Suggestion for GUU

[metsbats]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

I think it's pretty obvious that we will all not agree on things here. Let's just let the fantastic five clean things up and get on with our lives.

If you really want to impress me, give the old knowledgeable members a reason to return. Hell, even the creator doesn't frequent his creation anymore. What does that tell you?

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Thank you for all your suggestions. We really appreciate your concerns on how to futher improve the forum member experience. Your Moderation commitee and the Forum sponsors (Chris Cavalier and Mike Specht) are discussing things and will announce decisions on suggestions shortly.

Peace,

[karamaxjoe]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

I think it's pretty obvious that we will all not agree on things here. Let's just let the fantastic five clean things up and get on with our lives.

If you really want to impress me, give the old knowledgeable members a reason to return. Hell, even the creator doesn't frequent his creation anymore. What does that tell you?

[dcrules01]

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I personally am not worried about why someone is banned and the story behind it. I belong to a few message boards and have never seen a banned list and I am a moderator of one of them. If someone gets banned there is a reason for it but to create a thread so members can see why that member was banned has nothing to do for what this board is about. It goes along with the edit feature and the reason there is not one. Members are accountable for there actions and as Michael said that is what the preview button is for before you post. But Chris does have a nice point in the buy sell thread as far as updating prices and items that are no longer available.

[xpress34]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

The inabilty to edit keeps us accountable for what we write.

Michael -

I agree with being accountable for what we write, BUT... the EDIT Feature would be well served in he Collector to Collector Forum so you could edit prices, what had sold, what is still available,etc without having to bump your CtoC thread everytime you sell something or what to change a price, etc.

All the best -

Chris

[CollectGU]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

Thank you. The Banned List would be set up so that only moderators and admins could reply to it. All it would include is a list of banned members, sort of like the following:

TDKID banned for being the reincarnation of tjm5711.
Hyl banned for spamming the boards.

The information contained is all very factual and would preempt members from posting "Why did he get banned?" threads. The information would all be contained in one thread where only mods could post.

So the usefulness of the list would be to notify members of why someone was banned in order to avoid the why were they banned threads? LOL..And so now the hottest thread going on the forum is the thread discussing the validity of a banned list. Does anyone else see the comedy here? Stop the insanity!

Dave

[frikativ54]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

Whether the new forum moderators endorse the suggestion is irrelevent to the merit of Frik's suggestion. The suggestion is good and stands on its own. To oppose it so strongly is odd and instills suspicion in some of us who have been here from the beginning watching the site's unfortunate evolution.

Thank you. The Banned List would be set up so that only moderators and admins could reply to it. All it would include is a list of banned members, sort of like the following:

TDKID banned for being the reincarnation of tjm5711.
Hyl banned for spamming the boards.

The information contained is all very factual and would preempt members from posting "Why did he get banned?" threads. The information would all be contained in one thread where only mods could post.

Frik is not liked by several GUU members, but when she makes a legitimate suggestion, it is important that we have an intellectual rather than emotional response to it.

Life is not a popularity contest. Given some of the personalities on this board, I am hardly saddened to not be liked by some of the characters on here. Especially given the conservative nature of many on the GUU.

But I would second the suggestion to not oppose this idea just because I am the one who suggested it. It's a good suggestion and works well on other boards I've been a part of. It ought to be implemented here.

[Rossi46]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

I assume that you meant to say, "They're no longer going to be a part of the forum..."

This statement is naive at best. Have you been following GUU at all? Folks who have been banned come back again and again with new fraudulent userids. So, your assertion is false. Also, who said anything about "talking about them?" The proposal is to have a published list of banned users. Period. End. No discussion. It would be a closed/locked forum that is accessible only to Forum Moderators. I suggest more reading and thinking and less writing. Whether the new forum moderators endorse the suggestion is irrelevent to the merit of Frik's suggestion. The suggestion is good and stands on its own. To oppose it so strongly is odd and instills suspicion in some of us who have been here from the beginning watching the site's unfortunate evolution. Frik is not liked by several GUU members, but when she makes a legitimate suggestion, it is important that we have an intellectual rather than emotional response to it.

I'm not the only one who thinks it's a bad idea. Looks like plenty of other long time members feel the same way.

[MichaelofSF]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

I can understand the desire that many forum members have for an edit feature. However, everyone already has an ability to edit posts before publishing. This feature is called the preview post button. Typos suck as at some time almost everybody encounters one, I get it. The forum might be a better place if we all took advantage of this feature. The preview post gives one a chance to think about if one really want to post what they have written... time to think before "speaking."

The inabilty to edit keeps us accountable for what we write.

[sportscentury]

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Sportscentury....The last part of your post makes absolutely no sense whatsoever...It's a matter of personal opinion whether or not I think it's a good idea. If someone is already banned, who cares what the reason is. They did something against forum rules and that's it. There no longer going to be a part of the forum so what good comes out of it talking about them. Just because this is my opinion and I'm a newer member makes me a crook if your eyes? Sorry but I don't see the correlation. I've had a number of flawless transactions with senior members on here. Maybe you should think before you make negative accusations that you have no right making.

I assume that you meant to say, "They're no longer going to be a part of the forum..."

This statement is naive at best. Have you been following GUU at all? Folks who have been banned come back again and again with new fraudulent userids. So, your assertion is false. Also, who said anything about "talking about them?" The proposal is to have a published list of banned users. Period. End. No discussion. It would be a closed/locked forum that is accessible only to Forum Moderators. I suggest more reading and thinking and less writing. Whether the new forum moderators endorse the suggestion is irrelevent to the merit of Frik's suggestion. The suggestion is good and stands on its own. To oppose it so strongly is odd and instills suspicion in some of us who have been here from the beginning watching the site's unfortunate evolution. Frik is not liked by several GUU members, but when she makes a legitimate suggestion, it is important that we have an intellectual rather than emotional response to it.

