Ray Rice

[Roady]

Re: Ray Rice

I keep hearing people on tv and the internet, including Congressmen and Senators now, calling for the NFL to get tougher on domestic violence.
What is so laughable is Rice under our system of law didn't get anything but a slap on the wrist. The judge in the case said he would not have faced any jail time for hitting her and knocking her out cold.
Maybe before telling the NFL to get tougher on domestic violence we as a society should get tougher on it first.

[Skizzick]

Re: Ray Rice

What he did was wrong we can all agree on that but how do you justify giving him a lifetime ban yet Stallworth and others only get a 1 year ban for a manslaughter charge? Also if he was truthful about the extent of the incident with the Ravens and the NFL and the only thing that has changed is the public has seen the video how can you cut him and ban him? I fully agree he is a giant piece of %&#$ and should never get to play again but how can you compare this with other suspensions and incidents in the league. Ray Lewis paid off the victims family's to avoid jail time and he is a hero to Ravens Nation. How can you compare a haymaker to a murder? I wonder if Rice actually has some sort of lawsuit against the NFL and Ravens as an option now especially if they had indeed seen the tape. The only variable that has changed is the public has seen the tape.

Stallworth's manslaughter charge was an accident, pure and simple. He police and prosecutors all agree that the guy ran out into the street suddenly before he was hit. The difference between that and Ray Ray was that Rice's action was conducted with malice intent.

Ray Lewis, well he turned states evidence to avoid a murder charge. Fans are terrible for who they will cheer for and defend, and yet, you can't ever reprimand them. They have cheered for a guy that beat a murder charge by diming on his friends and paying off the family, and have cheered for a guy that knocked the crap out of his girlfriend on tape.

[Roady]

Re: Ray Rice

Ravens fans still loyal to Ray Rice

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11509307/baltimore-ravens-fans-loyal-ray-rice-critical-nfl-thursday-game

Morals anyone?

[gingi79]

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You would have to bench your defense every week. I am pretty sure you can find a domestic violence case on every team.

If you choose players based on morals in fantasy football, you wouldn't be able to play.

This is part of the reason I didn't draft Carolina's D. Couple the fact ESPN just ran an article about how Raven's fans still support Rice using a photo of a woman in a Raven's jersey?

I'm not talking morals, he cold clocked a woman who he then became engaged to, to protect himself as the state of Maryland can't force a wife to incriminate their husband.

Michael Vick was ostracized and drafted much less often when he came back from having dogs fight. Guess Ray Rice hit the wrong type of bitch, huh?

[helf35]

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If you choose players based on morals in fantasy football, you wouldn't be able to play.

You would have to bench your defense every week. I am pretty sure you can find a domestic violence case on every team.

[BU54CB]

Re: Ray Rice

Ray Rice's actions are deplorable. This whole circus needs to go away. That being said, a man knocking out a woman he supposedly loves is pathetic. The tremendously positive reaction fans in Baltimore gave him during the next preseason game is disgustingly crass and ethically disturbing.

How about the fact post-two game suspension, yahoo and espn fantasy drafts STILL had him drafted in over 70% of leagues?

"Wife beating is terrible and unforgivable!.....unless he can help me win a make believe contest....then I guess I can ignore it...."

If you choose players based on morals in fantasy football, you wouldn't be able to play.

[helf35]

Re: Ray Rice

What he did was wrong we can all agree on that but how do you justify giving him a lifetime ban yet Stallworth and others only get a 1 year ban for a manslaughter charge? Also if he was truthful about the extent of the incident with the Ravens and the NFL and the only thing that has changed is the public has seen the video how can you cut him and ban him? I fully agree he is a giant piece of %&#$ and should never get to play again but how can you compare this with other suspensions and incidents in the league. Ray Lewis paid off the victims family's to avoid jail time and he is a hero to Ravens Nation. How can you compare a haymaker to a murder? I wonder if Rice actually has some sort of lawsuit against the NFL and Ravens as an option now especially if they had indeed seen the tape. The only variable that has changed is the public has seen the tape.

[gingi79]

Re: Ray Rice

Ray Rice's actions are deplorable. This whole circus needs to go away. That being said, a man knocking out a woman he supposedly loves is pathetic. The tremendously positive reaction fans in Baltimore gave him during the next preseason game is disgustingly crass and ethically disturbing.

How about the fact post-two game suspension, yahoo and espn fantasy drafts STILL had him drafted in over 70% of leagues?

"Wife beating is terrible and unforgivable!.....unless he can help me win a make believe contest....then I guess I can ignore it...."

[Buccaneer Madden]

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If you think Ray Rice is dumb look at his wife's reaction to all of this...oh my.

I saw some of her press conference and she never looked at him and didn't seem to want to even be near him.... I have a feeling she is scared off her ass and thinks if she rats on him she will end up worse off. I don't put ANY stock in what she says as being from the heart.

[Skizzick]

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Money makes people do foolish things.
She should be the poster woman for women who will take abuse to keep the money flowing.

Also, keep in mind that on average, it take women in abusive relationships five times to leave that relationship. I think at this point She and Ray deserve their privacy, and we should now turn our attention to taking Goodell and the Ravens front office to task.

[Roady]

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If you think Ray Rice is dumb look at his wife's reaction to all of this...oh my.

Money makes people do foolish things.
She should be the poster woman for women who will take abuse to keep the money flowing.

[johnsontravis@ymail.com]

Re: Ray Rice

If you think Ray Rice is dumb look at his wife's reaction to all of this...oh my.

[Buccaneer Madden]

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I doubt they stick with him. Being associated with him is not smart right now and with his age and future NFL career uncertain I think he will fade away into sports obscurity.

[Buccaneer Madden]

Re: Ray Rice

To answer the original question I doubt they stick with him. Being associated with him is not smart right now and with his age and future NFL career uncertain I think he will fade away into sports obscurity.

[mbenga28]

Re: Ray Rice

Does anyone know if Steiner will still continue their partnership with Rice?