Fraudulent Houston Astros COA

[hfd0035]

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I really can't figure out two things:
1. Why would any member of this forum ever buy something Chris Boyd?
2. Why wouldn't the buyer press charges against Chris Boyd?

To tell you the truth Bag, I feel pretty dumb for buying and not doing my research. First off, I figured who would really want to have a negative post on this forum against them for other members to see? Secondly, lets be honest, it was an Astros Oswalt. I love the Astros and everything but I wasnt trying to land Biggio or Bagwell. And third, alcohol..... Checking the CC and emailing while drinking all day in a bar watching football probably wasnt helpful. Live and learn I guess. Research research research

[Preston]

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What legal actions, if any, can be taken against the seller?

Mail fraud for sure, most likely wire fraud too. He could be in some serious trouble if buyers were to really press the issue legally. no offense, I hope they do because regardless of me being (seemingly) the only one who didn't get burned by Chris, I'm ALL FOR cleaning up this hobby because that's exactly what this is - A HOBBY.

Dictionary.com defines hobby as: an activity or interest pursued for pleasure or relaxation and not as a main occupation: Preston's hobbies include game worn memorabilia collecting and photo editing. (OK so I edited the last sentence but you get the idea )

[tella27]

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He did - he has no issues with saying that he doctored items in the past but at the same time people continue to buy from the guy. Nothing short of kicking this guy off the forum will keep him from doing the same thing to someone else and them starting another egameused rip of thread...

[karamaxjoe]

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All,

I appreciate this forum and what it offers. The comments posted regarding me are deserved and expected knowing my past history. I see no sense in defending myself further. I will take the blame on this. I admitted I was naive on this transaction. Despite my knowledge in the actual equipment, I was not familiar with the LOAs. I should have caught this and asked questions sooner.

I too would not buy from me based on these postings . Good Luck in the hobby.

Thanks,

Bad Roy Oswalt jersey - $350.00
Copy of an LOA - Worthless
"I too would not buy from me based on these postings " - PRICELESS

Looks like Chris just told you all to go %@&* yourselves.......

[eGameUsed]

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All,

I appreciate this forum and what it offers. The comments posted regarding me are deserved and expected knowing my past history. I see no sense in defending myself further. I will take the blame on this. I admitted I was naive on this transaction. Despite my knowledge in the actual equipment, I was not familiar with the LOAs. I should have caught this and asked questions sooner.

I too would not buy from me based on these postings . Good Luck in the hobby.

Thanks,

[bagbig]

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I really can't figure out two things:
1. Why would any member of this forum ever buy something Chris Boyd?
2. Why wouldn't the buyer press charges against Chris Boyd?

[Klattsy]

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Just a quick update on my purchase. It has been received at my US shipping address. Package wasn't opened as it was forwarded straight to me. Hope i'm getting what was sold to me. I have closed the paypal case.

[mbenga28]

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What legal actions, if any, can be taken against the seller?

[yanks12025]

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I guess we should lower the selling limit over on CC, maybe $10 tops.

[jppopma]

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Very sad to see this kind of stuff going on.

I thank Chris for replying on here, but sadly the reply dances around the issue. I refuse to list all of the clues since I don't wish to create better liars, but one tell tale sign is the vagueness of the post.

Leaves all of us wondering if Chris got bad coa's from the "Patrick" seller (which would be odd as the Astros may not have issued a coa on the Oswalt), or photocopied/altered the legit coa that he got with the legit Oswalt jersey and mixed it up with the Oswalt that he gave to the original poster. We may never know what happened here...

[dplettn]

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I have limited knowledge of Chris, but had taken at face value from his self-representation that he tries to be “good” in our hobby. The risk to anybody is that when individuals choose to blend dealing with collecting they expose themselves to varied conflicts of interests. Depending on character, some people are more susceptible to do bad things motivated by conflicted interests. Rather than enterprising, we individuals should all just help others in our hobby without financial motive!



Whether considering this situation, or any other, I believe the hobby and its community are always served when people and teams make effort to transact directly rather than foster an array of small-scale enterprisers. I have never bought, sold, or traded items with Chris. Other than direct (teams), I’ve only purchased from people who have tired of items they had originally acquired for a prurient collecting purpose, and from trusted businesses who provide a trustworthy secondary market for folks. For me, an item is less desirable if it has ever been owned by certain uniquely motivated small scale enterprisers.


It is clear here that Mike Acosta of the Astros continues to do the right things, even in this situation. Hopefully, one fact for our community to focus on is that the Astros’ in-house stewardship of the game used segment has been favorable for years. I expect Mike Acosta and the Astros Game Used segment should continue to thrive.


For those who are Astros collectors, have confidence in anything you buy direct from Mike Acosta and the Astros organization. While his time is limited, Mike can be reached at macosta@astros.com.

[bagbig]

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If anybody believes Boyd's excuses, then call me- I have some oceanfront property in Arizona.....

[frikativ54]

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Egameused is a joke - EVERYTIME he gets caught he has some sad story about him not knowing or have been ripped off in the past blah blah.. It's been proven that he doctors items - now is that a mistake? He's been shown to ignore people when they have issues after purchase and also that he doesn't always ship the item if you pay as a gift. These are things he's done a few times and been caught!!! How are these continued to be just passed off as mistakes like he's a child and didn't know better? He just said he's been doing this for 24 years - these were done purely to SCAM someone and make money. Where does it end - first it was making bats looked used now its faking COAs!! It's not a question if this guy did these things - the question is why is he still allowed on the forum?

This is what I cannot figure out and what I have put in bold above: Why is Boyd still allowed to post on the forum? There have been numerous examples of items doctored and multiple instances of forged LOAs over several threads.

Also, I've never been able to forget how Boyd responded to me when I had an issue with a jersey a few years ago, and I confronted him on GUU about how his story did not make sense:

"Frik,

I don't have to disclose any and all items to you! I can lie about what I have, I can hype up my items, I can change my mind, I can choose to sell, I can choose to make as much profit as I want! You can disagree all day long and tell me I am wrong, but I can still do what I want."

-Chris Boyd (link)

If, by his own words, Chris does not feel he is under any obligation to tell the truth, then how can we believe the stories he tells?

How do we know that there really was a "Patrick" that sold the jerseys with the fraudulent LOAs to him? How do we know that he's bought 300+ Astros' jerseys? How do we know that it was a mere mistake that the Oswalt shirts were described as having great use when there really was no use? Or that letters merely got switched up?

The simplest explanation is usually the best. And it's pretty clear here what that explanation is; it doesn't take a rocket scientist to connect the dots.

[slab0meat]

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I can't say I'm that surprised he's still around. The C2C section often has items posted that are on eBay, and people make multiple posts instead of one for multiple items... just two rules that aren't followed.. and occasionally items are sold over $500. Rules day a poster is suspended immediately for breaking them, without warning.. Also says GUU doesn't moderate that forum (though to enforce those rules, don't they have to?)

ANYWAY... too much evidence against the guy.. sounds like "stay away" is the safest option.

[tella27]

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Egameused is a joke - EVERYTIME he gets caught he has some sad story about him not knowing or have been ripped off in the past blah blah.. It's been proven that he doctors items - now is that a mistake? He's been shown to ignore people when they have issues after purchase and also that he doesn't always ship the item if you pay as a gift. These are things he's done a few times and been caught!!! How are these continued to be just passed off as mistakes like he's a child and didn't know better? He just said he's been doing this for 24 years - these were done purely to SCAM someone and make money. Where does it end - first it was making bats looked used now its faking COAs!! It's not a question if this guy did these things - the question is why is he still allowed on the forum?