Pete Rose FYIs

[LastingsMilledge85]

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[otismalibu]

Re: Pete Rose FYIs

FYI...

If you punch Pete Rose Bat into an anagram engine you get Operate Bets.

[STLHAMMER32]

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fyi, Here's an interesting quote from page 145 of "Countdown To Cobb."

"Wednesday, July 24

... I had two singles today, which leaves me 31 hits short of breaking the Cobb record. We've got 70 games to go.

I singled to right in the first inning off Rick Aguilera to give us a 1-0 lead. He threw me the same pitch that I had swung on and missed before. I just choked up on the bat a little more the second time. Made the bat lighter and quicker. He was throwing a little harder than I thought."

This makes me wonder why Rose would need to use a lighter, corked bat if he could just choke up on his regular bat.

Because he might have believed the cork gave him an advantage, a little extra pop off the bat. This was before several studies and tests were done to see if cork actually helped. It's the reason why anyone from baseball would try cork....because everyone is always looking for an edge.

[nycpropain]

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Can you post the part where he denies cheating over and over again only to admit it years later.

I hope you are not quoting this lying degenerates book as truth, the dude has a long history of lying.

[Neely8]

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Why don't you just post the whole book in this thread? I'm not quite sure what your point is here.

[tacprc]

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fyi, Here's an interesting quote from page 145 of "Countdown To Cobb."

"Wednesday, July 24

... I had two singles today, which leaves me 31 hits short of breaking the Cobb record. We've got 70 games to go.

I singled to right in the first inning off Rick Aguilera to give us a 1-0 lead. He threw me the same pitch that I had swung on and missed before. I just choked up on the bat a little more the second time. Made the bat lighter and quicker. He was throwing a little harder than I thought."

This makes me wonder why Rose would need to use a lighter, corked bat if he could just choke up on his regular bat.

[Rob L]

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FYI, who cares? He cheated.

[tacprc]

Re: Photo matched PR4192 Rose bat with surprise!!!!

Overall Rose batted 2.64 = 107 hits against 405 at bats.

Rose had 86 walks in 1985 -- a high number relative to his at-bats -- so he had a respectable .395 on base percentage for the season.

[tacprc]

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fyi, here's a quote from page 165 of "Countdown To Cobb"

I'm getting asked a lot why I'm not starting myself against lefthanders. ... When I played last year for Montreal, I didn't start against many lefthanders. I did early, but not late. When I came back to Cincinnati on August 17, I just decided to keep it that way.

fyi, in 1984 Rose hit only .211 against lefthanders while hitting .310 against righthanders.

Entering the 1985 season, Rose had a .292 lifetime batting average against lefthanders and a .311 career average against righthanders.

[tacprc]

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fyi, here's a quote from page 196 of "Countdown To Cobb" that might shed light on what Pete would be wearing during batting practice in 1985

Saturday, September 7

Today was a scorcher. The termperature in Chicago reached 99 degrees and it was humid.

The weather got to me in batting practice. I got sicker than a dog and had to go in and take a cold shower. I guess I didn't realize how hot it was because, as usual, I wore a sweat jacket at practice. Larry Starr, our trainer, said that's probably why I got sick.

I felt OK once the game started, but I didn't get any hits.

[tacprc]

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fyi, in 1985 Rose started games against right-handed pitchers only. For the most part Tony Perez started the games against left-handed pitchers.

fyi, here's a quote from page 165 of "Countdown To Cobb"

I'm getting asked a lot why I'm not starting myself against left-handers. ... When I played last year for Montreal, I didn't start against many lefthanders. I did early, but not late. When I came back to Cincinnati on August 17, I just decided to keep it that way.

During spring training this year I never had any doubt that Tony Perez would make our ball club, but he was primarily going to be my best pinch-hitter. I let him start at first base early in the season (beginning in the second week of May) and he did well against lefthanders, so I continued to use him against them.

[tacprc]

Re: Photo matched PR4192 Rose bat with surprise!!!!

fyi, in 1985 Rose started games against right-handed pitchers only. For the most part Tony Perez started the games against left-handed pitchers.

Overall Rose batted 2.64 = 107 hits against 405 at bats.
Versus right-handed pitchers Rose batted 2.52 = 90 hits against 357 at bats.
Versus left-handed pitchers Rose batted 3.54 = 17 hits against 48 at bats.

Since Rose was a switch hittter and batted lefty against righty pitchers, PR4192 bats will have the majority of their ball marks, sanding, etc. on the right-hand side of the barrel.

[platinum1]

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Here's a final quote from page 202 of "Countdown To Cobb."

"I got the big knock (hit No. 4,192) tonight -- a single off San Diego's Eric Show in the first inning. The Cobb record is mine.

I also got a triple and a walk and scored both our runs as we beat the Padres, 2-0. I ended the game by making a diving stop on a Steve Garvey grounder. The whole thing was like a movie script.

I picked out a different bat tonight, one that was a little lighter. I was whipping it pretty good in batting practice and decided to go with it."

Maybe because the bat was corked LOL

[tacprc]

Re: Photo matched PR4192 Rose bat with surprise!!!!

Here's a final quote from page 202 of "Countdown To Cobb."

"I got the big knock (hit No. 4,192) tonight -- a single off San Diego's Eric Show in the first inning. The Cobb record is mine.

I also got a triple and a walk and scored both our runs as we beat the Padres, 2-0. I ended the game by making a diving stop on a Steve Garvey grounder. The whole thing was like a movie script.

I picked out a different bat tonight, one that was a little lighter. I was whipping it pretty good in batting practice and decided to go with it."

[tacprc]

Re: Photo matched PR4192 Rose bat with surprise!!!!

fyi, here's another interesting quote from "Countdown To Cobb" -- this time from page 43.

I've learned one thing managing I probably knew all along, but never really paid much attention to. In baseball today, one thing that hurts young players -- and some of the veterans, too -- is they don't prepare themselves right for a game.

They just don't get ready. The game starts and they don't know where in hell their bats are. They don't know where their batting gloves are. I'm serious.

I just hope they watch me. You can ask anybody on this team who in this league knows at all times where his bats are. Pete Rose. I do.

Because everywhere I go, I've got that bat with me. I take my ground balls and I put it right by the screen near first base. When I'm through with ground balls, I take my glove and my hat and I get my batting helmet and I have my bat in hand.

I'm the only guy on the team who after the game takes his bats out of the dugout rack and puts them in his locker, or next to my desk in my office when we're home.

I've seen guys go on road trips and they're ticked off they don't have their bats. I say, "Where are they?" "The batboy was supposed to pack them in the bags," they say.

"What do you mean the batboy is supposed to put your bats in the bags? You have to pick your own bats out and put them in the bags yourself. That's your responsibility."