Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

[3arod13]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Well, I'm leaving for Baltimore to see the Yankees play the O's. I hope Arod hits HR #500 while I'm there for the 3 game series (he should).

Will check back later.

Regards, Tony

[3arod13]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Tony,
For what it's worth, I had an incident with Zane a few years ago over an issue which I found to be very troubling, ethically speaking. I think I'm pretty reasonable and easy to deal with, but his reaction was so over the top and unnecessary that I decided that from that point forward I would never do business with him again. He may know bats, but guys like that IMO aren't worth messing around with.

Thanks for your comments.

I'm pretty easy to deal with also. I'm not out to hurt anyone or discredit them. Heck, I've dealt with many rude people when selling, but I always take the high oad.

This was an unfortunate incident and his attack on me was unwarranted. And it was done through GUU.

But what really bothers me now, is how GUU has handled this matter. I provided them proof with Zane's emailS (which GUU always states you must back up your accusation/comment with proof) and still, no response and it just seemed to be ingorned after removing my comments.

I'm not looking for much here. Just fairness to all!

Regards, Tony

[skipcareyisfat]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Tony,
For what it's worth, I had an incident with Zane a few years ago over an issue which I found to be very troubling, ethically speaking. I think I'm pretty reasonable and easy to deal with, but his reaction was so over the top and unnecessary that I decided that from that point forward I would never do business with him again. He may know bats, but guys like that IMO aren't worth messing around with.

[3arod13]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

In addition, the main purpose of my post about Zane Burns was because he saw my question to the forum on his Mattingly Bat and then emailed me with a threat with his laywer for posting my question on GUU.

If he would have threatened me via ebay for questioning his bat, I wouldn't have posted anything about the matter on GUU. It was only because he saw my question on GUU that he emailed and threatened me.

I don't know him and never dealth with him, so it's not personal. He crossed a line within GUU and I believe everyone in this forum has the right to now.

Regards, Tony

[3arod13]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

It appears that Zane Burns 'legal' scare tactic spooked the folks at Game Used Universe. I guarantee you that Burns gave it the ol lawyer tactic and it worked......this time.

My opinion of Burns has COMPLETELY done a 180 over the deal alone.

This industry is supposed to police itself so I find it to be very unfortunate that GAME USED UNIVERSE is selectively chosing what dealers can be policed.

I realize there are groups...clicks...and those who look out for and take care of each other. What I have a problem is, Zane Burns ignored my emails on ebay when I asked about the Mattingly bat possibly being a BP bat (obvious tapes lines). It wasnt until I posted the question on this forum (It was only a question) that Zane Burns emails me with threats of a laywer and posting comments on other websites about this bat. Obviously, he is a member of GUU or at least reads posts to see what people are saying about his bats. In no way did I say anything against him or tell anyone not to deal with him on GUU.

I then make a post on this forum about his actions and threats against me. GUU removes my posted based on no facts to back it up. I themn email Chris all of Zanes emails and Chis emails me back stating based on the emails I forwarded to him from Zane, my comments seem to be factual. He said he needed to discuss with this group at GUU and would get back to me that night. It's been more than 5 days.

I thought this forum was to help protect the integrity of this hobby. I don't care if Zane Burns is Gods gift to this hobby. His conduct was inappropriate....and his threats were unwarranted.

Are we really here to protect the integrity of the hobby, or only protect others we like or do business with.

I have enjoyed being a part of this forum, however, it now makes me wonder its real purpose.

Regards, Tony

[productionline]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

It appears that Zane Burns 'legal' scare tactic spooked the folks at Game Used Universe. I guarantee you that Burns gave it the ol lawyer tactic and it worked......this time.

My opinion of Burns has COMPLETELY done a 180 over the deal alone.

This industry is supposed to police itself so I find it to be very unfortunate that GAME USED UNIVERSE is selectively chosing what dealers can be policed.

[3arod13]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Chris,

You never got back to me about pulling my comments about Zane on the Mattingly bat.

After I provided you all email proof, your last email stated you would get back to me on the status. It's been a few days.

Tony

Cris, I would hope that you aren't blowing me off on this matter. I posted what was factual information about Zane and his threat to me about a question I asked in this forum. You pulled my comments. I then provided you proof (all of his emails to me). You then email me stating based on the emails I sent you, the information appeared to be and you would have to discuss with your group. It's been days and not response.

My main issue with this is, I posted a question in this forum. Never main one negative comments or accusation against Zane. He saw my post on GUU, then base only on my question, sent me a threatening email.

I've enjoyed this website and all of its members. However, Zane cross a line and I feel since I provided you proof of my comments, they should be resinstated.

Standing by for your response.

Regards, Tony

[3arod13]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Chris,

You never got back to me about pulling my comments about Zane on the Mattingly bat.

After I provided you all email proof, your last email stated you would get back to me on the status. It's been a few days.

Tony

[camarokids]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

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check out this picture of Q.McCracken using a taped bat in a game ......

I do think its a spring training game though , by looking at the dugout. Plus he is wearing home whites .....

[3arod13]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Thanks to everyone's comments and the existence of this forum, the seller somewhat changed the description to indicate information of a BP bat, but still strongly stresses game used.

I agree with most that a BP bat is a BP bat. I don't see players using bats as BP bats, then using them in games. I believe they try a bat out in practice, and if they don't like it, they tape it up and use it as a BP bat.

Again, thanks to you all and this forum for keeping the hobby safe!

[metsbats]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Kellsox,

My bad. Thank you for pointing that out. I just saw the "revised" tag on the listing.


Nnunnari,

Completely agree with you on your last point.

-David

[Nnunnari]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Unless someone actually watched Mattingly use this bat in a game then tape it for bp or fungos nobody has any idea where this bat came from. Who's to say it wasn't used in bp (hence the ink transfers and seam marks) then it was taped after the grain started to separate? I guess it doesn't really matter, with an asking price like that he'll be holding onto the bat for a long time.

[kellsox]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

That is not the fact. The listing does mention that the bat was taped for BP after game use. If you look carefully on the barrel there are blue ball marks, deadwood and some lace marks.

David

That information was not revealed by the seller in the original listing. It was added along with thanking people for "all of the interest".
Kelly

[metsbats]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

This bat is obviously a BP bat and looking at the distinct difference in coloring from the taped and untaped area of the barrel, the tape was probably on there for some time. The fact that the seller doesn't even mention this in the listing is a shame, especially because many people consider Zane a trust worthy seller. The fact that it's not mentioned and he's asking for $2,500 for this bat is absolutely ridiculous. Do you think he would mention the possibility of it being a bp bat to a potential buyer, or just let someone who is new to our hobby purchase this bat only to find out years later that he purchased a bp bat? Even if the bat shows perfect game characteristics, the moment tape is placed on the barrel, the value decreases. A so called "reputable" dealer would not leave this bit of info out of the description.

That is not the fact. The listing does mention that the bat was taped for BP after game use. If you look carefully on the barrel there are blue ball marks, deadwood and some lace marks.

David

[YankeeChowda]

Re: Don Mattingly...Game Used or Batting Practice Bat?

Crack kills?