Grey Flannel auctions

[Roady]

Re: Grey Flannel auctions

I received my rejection email in just minutes after telling her that I would think about it (providing my credit card number) and let her know.
I had that first impression thing but thought maybe I was just being thin skinned. I guess in this case my first impression was correct.
I appreciate everyone's input.

[helmets]

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Years ago I went to log into my GF account and couldn't. When I called them, I was told that I was banned for not paying for an item. When I asked the lady what item, I was told a jersey. I had never bid on any jerseys with them. At the time I didn't own any jerseys or have any interest in jerseys. I argued for a bit but was told I was banned. The only thing that I can think was that I had participated in some threads, on here, about some bogus football helmets that they had on an auction.

I have spent thousands with Heritage, Hunt, Mears, AMI, Mile High, and others. I have paid for any and every item that I have bid on. I haven't looked at a GF auction in years.

[Flamechicken]

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The problem with that is despite what most collectors think they are not always right about an item. One collector may be convinced an item is misdescribed yet the auction house may have just as compelling a case as to why the description is accurate. Who is to say one or the other is right?

I understand your point, but I was referring to irrefutable evidence (whatever type of evidence that may be.) I would never call out an auction house on a hunch or the mere possibility that their information was not correct.

Mike

[legaleagle92481]

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If I bid on an item and then, through my own research, I was able to determine that it wasn't what the auction house presented it as, I'd be on the phone to retract my bid or get my money back in a split second. If I deserve to get banned based on those circumstances, then I wouldn't want to deal with that company in the future.

Mike

The problem with that is despite what most collectors think they are not always right about an item. One collector may be convinced an item is misdescribed yet the auction house may have just as compelling a case as to why the description is accurate. Who is to say one or the other is right?

[legaleagle92481]

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My thoughts:

1. Don't bid on an item unless your 100 percent comfortable with that item. If you need better or additional pics or information ask the auction house or the seller. Before you bid also know the rules of the auction if the rules say all bids are final then if you fail to do your due diligence before bidding you should live with the consequences of that.

2. As someone who has sold alot of items on Ebay. I can tell you that often buyers don't pay for items they bid on. I can imagine it is the same for auction houses so to me there is nothing wrong with ensuring that the buyer is able to pay. If someone can't pay for an item how fair is that to the consignor who consigned the item months before and has been waiting for payment for that whole time? Or the auction house that incurred costs in storing, photographing, evaluating and describing the item.

[Flamechicken]

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We've all seen the effort Grey Flannel puts into vetting and authenticating items. Its extensive. So basically, this person bid on the item during the auction and then AFTER the auction decided they changed their mind about their own comfort. Sounds like an appropriate banning to me.

If I bid on an item and then, through my own research, I was able to determine that it wasn't what the auction house presented it as, I'd be on the phone to retract my bid or get my money back in a split second. If I deserve to get banned based on those circumstances, then I wouldn't want to deal with that company in the future.

Mike

[Birdbats]

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I, too, have been banned from bidding in GF auctions because I pointed out problems with several Cardinals jerseys in one of their auctions. I was berated on the phone by GF's owner and told I had no credibility. They eventually pulled six of the nine jerseys I questioned, but I still was banned. GF has zero integrity in my book. I don't miss bidding in their auctions.

[Roady]

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I have no problem using my credit card as verification.
I do have a problem giving you the number over the phone.

[nevrdiez34]

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I've been asked by most auction houses to provide my credit card information as a verification tool. I didn't have an issue with this. The items Grey Flannel sells tend to go from somewhat expensive to insanely expensive, so it makes sense to me why they would want some verification.

When I was new there and told them I had an interest in bidding on a relatively expensive item that was a "featured item," they asked that I demonstrate an ability to pay (e.g., send a redacted bank account). Again, I thought this was reasonable and complied. I didn't take it personally. They had no idea who I was.

If I was a consignor, I would be very happy that they are taking steps to reduce the likelihood of non-paying bidders.

I have found that no major auction house except Heritage accepts credit cards.

Regards,
Scott

Mears Auctions accept credit cards as well.

[esquiresports]

Re: Grey Flannel auctions

I've been asked by most auction houses to provide my credit card information as a verification tool. I didn't have an issue with this. The items Grey Flannel sells tend to go from somewhat expensive to insanely expensive, so it makes sense to me why they would want some verification.

When I was new there and told them I had an interest in bidding on a relatively expensive item that was a "featured item," they asked that I demonstrate an ability to pay (e.g., send a redacted bank account). Again, I thought this was reasonable and complied. I didn't take it personally. They had no idea who I was.

If I was a consignor, I would be very happy that they are taking steps to reduce the likelihood of non-paying bidders.

I have found that no major auction house except Heritage accepts credit cards.

Regards,
Scott

[hairyangryfella]

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I just read somebody's story:

I bid on (and was the highest bidder going into extended bidding) of a jersey GF had up for auction but in the meantime did some research and determined that it couldn't be real due to the placement of a logo. I contacted them about it, and was subsequently banned...

We've all seen the effort Grey Flannel puts into vetting and authenticating items. Its extensive. So basically, this person bid on the item during the auction and then AFTER the auction decided they changed their mind about their own comfort. Sounds like an appropriate banning to me.

Well if you'd like me to go into further detail instead of just criticizing me...

From memory, they took so long to accept my registration that it was only done in time to bid the day the auctions closed. I was wanting one of a few items but they mostly got out of my price range, so bid on something else that I assumed (with their inspection skills and the COA) would be legit. While the auction was on I started looking for a photomatch, and the one I found proved that there was something wrong, so I got in touch with them immediately. They didn't like that I was questioning them and before they really even fully responded they banned me (as I would have instead bid on the other item I wanted that was into extended bidding).

[dplettn]

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Isn't it a good thing that bidders be vetted and their funds verified? With eBay (and presumably "other" auction houses) how would you like to bid against a bidder who is bidding with monopoly money? Or, how would you like to go through the hassle of consigning an item then the winning bidder doesn't pay.

I just read somebody's story:

I bid on (and was the highest bidder going into extended bidding) of a jersey GF had up for auction but in the meantime did some research and determined that it couldn't be real due to the placement of a logo. I contacted them about it, and was subsequently banned...

We've all seen the effort Grey Flannel puts into vetting and authenticating items. Its extensive. So basically, this person bid on the item during the auction and then AFTER the auction decided they changed their mind about their own comfort. Sounds like an appropriate banning to me.

An auction house should be vetting items as Grey Flannel is. And an auction house should be vetting bidders to make sure only bidders who are standing behind their bids are involved. Its not something to complain about its something hat upholds the integrity of the auction process. Most things I see on eBay are crap and and most auctions I see run on eBay are manipulated. Grey Flannel should be as opposite eBay as possible.

[Roady]

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As bad as it sounds I am actually feeling much better about the whole situation.

[bruno89]

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They never accepted my registration either saying at one time if I wanted to bid on a item I would need to send a check and only after they would cash it they would place my bid ...if i didn't got the item they said they would refund me the money but of course I never sent anything...

Just wanted to leave my story here about them and since its their auction house they can run however they want to run it so in any way I'm bashing them...just leaving my story also....

[Roady]

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Ouch. Maybe I am not missing much then.