Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

[W_EISENHUTH]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

Can anyone here produce a photo of Jeter swinging another model bat?[/quote]

Not a photo but the next best thing?:

http://www.goldinauctions.com/1996_Derek_Jeter_Rawlings_Game_Used_225S_Model_Bat-LOT11409.aspx

[3arod13]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

Most of this is individual opinion and not fact, so it really doesn't change the fact that Derek Jeter is a HOFer.

[3arod13]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

Tony, I thought I did say that Jeter got the publicity he did because he played in New York and was in a number of big games. Sure other players in Kansas City, etc. didn't get that chance, but when Jeter did he made the most of it. And when you look at his contributions its obvious the Yankees would not have been in some of those games without Jeter's contribution to the team.Of course baseball is a team sport. If the Yankees didn't have the other great players on teams they had in the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's they wouldn't have gone to the World Series if all they had in those years was a Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, or a Mickey Mantle and the rest were a bunch of nobodies. Does that diminish them as players? I don't see the point. When someone like Tom Seaver, who was never a Yankee and has no ties to Jeter and New York, says Jeter should be elected to the HOF unanimously I think that proves the point. As someone who has seen people take great joy in ripping ARod and seem to absolutely hate him I would have thought you would be among the last to down grade a player. I don't think anyone is saying Jeter is the greatest player in the history of baseball. I do think people are saying that Jeter is a solid Hall of Fame player who played the game the right way and contributed greatly to his team's success.

Again, you're missing my point. I'm not downgrading Jeter as a player. He has played great and done great things with the Yankees. I think Jeter is a good player and based on his performance and record with the Yankees, he is a HOFer. But if Jeter started and finished his career in markets like Kansas City, Cleveland, etc., I don't think he would have received the attention that he has in New york; or won 5 world series, which has made
so many love the guy. Jeter had carried himself well, with maturity and professionalism, and I have a lot of respect for him for that.

And as far as Arod goes, he deserves every bit of negativity he has received. Everything from his positive PED use in 2003; then turns around and continues to do it again; to his off the field crap, it's very frustrating for his fans, like me. I have no problem agreeing with most about Arod.

But I still can't wait for him to return next year!!

[joelsabi]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

I suppose they didn't consider doing this when Ripken retired since he had tinkered with other models & brands over his career:

http://m.yankees.mlb.com/news/articl...of-derek-jeter

Thanks for the post. Louisville Slugger values loyalty like many companys and it is a great tribute to Jeter. How many players have swung the same brand of bat and same model for over 20 years? Maybe there are some ballplayer who did the same prior to the outbreak of other bat companies. That would be some interesting research at photo sites I might attempt if I have time.


Can anyone here produce a photo of Jeter swinging another model bat?

[nevrdiez34]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

When someone like Tom Seaver, who was never a Yankee and has no ties to Jeter and New York, says Jeter should be elected to the HOF unanimously I think that proves the point.

No offense, but Tom Seaver played 12 years on the Mets, pretty strong NY ties if you ask me. I respect Jeter like most, but I agree with many that he is generally over-loved. He was a very good player and a Hall of Famer without a doubt, but he isn't in the top 50 players of all-time and he's been treated like a top 10 player of all-time since the early 2000s. If you ask me he'd be lucky to be a top 10 Yankee of all time.

[cjclong]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

Tony, I thought I did say that Jeter got the publicity he did because he played in New York and was in a number of big games. Sure other players in Kansas City, etc. didn't get that chance, but when Jeter did he made the most of it. And when you look at his contributions its obvious the Yankees would not have been in some of those games without Jeter's contribution to the team.Of course baseball is a team sport. If the Yankees didn't have the other great players on teams they had in the 20's, 30's, 40's, 50's, 60's they wouldn't have gone to the World Series if all they had in those years was a Babe Ruth, Joe DiMaggio, or a Mickey Mantle and the rest were a bunch of nobodies. Does that diminish them as players? I don't see the point. When someone like Tom Seaver, who was never a Yankee and has no ties to Jeter and New York, says Jeter should be elected to the HOF unanimously I think that proves the point. As someone who has seen people take great joy in ripping ARod and seem to absolutely hate him I would have thought you would be among the last to down grade a player. I don't think anyone is saying Jeter is the greatest player in the history of baseball. I do think people are saying that Jeter is a solid Hall of Fame player who played the game the right way and contributed greatly to his team's success.

[3arod13]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

I think people are taking this to personal. I don't think anyone finds fault with Jeter as a player. But you honestly can't say that Jeter would be the Jeter he is today, if he played his entire career in markets like Cleveland, Kansas City, etc. Jeter wouldn’t have won all those world series on those teams. Yankees have always put good players on those teams, giving those teams a better chance to win those world series. Team sport, not an individual sport, and the Yankees put good teams together. Remember, Jeter was voted the most overrated player by MLB players. And I think the reason is because he was being given so much credit for the Yankees success, which wasn’t the case.

[cjclong]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

The people who say if Jeter had played for Kansas City, Cleveland, Houston, etc have a point. Its obvious that the fact that he played for the Yankees gave him publicity that other players don't get. He was in more playoffs, world series and big games than most other players. The other side of the coin is he came through in big games. He played well under pressure, unlike some big name and possibly more skilled players. He hit well in the clutch. I don't pretend to be an expert in grading fielders, but you don't go to the playoffs year after year and win world series with an inferior shortstop. There are the intangibles that he played the game the right way, and made the players around him better. You don't hear other players bad mouthing him because they respect the way he played. There always seem to be some people who live to find fault with everything and aren't happy unless they are tearing someone down but the players and most true baseball fans respect the way he played.

[helf35]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

My personal opinion it is a fitting honor due to the fact that he only used one bat his entirer career for a Louisville Slugger stand point. The amount of people that have jumped ship to Chandler, Sam Bat, Murruci and some of these other labels has caused Louisville Slugger to lose several big name players in recent years.

[3arod13]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

Enough of the Jeter bashing.

I don't see much of what everyone is saying as "Jeter bashing." I think many of us have valid points, and those points are just our opinions. Nobody is saying Jeter isn't a good player; carried himself well; mature; professional, good role model, etc. But I do agree with most. If Jeter started and ended his career in Cleveland, Kansas City, etc., do you honestly believe based on his skills and abilities alone, he would be what he is today? I honestly don't think so.

[beachpetrol]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

I know I said I would let the disillusioned worship their overrated god.
Pot shots are hard to not respond to though.
I will let them now. I bow out. Go ahead, make innuendos about me or anyone who doesn't agree. Make fun. Act snooty. The floor is yours.

Worship away you smarter than everyone else Jeterites. Just know there are some who will never convert to your religion.

The religion we speak of is baseball, and to quote Kramer, you are an anti-baseballite. I hate the Yankees as much as the next guy, but Jeter deserves all the recognition he is getting.

[Nnunnari]

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[Roady]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

I know I said I would let the disillusioned worship their overrated god.
Pot shots are hard to not respond to though.
I will let them now. I bow out. Go ahead, make innuendos about me or anyone who doesn't agree. Make fun. Act snooty. The floor is yours.

Worship away you smarter than everyone else Jeterites. Just know there are some who will never convert to your religion.

[Roady]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

Just laugh at anyone who thinks jeter is overrated, they don't know or understand baseball. Poor people.
Here's the game winning bat.

Laugh away then.
Jeter is overrated and always has been.

[Nnunnari]

Re: Louisville Slugger Retiring the P72 Model in Honor of Jeter

Just laugh at anyone who thinks jeter is overrated, they don't know or understand baseball. Poor people.
Here's the game winning bat.