Why did this BJ Upton GU Fielding Glove go so Cheap?

[joelsabi]

Re: Why did this BJ Upton GU Fielding Glove go so Cheap?

I wouldn't call that a smoking gun. I have a 2005 Mizuno glove of Gomes, which was either his backup or used late season. His other 2005 glove went through Locker Room Memorabilia, and, while I'm not sure of the provenance of mine, it is stylematched and perfectly fits in with Mizuno's records. It's entirely possible that the Upton glove in question was given to a friend, relative etc., who eventually turned around and sold it.

Mizuno provided you with record? How easy was that?

What I am trying to say is that you need to take caution when purchasing a fielders glove. Right now there are no less than three dealers who periodically sell Rawlings PRO-RV23 for $400-$500 unsigned. You could style match it easily. You could easily put use on it and attempt to sell as game used using your own COA. Most glove and Alex Rodriguez collectors won't buy into that because they know who handles his game used equipment.

Could you buy a Albert Pujols or Vlade Guerrero's fielders glove, whether issued or game used, that was likely given to a relative or friend? Yes. Will it have the same resale value as a glove from Albert's Foundation? No. That's all I was saying. There is the main equipment handler for a player and then there is everyone else. For scarcer items like fielder's gloves and batting helmets, I would look to the most likely person to sell the item.

[LWMM]

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LWMM, does your glove of Gomes have the area code 707 on it? I read that Gomes puts his area code on his cleats and gloves.

You know, I was looking at my 2005 cleats (from LRM) the other day for just that. Neither the cleats nor the glove have a 707. That also can't mean much, however, as the cleats are rock solid in terms of provenance. I imagine that some of his cleats, and some of his gloves, have the 707, but not all.

[LastingsMilledge85]

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I wouldn't call that a smoking gun. I have a 2005 Mizuno glove of Gomes, which was either his backup or used late season. His other 2005 glove went through Locker Room Memorabilia, and, while I'm not sure of the provenance of mine, it is stylematched and perfectly fits in with Mizuno's records. It's entirely possible that the Upton glove in question was given to a friend, relative etc., who eventually turned around and sold it.

LWMM, does your glove of Gomes have the area code 707 on it? I read that Gomes puts his area code on his cleats and gloves.

Here's my glove that I photomatched as an example. It comes with a letter of opinion that doesn't sound convincing but these photos are convincing for me. The wear and "curled" string match. It states the gloves is from 2007, but the second in-game picture is from 2006, and I believe this is the only model of that glove that he wore as a Met. There's pictures of him with other gloves during his Mets tenure, but they are not the same model and I'm not sure if those other saw much game action (mainly used during ST and BP).

[Rob L]

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Look at the right thumbstrap. Near the top, there appears to be a scratch or thread that looks similar to the thumbstrap on the photo of the glove on his head. Interesting.

[CampWest]

Re: Why did this BJ Upton GU Fielding Glove go so Cheap?

perfectly fits in with Mizuno's records.

Is there a way to get Mizuno's player order records?

[LWMM]

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I agree. IMO, I would not even look at a Fielding Glove listing of the Upton brothers unless it came from Locker Room Memorabilia. They are supposed to be the exclusive client of LRM and they have never offered a GU fielding glove for either player. I find it odd that its not LRM selling the glove. Maybe a bat or a batting glove gets thru but a fielding glove? I need really good provenance to take that leap that it was GU, preferably a COA signed by the players himself.

I wouldn't call that a smoking gun. I have a 2005 Mizuno glove of Gomes, which was either his backup or used late season. His other 2005 glove went through Locker Room Memorabilia, and, while I'm not sure of the provenance of mine, it is stylematched and perfectly fits in with Mizuno's records. It's entirely possible that the Upton glove in question was given to a friend, relative etc., who eventually turned around and sold it.

[joelsabi]

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Interesting. I saw that glove when it first started and I clicked on the link to the video and a comment, which had been posted five minutes before I clicked on the link said basically that the glove was purchased through eBay and then had use "added" to it. Not sure why someone would lie about that and post it as a comment on the youtube page. Now that comment is gone, but maybe some potential buyers saw that before it was deleted. That's the huge problem with gloves and why I changed my mind about buying them. Unless you have outstanding provenance, an issued glove can be purchased and have use added and you can't really tell the difference (no distinct characteristics usually).

I agree. IMO, I would not even look at a Fielding Glove listing of the Upton brothers unless it came from Locker Room Memorabilia. They are supposed to be the exclusive client of LRM and they have never offered a GU fielding glove for either player. I find it odd that its not LRM selling the glove. Maybe a bat or a batting glove gets thru but a fielding glove? I need really good provenance to take that leap that it was GU, preferably a COA signed by the players himself.

[CampWest]

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okay I'm done after this

[CampWest]

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even better...

and note the untied thumb laces match the ebay glove, though that certainly doesnt prove much

[spartakid]

Re: Why did this BJ Upton GU Fielding Glove go so Cheap?

Interesting. I saw that glove when it first started and I clicked on the link to the video and a comment, which had been posted five minutes before I clicked on the link said basically that the glove was purchased through eBay and then had use "added" to it. Not sure why someone would lie about that and post it as a comment on the youtube page. Now that comment is gone, but maybe some potential buyers saw that before it was deleted. That's the huge problem with gloves and why I changed my mind about buying them. Unless you have outstanding provenance, an issued glove can be purchased and have use added and you can't really tell the difference (no distinct characteristics usually).

[CampWest]

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very good finding the blue stitching. i thought it might be his backup glove. that glove was a steal.

FYI. All the pics I found with blue stitching were 2009... anything discernible from 2008 was teal/green.

[joelsabi]

Re: Why did this BJ Upton GU Fielding Glove go so Cheap?

blue stitching

very good finding the blue stitching. i thought it might be his backup glove. that glove was a steal.

[CampWest]

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blue stitching

[LastingsMilledge85]

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My only guess would be (for lack of better word) "strength" of the COA. I got my glove for a decent price, may have been a little higher than the Upton glove and came with the worst and shoddy COA I have seen, but I photomatched it to several games over two seasons. Looking at this glove and photos of in-game action of Upton and I cannot prove that this glove was actually game worn. Maybe more people are doing their homework?

[camarokids]

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Thanks Luc!

I tried to copy page, but when I went to post them on GUU, it came up invalid format.