Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

[Phil316]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

I should say the most recent I could find. This is from a April 7th

[Phil316]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

This is the most recent article including Manning's documents regarding the accusations. He denies everything obviously.

http://t.radaronline.com/entry/view/id/101497?utm_referrer=https:%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F

[gingi79]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

I too was wondering if anything came of this. It was all kinds of hot news Super Bowl week here in NY and on the worldwide leader and then Peyton loses and *Poof the coverage disappears.

Our hobby gets enough warranted and valid scrutiny from the JO related issues, Operation Bullpen, hell a known dealer was arrested at the National. If Steiner had something to do with it, we should know. If they were drug though the mud wrongly by a bitter ex-employee, we should know. If Eli did or didn't do this on purpose with or without Giants equipment managers assistance, we should know.

Someone, anyone, poke the bear until he becomes a dead horse.

[VerifiedAutographsCom]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Any new info here?

[sportsnbikes]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Yes absolutely aware and we appreciate members of the forum being so engaged in the discussion. Like I said earlier not sure who the e-mails were sent to or why no response was given and I'd be happy to help anytime just e-mail me direct.

I bet I can find who I sent mine to.

[BCowan]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Thanks fore responding on the LOA issue. For myself, foremost I wanted to be sure someone was aware and really only wanted an acknowledgment. When one isn't give, then it looks fishy.

Thank you again for responding. Hopefully someone is held accountable.

Yes absolutely aware and we appreciate members of the forum being so engaged in the discussion. Like I said earlier not sure who the e-mails were sent to or why no response was given and I'd be happy to help anytime just e-mail me direct.

[BCowan]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Not sure why Brooks is evading my question about Brandon, but it's probably safe to say he's not coming here to address our concerns. Give your book the title "You gotta have balls" but don't have any to come here to speak to us. Even if the allegations turn out false, who would want to support a company led by someone with such character?

I'm not evading anything, I just don't want to comment on every response this thread generates. As I've said previously I don't like to speculate or say things for no reason. If I comment just to comment I'm not lending anything of any purpose or insight to the discussion and see no purpose in doing that. I prefer that any of my involvement here be consistent with the purpose of the forum which I believe is for collectors to discuss and educate.

If you would like to engage Brandon in a conversation feel free to reach out to him, he is extremely accessible and always willing to help our customers.

[pungent]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Not sure why Brooks is evading my question about Brandon, but it's probably safe to say he's not coming here to address our concerns. Give your book the title "You gotta have balls" but don't have any to come here to speak to us. Even if the allegations turn out false, who would want to support a company led by someone with such character?

[sportsnbikes]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Some forum members have asked about the signed LOA's that have been on ebay, on that matter I can say yes Steiner Sports is aware of them and we have made several attempts to have them removed. As you can see we have had no success there. I personally do not know how they got there and we are looking into. To say anything more would be speculation and that I won't do as it serves no purpose. For any members who would like to discuss that with me feel free to e-mail me at bcowan@steinersports.com or call me at 914-307-1004. I sincerely apologize for those of you who have sent e-mails to Steiner Sports and gotten no response. I am always available to discuss any questions or concerns you may have on this or anything for that matter.

I'm not going to get much more into detail on that issue though as it does not relate to this thread. As I've mentioned I don't want to ever speculate or say anything without having facts to support.

Thanks fore responding on the LOA issue. For myself, foremost I wanted to be sure someone was aware and really only wanted an acknowledgment. When one isn't give, then it looks fishy.

Thank you again for responding. Hopefully someone is held accountable.

[Roady]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

I don't want to be the scapegoat for getting this thread locked so I am bowing out of it.
I will not post in it again.

Didn't mean to start a pissing match but I just asked a question.

[Roady]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Roady I guess in this particular instance for you personally they can not help. For others on the forum perhaps my "facts" as you refer to them and postings lend some clarity simply because I am a forum member who has an area of expertise on the topic being discussed. Are we now discrediting anyone who posts unless they are doing so as an official spokesperson? What does that do to all the other posts on this thread? I don't believe any of the statements of Steiner Sports reselling Eli Manning items that were returned were made as official statements, yet they continue to be falsely made.

I'm participating in this discussion the same as you and all others. At this point though I'm beginning to become confused by what we're even discussing.

Your first post in this thread.........
"Hi all have been reading all the posts and wanted to lend some clarity to some of the comments. First and foremost there is absolutely no truth or evidence to support any claim that Steiner Sports accepted returns on questionable Eli Manning game used items and then resold those items. In all of our years with Eli we have never had an item questioned until the recent story and civil suit happened. To date we have not received any game used Eli Manning items returned, let alone a subsequent resale of them. Regarding the former employee who made comments about everyone knowing items were not authentic I can't say what would prompt such a comment because as a Steiner employee for 9 years and the Director of Retail Sales I can tell you I have never been part of or heard any such comments or conversations. The first time anyone here heard such things was in the NY Post. It is very easy to make comments as an anonymous "source" and that seems to be what has happened here. I really can't get into many details as this is an ongoing civil case and it wouldn't be appropriate to comment much further but those particular statements that are making the rounds needed to be cleared up and responded to. "

Maybe I am confused. Who knows.
The above from you reads like you are stating it as fact not opinion.
Please carry on and I will not ask you any more questions.

[BCowan]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

First off I think its great that you are posting here as in the very least to be a voice of reason.

And your points are valid and that's why people shouldn't jump to conclusions as it isn't fair to the reputation of this company until all the facts are put out there.

As I've previously posted, "disturbing if it can be backed up with facts" and so far I've seen nobody back up with facts the accusation that a "fake" or incorrect item was returned and relisted for sale in the exact way it was first sold.

Thank you AllStars, appreciate that.

[BCowan]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

If are not an official spokesperson for Steiner then how can your "facts" or your postings help?
Just asking.

Roady I guess in this particular instance for you personally they can not help. For others on the forum perhaps my "facts" as you refer to them and postings lend some clarity simply because I am a forum member who has an area of expertise on the topic being discussed. Are we now discrediting anyone who posts unless they are doing so as an official spokesperson? What does that do to all the other posts on this thread? I don't believe any of the statements of Steiner Sports reselling Eli Manning items that were returned were made as official statements, yet they continue to be falsely made.

I'm participating in this discussion the same as you and all others. At this point though I'm beginning to become confused by what we're even discussing.

[Roady]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Roady nowhere in any of my posts have I said anything even remotely close to "we should not put any faith in your post". I actually thought my posts were the complete opposite of that as I am posting as someone who can speak with actual facts on this particular thread.

If are not an official spokesperson for Steiner then how can your "facts" or your postings help?
Just asking.

[allstarsplus]

Re: Steiner weighs in on Eli Manning controversy

Some forum members have commented that Steiner Sports has accepted returns of Eli Manning Game Used items and resold those items, these are statements being made with absolutely no facts and are based simply off of what they've read in the paper. My posts on this issue are as a forum member who knows these statements to be completely baseless and inaccurate, that's why I commented on them.

First off I think its great that you are posting here as in the very least to be a voice of reason.

And your points are valid and that's why people shouldn't jump to conclusions as it isn't fair to the reputation of this company until all the facts are put out there.

As I've previously posted, "disturbing if it can be backed up with facts" and so far I've seen nobody back up with facts the accusation that a "fake" or incorrect item was returned and relisted for sale in the exact way it was first sold.