[metsbats]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

Warren,

My thoughts on this one is that the game used memorabilia discussion lately contains more than its share of off topic posts. If we were to move all of these into a discussion board of their own, we can leave the GU memorabilia section for game used memorabilia only. This might be a plus for the purists, as they do not have to sift through all of the side topics.

I also think that when it comes down to a democratic vote, most people here seem to prefer the 'off topic' section.

Nick

I've been looking at other forums and belong to a couple that do have an OT section where folks can post about weather, current events (in fact one forum has a "current events" section),etc.

The best thing is folks can discuss OT subject matter in it's own section which will not clutter up the other game used sections.

Another thing to consider is alot folks have formed friendships here and the fact that they want an OT section and not just talk game used can be taken as a positive sign of these bonds which have formed.

[dcrules01]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

I will agree with chakes. I did not participate in any of the threads were a lot of the problems arose that was my option.An off topic section would not hurt. It comes down to varying opinions in everyday events that are not related to Game Used items. If you did not wanna participate in that section that would be your option. Change is good it helps everyone grow. For example Haiti earthquake, the recent snowstorms, mlb off season transactions. It never hurts to try something new. It would eliminate any clutter in the game used section. On another board we have that as we also have each sport broken down in there own sections mlb,NFL,NHL and NBA...

[soxbats]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

An OT section would ruin this forum forever. There is already an OT section...every other message board and forum on the internet.
I think some of you are cool dudes with a lot of knowledge. I could care less about your religious views, your bank account, your car, your job, what dog breed you think is best, your pick for the Oscar, your favorite song, Mac or Windows, boxers or briefs, a good recipe for a fried banana sandwich, etc.

Is the purpose of this forum to gain the most readership or to share the knowledge of game used sports memorabilia?

Long time member here, avid reader, infrequent poster and totally discouraged and frustrated by the devolution of what was once a fabulous and valuable site. I TOTALLY AGREE with the above comment. If you don't want to discuss GU, do me and a number of silent or almost silent fans of what this site was and GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

There was a time when a number of people with tremendous knowledge and understanding of the game used industry posted on this site. Go back and look at the old site and some of the wonderful and informative posts that were posted. In depth discussions of labeling and tagging. I have been collecting GU for 25 years and I learned more in the last 5 years from this site than I ever knew before. There are people like Jim and Mike that for no cost dig through bat records to help collectors.

Many of the people with the most knowledge have been driven from this site. Were these people perfect, of course not. Could they be frustrating, absolutely. Yet we all have witnessed a zelot like zeal to attack, demean and drive people from this site. Many of you might not realize it, but it has come at a tremendous cost to all of us and this forum.

Why in the world should our moderators who perform this job for free be charged with moderating an off topic forum? Why should we be encouraging people visiting this forum to engage in such discussion when many have repeatedly demonstrated a total and utter inability to exercise civil discourse on even the most basic topics? Posting a list of reasons why people were banned, another horrible idea in my opinion. It could be defamatory and will lead to even more gossiping and back stabbing.

Paticipating in this forum is a privilege not a right and you should leave it better than when you left. If everyone tried to look at it as an opportunity to build something, whether by offering knowledge or information, it would be a better place. I hope that the moderators exercise a very heavy pen editing the irrelevant and rule this place with an iron fist, banning all those who don't live by Eric's credo. I also hope that the Moderators consider reaching out to those who have been driven away and encourage them to return with the promise of a more civil discussion.

[chakes89]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

An OT section would ruin this forum forever. There is already an OT section...every other message board and forum on the internet.
I think some of you are cool dudes with a lot of knowledge. I could care less about your religious views, your bank account, your car, your job, what dog breed you think is best, your pick for the Oscar, your favorite song, Mac or Windows, boxers or briefs, a good recipe for a fried banana sandwich, etc.

Is the purpose of this forum to gain the most readership or to share the knowledge of game used sports memorabilia?

You wouldn't have to read any of that stuff if you don't want to.

Why is this such an issue?

If you don't want to read something, DON'T READ IT.

Why are people so afraid of change?

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

Warren,

My thoughts on this one is that the game used memorabilia discussion lately contains more than its share of off topic posts. If we were to move all of these into a discussion board of their own, we can leave the GU memorabilia section for game used memorabilia only. This might be a plus for the purists, as they do not have to sift through all of the side topics.

I also think that when it comes down to a democratic vote, most people here seem to prefer the 'off topic' section.

Nick

Nick
You make good points, and it's not my decision. You guys have a tough job, and I'm sure you will make the right choices.

Warren

[TNTtoys]

Re: Suggestion for GUU

An OT section would ruin this forum forever. There is already an OT section...every other message board and forum on the internet.
I think some of you are cool dudes with a lot of knowledge. I could care less about your religious views, your bank account, your car, your job, what dog breed you think is best, your pick for the Oscar, your favorite song, Mac or Windows, boxers or briefs, a good recipe for a fried banana sandwich, etc.

Is the purpose of this forum to gain the most readership or to share the knowledge of game used sports memorabilia?

Warren,

My thoughts on this one is that the game used memorabilia discussion lately contains more than its share of off topic posts. If we were to move all of these into a discussion board of their own, we can leave the GU memorabilia section for game used memorabilia only. This might be a plus for the purists, as they do not have to sift through all of the side topics.

I also think that when it comes down to a democratic vote, most people here seem to prefer the 'off topic' section.

Nick