Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

[DrJ]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

RKGIBSON - I replied to your other thread about how to date. It's the way I understand to date them.

[RKGIBSON]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

DrJ,
Can you explain the date system to me?

Roger

[DrJ]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

Face mask is 1997.

[RKGIBSON]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

Aeneas01,
Attached are pictures of the LH and front inner on my Alstott helmet. Also a shot of the dated face mask retainers 1-97. I do not know how to read the date code on the face mask itself, DIG. Educate me.

Roger

[aeneas01]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

Nope. I got it because I love the style, not to re-sell.
The only time I sell things is when I'm looking to upgrade to something better. Not sure how I can improve on that one...
Eric

somehow i was pretty certain that would be your position!

I can not see any other stampings or etchings inside the Alstott helmet. There is a warning label above the left ear hole, right one is gone, but I cannot feel anything under it. I did not see anything under the pads. There some velcro squares that could hide it.

interesting roger - if you ever get a chance would you post a snap shot of the inside left area of your bucs' lid, the same area where the date codes appear on your other helmets...

[Eric]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

that's also a great looking gates helmet eric. if someone offered you $2,500 for it eric would you sell it?

Nope. I got it because I love the style, not to re-sell.
The only time I sell things is when I'm looking to upgrade to something better. Not sure how I can improve on that one...
Eric

[RKGIBSON]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

Aeneas01,
I can not see any other stampings or etchings inside the Alstott helmet. There is a warning label above the left ear hole, right one is gone, but I cannot feel anything under it. I did not see anything under the pads. There some velcro squares that could hide it.

Roger

[aeneas01]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

rkgibson - there are two dates that can be found on modern schutt helmets. one is the shell molding date which is the 6 digit number and letter(s) found below the left earhole on the inside of the helmet and the other is the manufacturing date which can be found on the serial number decal below the crown pad. depending on the age of the helmet the shell molding date could be at the rear of helmet below the back pad (sizer) under the center piece of velcro which holds the pad in place.

the "3 98" appearing on your bucs helmet appears to be a manufacturing date given the format - however schutt does not heat stamp numbers on the right side of the shell which is where this number appears to be. consequently, i'm guessing that this number was stamped by the reconditioner or the bucs.

does your bucs helmet have a shell molding date on the left side below the earhole? if so, what is it? does it have a serial number decal on the crown below the padding? if so, what are the three letters that appear below the serial number?

btw, it's a great looking lid and so are your other ones that i saw in another thread - and that's also a great looking gates helmet eric. if someone offered you $2,500 for it eric would you sell it?

[RKGIBSON]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

Eric,

I really like that helmet, better than the 06. More game use.

Roger

[mvandor]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

I feel pretty good about the one I won for $999 a couple of years ago on NFL auctions from the 2004 throwback game

Looks like it was a good investment, now worth $2,500!!!

Prob is, I get a sense the market has peaked, not sure you'd profit in the next decade at $2,500 even if Gatesy makes the HOF.

[Eric]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

I feel pretty good about the one I won for $999 a couple of years ago on NFL auctions from the 2004 throwback game

[jayt1234]

Helmet went for $2461

Jay

[RKGIBSON]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

Aeneas01,

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us. I am a member here to advance my knowledge so I am a better educated collector. Guy like you make it worth while.

I have only a few helmets that I know exactly where they come from. One has a month/year date code stamped by the ear hole. All the others have the 6 number and 2 letter code. Can you tell me why this one is different? It is a Buccaneer helmet used in '99.

Roger

[Blake]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

That's good to know..Thanks!

Gerald

[aeneas01]

Re: Antonio Gates G/U Helmet

What does the first two numbers and the last two letters in the code mean?

Roger

first number - type of plastic used
second number - work shift
first letter - facility where the helmet was molded
last letter - helmet size

if you have a schutt helmet with a code that begins with anything other than 0 or 1 it's a youth helmet...