Braves make trade with teen for Chipper's 450th HR

[dplettn]

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I certainly don’t know what exactly transpired when a deal was made between the 16 yr old (representing her own interests) and adults (representing Chippers’ interests). Whether her minor status is legally relevant or not, my experience with the Braves organization causes me to give the benefit of the doubt as to whether there was any intent to manipulate the teenager.


When I was young, I sold my ticket stub from a perfect game for a pittance. My error; and I wish it was a situation where I was giving something to a player or a member of his family, as this girl was. There is human pride in what this teen did, regardless of differences in market value.


I think the bigger issue is that what did or did not transpire when the girl (or her family) had financial regret. The ball was already in the players’ hands no doubt. Regardless, would be rather simple to exchange her autographed ball and hat for something else more to her liking. Doing so may have left everyone happy. What we all need to remember is that we don’t know exactly what transpired. Did the teen’s custodian approach the organization demanding three thousand dollars, or did they approach the organization with courtesy and in good taste?


It is not fair to make assumptions about anyone, including the organization IMHO. Once the minor and her family have the benefit of an attorney coaching their voice for the media we must all recognize that we can’t assume that voice is similar in taste to the voice that approached the team. Based on my experience with the team, I personally give the benefit of the doubt to how their personnel would have handled a practical request made in good taste.



Regardless, from a risk management perspective they no doubt wish that they had found common ground with the parents regardless as to whether the families approach for renegotiation was made in good taste or not.

[Astros1994]

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I said major sports

Football
basketball
hockey
baseball

And take the Marlins for instance. Some fan base 305 people at a game this year. My dolphins who play in the same stadium draw a lot more and they are horrid. Why is that?

Just read the following article about the Dolphins and several of their sponsors who bought approximately 10,000 tickets for the game against the Texans. They then gave the tickets away for free. http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/theda...e-blacked-out/

[BU54CB]

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Right back to topic. She was given the ball as a gift, and she decided to trade it away. She is sixteen and can make her own choice, its not a contract that wouldn't be binding to a minor. Sure the Braves were cheap with a couple lame gifts, but she could easily have said no thanks, it was a gift for her birthday.

I'll bet the guy who gave her the ball isn't too happy either

Just because she made a choice doesn't make the whole situation right, and it also doesn't mean that she actually knew what she was doing.

[freddiefreeman5]

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I'm not sure if I have ever heard of a team giving a gift for a monumental baseball that was a fair trade.
What the Braves offered was not much but they are not doing anything the other teams don't do.

[Trublubrucru]

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Right back to topic. She was given the ball as a gift, and she decided to trade it away. She is sixteen and can make her own choice, its not a contract that wouldn't be binding to a minor. Sure the Braves were cheap with a couple lame gifts, but she could easily have said no thanks, it was a gift for her birthday.

I'll bet the guy who gave her the ball isn't too happy either

[momen55]

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ok. what about thew chipper ball trade? she shouldn't have gave in. screw them! i would have gone to the media or someone to bring this cheap stunt out.
the dumbies running mlb are nothing more than greedy bastards who don't care about anyone but themselves, and it is obvious and it shows. selig and everyone else are deadbeats.

[Trublubrucru]

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With the advent of digital cable, television ratings have become somewhat diluted. With 500 or so channels, the population base is spread out over many more choices than even ten years ago. Attention spans are not what they used to be either, too many choices and distractions. Personally, last season I never got through an entire NBA game, and I think NHL is unwatchable on t.v. A truer measure of the sport popularity might be attendance to games, check those figures.

[Dolphins23]

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well first and foremost you are talking about 81 home games a year vs 8 so of course more people are gonna show up.

No I know you guys are right. I guess its a hard argument when dealing with opinions.

I just feel baseball dose not have the appeal to me that it once had. Just my opinion. I used to love baseball growing up because it was an outdoor summer sport that was awsome to go watch. But now I just can't stomach it anymore. I guess It's because I'm young and need more action to keep attention spane. They say with age you learn to appreciate the pace of baseball a lot more. So maybe when I'm in my 40's-50's (taken I live that long) I will appreciate the game more than I do now.

[OaklandAsFan]

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I said major sports

Football
basketball
hockey
baseball

And take the Marlins for instance. Some fan base 305 people at a game this year. My dolphins who play in the same stadium draw a lot more and they are horrid. Why is that?

well first and foremost you are talking about 81 home games a year vs 8 so of course more people are gonna show up.

[LastingsMilledge85]

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If the Dolphins played 1000 games there a season they would draw more then 300 fans.

Is this a joke? 1000 games, I know you are exaggerating but your numbers are laughable. The Marlins averaged 18,770 fans per game in 2009 (2010 stats aren't released yet). It's going to take a lot more than 300 fans per game to reach that number. The Marlins are in the worst market for baseball, so you are comparing the worst team attendance to a middle-market NFL team.

Lastings I understand you love baseball and your going to defend it and I would do the same if I loved the sport. So I'm not saying there are no fans out there. What I'm saying is the Avg fan will not watch a baseball game over a football fan. Not talking the Die hards who grew up going to the games and watching the games when they were great! That ended in the 90's for me though.

I love baseball and football, but I'm going to stand behind sanity and realism. I'm not sticking up for baseball per say. There's a reason why I rarely post on here anymore, and posts like these speak volumes. But when I see ridiculous false statements on here, someone has to stand up.

Now I ask Lastings. Is the sport better today? Or better back in the 80's-90's

Well, the '90s was the steroids era, so the sport wasn't better, but the homeruns flocked people to the games and television. '80s? Wasn't watching.

[Dolphins23]

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Lastings I understand you love baseball and your going to defend it and I would do the same if I loved the sport. So I'm not saying there are no fans out there. What I'm saying is the Avg fan will not watch a baseball game over a football fan. Not talking the Die hards who grew up going to the games and watching the games when they were great! That ended in the 90's for me though.

And If you can honestly say that the game is a better sport today than it was in 1980's than thats your opinion.


Now I ask Lastings. Is the sport better today? Or better back in the 80's-90's

[Shipp_96]

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This is a great article that breaks down the MLB, NHL and NBA rankings by market. I think they do not include the NFL due to it's on top of all of them.

MLB does better in every market except LA, Boston (NBA), DC, Pittsburgh (NHL) in cities with both an MLB and NHL/NBA team.

http://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2010/04/local-on-eights-ratings-for-nba-mlb-and/

[Dolphins23]

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Not once you said that




The Marlins play how many home games in a season? 81. Your Dolphins? 0. The Miami Dolphins? 8. That's a big chunk as to why.

If the Dolphins played 1000 games there a season they would draw more then 300 fans.

[Dolphins23]

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http://bizofbaseball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=3622:mlb-sees-tv-ratings-down-for-2009-regular-season&catid=57:television&Itemid=122

Heres another credited source. MLB itself!

[LastingsMilledge85]

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And this is why baseball is where it is today. (Lowest ratings in the nation as far as sports)

I said major sports

Football
basketball
hockey
baseball

Not once you said that

And take the Marlins for instance. Some fan base 305 people at a game this year. My dolphins who play in the same stadium draw a lot more and they are horrid. Why is that?

The Marlins play how many home games in a season? 81. Your Dolphins? 0. The Miami Dolphins? 8. That's a big chunk as to why.