Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

[momen55]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

there is a bench retail bat on ebay now that has been there for at least a year, that the person is hoping sells for 200-300! and they sent it in to get graded!

correction: sells for 200-300!

[momen55]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

May have solved it here...this bat was on Heritage Auctions listed as a store model bat. Looks to be signed in the same pen as mine, and could have been part of a large lot of these done.

Thanks all for the opinions and looks like they were spot on. Too bad someone went through the trouble to make it look game used, but I'm glad it saved me $50 plus shipping to send it to PSA.

Without your opinions I would probably not have researched it further and I'd be out the cash. Thanks again...

there is a bench retail bat on ebay now that has been there for at least a year, that the person is hoping sells doe 200-300! and they sent it in to get graded!

[momen55]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

if it's a retail bat, where are the inch marks on the knob?

you can tell that the knob was sanded to remove the retail marks. it should read JB4.

[capnsteve2]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

I didn't take the time to post yesterday, sorry, but I will belatedly support the "store model" theory. After looking at gamers for 20 years, I, like Yanks and the rest, can spot this just by the font and the lower-grade wood.

Ken

Thanks for the information and I appreciate it. I would much rather know the truth about any item in my collection than believe a "story" that came with it.

And you guys saved me $50+ from psa so I really appreciate it!!

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

I didn't take the time to post yesterday, sorry, but I will belatedly support the "store model" theory. After looking at gamers for 20 years, I, like Yanks and the rest, can spot this just by the font and the lower-grade wood.

Ken

[capnsteve2]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

A reason for it being a STORE MODEL is that the stamping's are FOIL. A real game used the stamping's would be deep. see the bat in the link how the stamping's are alot deeper then yours. Also I don't own the bat on ebay just using it as example.


http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-BENCH...item3a6284e83c

Yanks - thanks for your posts. I appreciate it! You've been very helpful.

[capnsteve2]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

May have solved it here...this bat was on Heritage Auctions listed as a store model bat. Looks to be signed in the same pen as mine, and could have been part of a large lot of these done.

Thanks all for the opinions and looks like they were spot on. Too bad someone went through the trouble to make it look game used, but I'm glad it saved me $50 plus shipping to send it to PSA.

Without your opinions I would probably not have researched it further and I'd be out the cash. Thanks again...

[yanks12025]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

A reason for it being a STORE MODEL is that the stamping's are FOIL. A real game used the stamping's would be deep. see the bat in the link how the stamping's are alot deeper then yours. Also I don't own the bat on ebay just using it as example.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/JOHNNY-BENCH-Bicentennial-H-B-Bat-BIG-RED-MACHINE-HOF-/250760980540?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a6284e83c

[capnsteve2]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

ok I messed up on the trademark R. Still doesn't make it a game used bat, it's nothing but a store model that someone probably sanded off the JB5 on the knob.

That could very well be and I thank you for your opinion and for taking the time to post!

You were the only person to give a reason why you thought it was a store model bat. Everyone else just says "store model bat."

The reasons you gave though have been shown not to be all together true. In fact, so far, it seems like the people who have given information as to how it might be real have given me information which supports that case.

If anyone has any actual reasons why it's a store model bat I'd really appreciate hearing them as it would save me $50 plus shipping to send it to PSA. A simple "it's a store model bat" isn't really evidence (though I do appreciate your experience, as shown in the photos, it can be wrong).

Thanks again (and I don't intend to come off in any way other than grateful for your opinions).

[yanks12025]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

ok I messed up on the trademark R. Still doesn't make it a game used bat, it's nothing but a store model that someone probably sanded off the JB5 on the knob.

[capnsteve2]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

Just an FYI I have been able to photo-match Johnny Bench using a bat with the (R) after his name. (not the same model as mine, but one nonetheless). Whether it's a retail bat or not, this photo definitely shows him using a bat with the TM after his signature.

[GoTigers]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

But seriously, It is a retail bat. It looks nice though, congrats on the collection.

[GoTigers]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

if it's a retail bat, where are the inch marks on the knob?

Probably in a pile of sawdust on the floor..

[capnsteve2]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

Vince Malta books does show a Bench bat with the R circled after his name. it also shows he ordered and R43 in 1966, 1968, 1976, and 1979 Only the 68 was not flame treated. They range in length from34 inches to 35.5 inches. Did they ship 1976 bats without the bicentenial logo?

Hope that helps

Pete

Thanks for the reply! The bat is 34 inches in length exactly.

[prichmond]

Re: Johnny Bench Game Used Bat

Vince Malta books does show a Bench bat with the R circled after his name. it also shows he ordered and R43 in 1966, 1968, 1976, and 1979 Only the 68 was not flame treated. They range in length from34 inches to 35.5 inches. Did they ship 1976 bats without the bicentenial logo?

Hope that helps

Pete