Grey flannel auctions! What is up?!

[slats7]

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I see they're selling another phony Dallas Cowboy jersey from the early 1960s.

[Nnunnari]

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Well said by Sportscentury.

You can't find a "story" for every game worn/used item out there. It is in GF's best interest to photo match as many items as possible, which I am sure they make an effort to do. At the same time, is it worth paying someone a salary to spend hours trying to photo match a jersey which will only increase it's value x%? Their money is better spent having that employee do something else with their time, like trying to find more consignors or spending time trying to photo match the high end items. It just doesn't make sense, from a business stand point, to pay someone to spend hours trying to photo match common items.

[G1X]

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. . . It should also be noted that numerous real/authentic items simply can't be photomatched due to obvious factors such as the number and quality of photographs/images available. Vintage collectors know this reality all too well, but it is also the case that many real modern items simply can't be photomatched. The fact that an item has not been photomatched does not by itself mean that it is inauthentic. I realize the OP is new to collecting, so I hope these points will prove useful to him as he gains experience and makes collecting decisions.

+1

Two excellent posts in this thread by Sportscentury.

Mark Hayne
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[nevrdiez34]

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I agree. It has appeared to me that Grey Flannel values photomatching as an authentication tool more than most auction houses. It should also be noted that numerous real/authentic items simply can't be photomatched due to obvious factors such as the number and quality of photographs/images available. Vintage collectors know this reality all too well, but it is also the case that many real modern items simply can't be photomatched. The fact that an item has not been photomatched does not by itself mean that it is inauthentic. I realize the OP is new to collecting, so I hope these points will prove useful to him as he gains experience and makes collecting decisions.

+1

[sportscentury]

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I think we're being a bit judgmental against grey flannel. They sell over 1100 items and don't forget make a very nice catalog and must promote the auction. If they took out hours to photo match every item they would have half the inventory and as collectors be upset because of lack of items to buy. Plus they do sell items photo matched I bought a darren McFadden jersey all beat up and still included a photo match with my purchase. And to name a few currently listed with photo matches is a Shawn Merriman uniform and Curtis grandersons first ever used yankee jersey.
We do spend a lot on this hobby believe me I know but part of the thrill of buying an item is to do the research and find that photo match

I agree. It has appeared to me that Grey Flannel values photomatching as an authentication tool more than most auction houses. It should also be noted that numerous real/authentic items simply can't be photomatched due to obvious factors such as the number and quality of photographs/images available. Vintage collectors know this reality all too well, but it is also the case that many real modern items simply can't be photomatched. The fact that an item has not been photomatched does not by itself mean that it is inauthentic. I realize the OP is new to collecting, so I hope these points will prove useful to him as he gains experience and makes collecting decisions.

[ctguy212003]

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I think we're being a bit judgmental against grey flannel. They sell over 1100 items and don't forget make a very nice catalog and must promote the auction. If they took out hours to photo match every item they would have half the inventory and as collectors be upset because of lack of items to buy. Plus they do sell items photo matched I bought a darren McFadden jersey all beat up and still included a photo match with my purchase. And to name a few currently listed with photo matches is a Shawn Merriman uniform and Curtis grandersons first ever used yankee jersey.
We do spend a lot on this hobby believe me I know but part of the thrill of buying an item is to do the research and find that photo match

[sportscentury]

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I realize this won't make me popular, but I can only say that I've picked up several Hall-of-Fame quality basketball items from Grey Flannel over the years. I guess the language they use in their auction lots doesn't bother me because I've never been one to rely on someone else's opinion about the authenticity of an item in the first place. If you choose to rely on another's opinion as the basis of your collecting, then you are taking your chances, regardless of the auction and what language is used.

[Murph4Prez]

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They have my grail listed in their upcoming auction... may need to investigate before bidding.

[Samets]

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Never seen that! Thanks!

[trsent]

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My question is how does GFA know who is behind a post on GUU? I mean as long as a poster doesn't have their name in their signature and such... am I missing something?

Everyone who is logged in can be looked up in the link above marked Hobby Network on the top of each page. You click on this link and look up a user id and their name shows up:

[Wrigley2010]

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Good thing you weren't planning on bidding because you are probably banned from bidding in their auctions now after your post. Someone there monitors the board, not sure how often, but many of us here have found that out after posting something that GFC did not like you are not welcome to bid in their auctions anymore. t.

My question is how does GFA know who is behind a post on GUU? I mean as long as a poster doesn't have their name in their signature and such... am I missing something?

[greg678]

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Is that Dewey as in Dwight Evans? He is my favorite player.
Oh well I can't bid. I will only buy from teams or players selling their collections that I or they photo-match. Am I angry- no. Just disappointed, especially with all the money that is flying around.

[greg678]

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Onlyalbert thanks for reaching out. I do not get how they can get away with this. Are the auction houses becoming the "sell with us, we won't ask any questions and cover for you" places?
Put it this way I have a Willie Mays jersey and I drop it off at Grey Flannel with no explanation of where I got it and Grey Flannel goes, hey great we do not want to know anything about the item!
Who is bidding on this? Is this OK with them?
Like to ask him, wouldn't you?

[Dewey2007]

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Good thing you weren't planning on bidding because you are probably banned from bidding in their auctions now after your post. Someone there monitors the board, not sure how often, but many of us here have found that out after posting something that GFC did not like you are not welcome to bid in their auctions anymore.

I agree with you though that it is frustrating that many auction houses, not just GFC, fail to do simple research on items consigned to them. Good thing a site like this exists so other collectors can help catch some of these "oversights" and have been quite successful in getting items pulled or at least making folks aware of a questionable item if an auction house does nothing about it.

I am new to collecting and Bought my first couple jerseys and put a lot of money and time into them. I researched tagging ect. and photo-matched items before I bought.
I was Excited about Grey Flannel Auction and thought that they were really solid from their rep, but boy was I wrong.
Their statement " The jersey was properly tagged (5 minutes work), was presented to us as game-used (0 minutes work) and in our opinion shows (2 minutes work?) appropriate use." Is everywhere!
I started to do work on some jerseys and was like "can't they photo-match and explain where the jersey came from and why do I have to all the work?
They......I hate to say this, but enjoy it too,.......Suck!
I just don't understand people who have a Greg Maddux jersey and just sell it and all they say "it was game used and thats the story" and walk away! Are you kidding me!!!
Grey Flannel........I ain't bidding.
Thanks
Greg

[greg678]

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I know it it going that way of the, this guy with a HOF jersey walked mailed this in and said "it is real sell it" is stupid!
The stories behind the items are gone. Weird and sad.
I am sick if the clubhouse guy story also. My friend works for Apple and I don't say " Wow, where did you get those dozen iphones from?"
You don't just walk put of work with your employer' s stuff.
Thanks for posting.