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  • sportscentury
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 2008

    #16
    Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

    Originally posted by both-teams-played-hard
    You are right. I apologize to AMI, their friends and family. I also apologize to their team of models who seem to be good, upstanding citizens.

    Hope this helps,
    BTPH
    Classic. In this spirit of apologizing, I'd like to apologize for any harsh words directed toward auction house employees who enjoy wearing and horseplaying with consigned game used items before they are auctioned off, and to the friends and families of such free-spirited and fun-loving employees, as well.
    Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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    • mvandor
      Banned
      • Apr 2007
      • 1032

      #17
      Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

      Would someone please inform me how Dave seems to know so much about AMI's daily inner workings and spends half his time here pimping them? I missed the back story.

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      • CollectGU
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 917

        #18
        Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

        I've consigned to them over the years and became friendly with Victor over that time. Aso, I don't know much about their daily inner workings, I simply pick up the telephone and ask a questions. If misinformation is provided on here that I know about - such as "they must have bought the Hagen jersey directly" I will correct it so perception does not become reality. How is that pimping them? Next time you would like to know something about someone, I suggest you simply e-mail them directly.

        Dave

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        • mvandor
          Banned
          • Apr 2007
          • 1032

          #19
          Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

          Originally posted by CollectGU
          I've consigned to them over the years and became friendly with Victor over that time. Aso, I don't know much about their daily inner workings, I simply pick up the telephone and ask a questions. If misinformation is provided on here that I know about - such as "they must have bought the Hagen jersey directly" I will correct it so perception does not become reality. How is that pimping them? Next time you would like to know something about someone, I suggest you simply e-mail them directly.

          Dave
          Well, Dave, you must have a ton of free time to call AMI every time you read something here you don't agree with that pertains to them. 53 years of life experience suggests to me there's more to the story than you describe. Not to mention I get the impression you back their plays religiously here in spite of the fact they've been documented how frequently here selling horribly obvious items as game used? Not that this sets them greatly apart from 90% of their competitors these days.

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          • worldchamps
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2005
            • 759

            #20
            Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

            I will be more than willing to email the ebay seller how much it goes for on AMI

            I emailed them to try to buy it out right and was told that was against their policies.
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            • worldchamps
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 759

              #21
              Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

              i just sent him an email with the auction link

              after i sent him the email, i did think there is a possibilty I guess AMI contacted him and he is the consignor of the jersey?


              I guess that could have happen

              I will put his response if he even responds.
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              • CollectGU
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 917

                #22
                Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                Originally posted by mvandor
                Well, Dave, you must have a ton of free time to call AMI every time you read something here you don't agree with that pertains to them. 53 years of life experience suggests to me there's more to the story than you describe. Not to mention I get the impression you back their plays religiously here in spite of the fact they've been documented how frequently here selling horribly obvious items as game used? Not that this sets them greatly apart from 90% of their competitors these days.
                Mvandor,

                Roger Gibson know who I am through AMI. He also receives much of the material that you have complimented him on from them. Ask him if there is anything more to me than a consignor and friend since you seem to value his opinion. I guess your 53 years haven't served your gut instinct very well. I don't back their plays, I try and keep perception from becoming reality unfairly. When they f8ck up, they deserve to get slack just as much as any auction house.

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                • lund6771
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 805

                  #23
                  Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                  Dave...

                  In the past you have posted that your consignment juice to AMI is the same as everyone else, which if I believe memory serves me correctly, is somewhere around 17.5%...I think you went as far as to even post a copy of a statement

                  how does YOUR gut feel to know that your "friends" have on instances charged other people only 10%?

                  Being such a loyal "friend" to them may not be such a good thing if you are indeed being charged a maximum rate

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                  • CollectGU
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 917

                    #24
                    Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                    Pete,

                    Thank you for jumping into this thread and breaking rule #7. You post clearly is looking to agitate. Also, I am not concerned about other consignment rates, as it's none of my business.

                    Regards,
                    Dave

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                    • worldchamps
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 759

                      #25
                      Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                      Back to the jersey

                      I emailed the ebay seller, I guess he got really screwed. Someone got this for nothing

                      Here is his responce, and the email I sent


                      Bill,
                      The jersey is gone. I admit I made a terriible error in judgement.
                      However It's not a concern of mine anymore. Please no more emails on
                      this subject, Thank You!

                      > I had emailed you about the Hagan jersey. You told me
                      > you would not end it early...you did.
                      >
                      > Well guess what, the guy you sold it to put it in a
                      > major auction house
                      >
                      > http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/Auction_Item.asp?Auction_ID=39282
                      >
                      > I would have given you more, and I can promise you did
                      > not get enough for it.
                      >
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                      • genius
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 539

                        #26
                        Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                        The seller would have received market value if he had let the auction run. Might not have had a huge overpayment on it but he would have been satisfied, wouldn't have had to pay consignment fees, and the jersey would have gone to a serious collector. I think it's in the best interest of all serious collectors for items like this to stay on ebay rather than go to AMI or elsewhere.

                        I still think the posting on this forum alerted the buyer to the jersey's presence!

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                        • jonincleve
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 203

                          #27
                          Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                          jersey went for $9077 without any auction fees.

                          john

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                          • both-teams-played-hard
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 2712

                            #28
                            Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                            I bet the eBay seller sold it for $1,000. Just a guess, don't know for sure. I offered $500 to end early and the seller said he didn't end auctions early. What were other offers from forum members? (Please don't start a ethical question about ending auctions early...there are other threads on this topic that can be re-freshed.) I am still curious as to how this auction ended early, then was photographed, then appeared on AMI's website in 5 days. I will accept the FedEx theory.

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                            • genius
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 539

                              #29
                              Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                              I think there's still room to make money on this one, if the buyer takes it to Grey Flannel's next HOF auction. Could go for $15K or more.

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                              • worldchamps
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 759

                                #30
                                Re: Cliff Hagan jersey

                                I never made a formal offer, just tried to see what he wanted.....it pisses me off still, bc he was so set on letting it ride through...then all of the sudden it ended

                                I would have gone well over $1,000...and I agree, if this jersey was in the HOF auction on GFC it goes for over that.

                                I would almost bet you we see this jersey again.

                                Oh I would love to know the details....someone on this board is rolling around laughing when they read these posts....whoever got it, good job!

                                I do wonder if AM actually bought it directly off ebay??? maybe???
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