate in a CA court, he'd need to be served by a lawyer licensed to practice in CA. again, take that for what it's worth as i'm not a lawyer. that's simply been my understanding of the issue. here's more on personal jurisdiction:



    rudy.

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  • sammy
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    The Douglas E. Friedman listed on the C&D letter is not licensed to practice in the State of New York.

    There are two Douglas Friedmans listed with the New York bar, and Douglas Edward Friedman - #102686, California, is not one of those.

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    New York Bar Attorney Name:
    1) DOUGLAS IAN FRIEDMAN 1699073 Birmingham AL 1980 Currently registered

    2) DOUGLAS L. FRIEDMAN 2828374 Jersey City NJ 1997 Currently registered

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    It appears Grey Flannel is just using cheap labor for a cheap scare tactic.

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  • otismalibu
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  • dcrules01
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    If I read right Kobe 97-98 they sold is a 46

    00-01 sz 52

    05-06 sz 58

    That seems to be a big difference in sizing but I am no expert on his jerseys..Also I am no lawyer but him sending you the letter and consigning items with Grey flannel seems to be a conflict of interest..Maybe you made a comment about one of the jerseys he was consigning either way it is not right on there part.Good Luck

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  • earlywynnfan
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    Not only does Douglas Friedman sound like the type of lawyer that gives them all a bad name, but he also ain't bein' very good at grammar:

    "...my last attempt to to informally have you stop these type postings..."

    Aren't lawyers supposed to have college degrees?


    Steve, it's clear to me what you have to do now: Push this baby! Call Russek or whomever and find out why you in particular got a letter, and find out if it's the same Douglas Freidman. This has become a joke!

    Ken
    earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

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  • sammy
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    An old post in regard to Grey Flannels' business practices and expertise.

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    Re: MASAUCTION - Mitchell Schumaker seriouslyfolks (Login seriouslyfolks)

    May 11 2005 at 2:05 PM

    Response to MASAUCTION Mitchell Schumaker

    You are correct in your assumption regarding Mitch Schumacher of MS Auctions. There was an article in the May 11, 2001, issue of SCD regarding Mitch.

    In that article, it states he was arrested in the FBI's Operation Foul Ball.

    He admitted using an east coast authenticating firm to authenticate his game-model jerseys as game used. The east coast firm was Grey Flannel.

    Most of the "game used" items he sold on ebay before being arrested by the FBI, had Grey Flannel letters. He plead guilty.

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  • hblakewolf
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    Originally posted by suicide_squeeze
    Here is a pdf scan of the letter for those of you who want to see it. I have blacked out my address for obvious reasons......
    Complete details on the lawyer of this letter, Doug Friedman:



    Based on the information he provided, it's good to know that if I'm ever in the Los Angeles area and get bit by a crazed Pit Bull, He's the lawyer to retain!

    Howard Wolf
    hblakewolf@comcast.net

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  • Rob L
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    Originally posted by otismalibu
    Wonder if this is the same gentleman who wrote the letter?


    With the Los Angeles Lakers adding another World Championship to their storied franchise and Kobe Bryant winning the series MVP, we wanted to take this opportunity and offer to you, our loyal customers, three quality Kobe Bryant game-used jerseys which come to us direct from the Doug Friedman Collection. Each is accompanied by a Grey Flannel Letter of A uthenticity. Currently available are a 1997-98 Second Year Kobe Game-Used & Autographed Road Jersey, a 2000-01 Kobe Game-Used & Autographed Road Uniform from the Championship Season and a 2005-06 Kobe Game-Used Road Uniform. Please visit www.GreyFlannel.com to purchase these pieces of basketball history.
    Classic!! What an idiot. Friedman is obviously has quite a stake in anyone knocking Grey Flannel when he is trying to sell his stuff. Jeez Steve, you better be shaking in your boots!!!

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  • Mr.3000
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    Originally posted by hblakewolf
    Can a lawyer comment on the fact that the lawyer (Doug) is located in California, however, Richie Russek/Grey Flannel is a New York based company-why would a New York company retain a lawyer located 3,000 miles on the other side of the country? If indeed this case went to court, what state would try it, New York? If so, what's the chance that Doug can practice law outside of California or in New York?

    Howard Wolf
    hblakewolf@comcast.net

    I wonder if his firm would be interested to know that he is using the firms letterhead, and his position there, to send frivolous threats to people in order to protect his own interests in a game used auction house...that clearly sells items from his personal collection. Perhaps a phone call to the leading partner is in order.

    Oh what a tangled web we weave.......

    LOL

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  • Mr.3000
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    Originally posted by otismalibu
    Wonder if this is the same gentleman who wrote the letter?


    With the Los Angeles Lakers adding another World Championship to their storied franchise and Kobe Bryant winning the series MVP, we wanted to take this opportunity and offer to you, our loyal customers, three quality Kobe Bryant game-used jerseys which come to us direct from the Doug Friedman Collection. Each is accompanied by a Grey Flannel Letter of A uthenticity. Currently available are a 1997-98 Second Year Kobe Game-Used & Autographed Road Jersey, a 2000-01 Kobe Game-Used & Autographed Road Uniform from the Championship Season and a 2005-06 Kobe Game-Used Road Uniform. Please visit www.GreyFlannel.com to purchase these pieces of basketball history.

    LOL Busted!

    Great catch. And VERY interesting. Mr. Lawyer has his hands in the cookie jar. No wonder he wants no one to point out Grey Flannels many flaws.

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  • Rob L
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    Originally posted by suicide_squeeze
    Rob,

    Interesting. Where did you get that quote from? And thank you for posting.

    Steve
    Steve,

    I got that from West's Encyclopedia of American Law - libel and slander:

    Answers is the place to go to get the answers you need and to ask the questions you want

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