Very sad day for my collection

[TNTtoys]

Re: Very sad day for my collection

I just took another look at the card in question. It's called a "jumbo swatch" card, and instead of a patch, it displays what appears to be the top of the "Y" or "k" in New York, along with the gray material of the jersey. What strikes me odd is the fact that the card is a "1 out of 1." If it's clearly 1 small cutting of the jersey, why is it 1 of 1? Where did the rest of the jersey go?

Getting back to Frik's statement, where many younger collectors can have a piece of this collectible... Apart from the price being $200.00 (where people are being fooled into thinking they are getting something rarer than it actually is), why can only 1 person have this particular card? Where are the other 50 to 100 pieces of this jersey??? Are they going to be "exclusive" 1 out of 1 cards in other series? If so, isn't this deceptive marketing?

[TNTtoys]

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How many road jersey did they wear during that time?


Jojo

I would say that they had 2 per year. If I'm lucky, there could have been 1 or 2 more.

The problem is that in this particular year, the Mets wore a '1 year only' road style... so, when it's gone, it's gone!

[allstarsplus]

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There are card collectors and there are memorabilia collectors. Obviously there is a market for both, and as long as that is true, both markets will be satisfied because there are profits to be made. Yes, Babe Ruth jerseys and bats have been cut into pieces. The holy grail of the game used hobby turned into the holy grail of the card collecting hobby. They are still treasured pieces of memorabilia enjoyed and cherished by their owner, just not in the form some of us prefer.

The portion in bold is why the "cutting up the Honus Wagner card" comparison is flawed.

I see cards like Patches and logos cards which aren't game used and can be obtained from companies like National Emblem and direct from Majestic and this way they don't have to cut up a game used jersey or worst case cut up an Authentic.

Now that Topps has the MLB contract, hopefully they will get league wide cooperation that if they need a game used jersey they can do 1 game wonders to make it "game used" so they aren't cutting up well worn jerseys. If they were smart, they could require the jersey to be MLB hologram'd and then cut out the hologram/holograms for the cards. That would be something different for Topps!

[chipperhank44]

Re: Very sad day for my collection

There are card collectors and there are memorabilia collectors. Obviously there is a market for both, and as long as that is true, both markets will be satisfied because there are profits to be made. Yes, Babe Ruth jerseys and bats have been cut into pieces. The holy grail of the game used hobby turned into the holy grail of the card collecting hobby. They are still treasured pieces of memorabilia enjoyed and cherished by their owner, just not in the form some of us prefer.

The portion in bold is why the "cutting up the Honus Wagner card" comparison is flawed.

[Manram]

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I've wondered this same thing. How do you know the fabric is really from the star player? Just take the card companies word?

They must just taje their word on it. That's another reason collecting the whole jersey or bat is better. You know the player actually used it

[AWA85]

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I've wondered this same thing. How do you know the fabric is really from the star player? Just take the card companies word?

[legaleagle92481]

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How can you tell whose bat or jersey it really is on the little swatch or bat piece. With the price of game used items surprising card companies do not cut corners and buy a bunch of common player items for a song cut them up and put them on cards as belonging to stars.

[sox83cubs84]

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[quote=yankees.stub;186593]So with the same attitude ... why dont we cut up the priceless arts, declaration of independent (the day that they cut that up in pieces for the sake of sharing, that will be the day I will boycott that company completely).


I proposed in another thread that some card company should by a T206 Honus Wagner card and cut it up to stick in insert cards. Of course, to card companies, swatch cards are only a good idea when you're destroying items that AREN'T cards. The same collectors who get semi-orgasmic at an A-Rod, Ruth, or Mays game-used jersey or bat card would probably burn the place down if they cut up an iconic item from THEIR hobby.


Dave M.
Chicago area

[Texans]

Re: Very sad day for my collection

How many road jersey did they wear during that time?


Jojo

[yankees.stub]

Re: Very sad day for my collection

Moral of the story is that if you pass on an item, thinking that it will come back your way someday, there is that chance that it won't. You just may be losing that item to someone who has intentions to destroy it...

Well said....


You have my condolences....



Now please ... dont go and bid on one just for the sake of having something instead of nothing ..... guilt will kill you.

[TNTtoys]

Re: Very sad day for my collection

Moral of the story is that if you pass on an item, thinking that it will come back your way someday, there is that chance that it won't. You just may be losing that item to someone who has intentions to destroy it...

[Fnazxc0114]

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this may sound crazy but those little jersey cards and pieces of bats is exactly what got me back into collecting in the late 90's. It had probably been ten years since i bought anything baseball related. Its sad to see old jerseys getting cut up but i guess the owner can do with them as they please.

[yankees.stub]

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IMO it is very stupid to do this, although the only reason card companies do this is because they make more money. If you are serious enough about the game you would be willing to buy the whole game used bat or jersey and not a little piece. Just my $0.02

I would - if my bills allow of course.

If not, there is always the Hall Of Fame museum ... just like window shopping.


My holy-grail : a Thurman Munson bat - game used. It must documented.


Seen one on eB.... not to crazy about it!

[Manram]

Re: Very sad day for my collection

IMO it is very stupid to do this, although the only reason card companies do this is because they make more money. If you are serious enough about the game you would be willing to buy the whole game used bat or jersey and not a little piece. Just my $0.02

[yankees.stub]

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It was worst idea ever invented. So somebody can say I own a thumb sized swatch of x players game used jersey. But on the flip side it makes these things rarer as it takes one more out of the marketplace. Though it sucks big time if your looking for that item and it is so rare you cannot find another. Hojo used to be my favorite player actually so you have my symphaties.

With any stupid idea to work, someone will have to listen and buy into the crap they are selling.


I used to support the idea - running out and spend money on boxes and boxes and hoping to get a piece of jersey. It is a rush - get something really rare for very minimal money.

But when you dont, you continue to buy more boxes and even cases to get to the prize.


If I can go back and stop wasting money on packs, boxes and cases .... I would owned more stuff I desired!