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  • Eric
    Senior Member
    • Jan 1970
    • 2848

    Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

    In the current grey flannel auction

    Lot # 49 - 1978 Gaylord Perry San Diego Padres Game-Used Road Jersey (Cy Young Season)



    I'd love to hear some opinions on the lettering in the word Padres and the collar customization from any Padres or Gaylord Perry experts.

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  • Eric
    Senior Member
    • Jan 1970
    • 2848

    #2
    Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

    Also, please look at this photo

    Check out the collar customization on Perry and the player "Rasmussen" behind Gaylord. Looks like the name is not on a nameplate

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    • kingjammy24
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 3119

      #3
      Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?



      this was a one-year only style worn in 1978.

      rudy.

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      • Billyu40
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2007
        • 100

        #4
        Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

        It is also missing the 1978 All-Star game patch on the left arm.

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        • kingjammy24
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2005
          • 3119

          #5
          Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

          it's my personal opinion that the thing is a complete restoration. "san diego" is wrong, "padres" is wrong and even the numbers are wrong. the fonts for all of them aren't even close.

          apparently these were recycled to the minors and so it's very difficult to find an original. perhaps someone found one that had been recycled to the minors, hence the removal of the patch (why would the major league team remove the patch if they weren't planning on using them again in 1979? the only reason i can think of is to recycle them through the minors) and decided to turn it into a gaylord perry.

          i'd like to know more about nick coppola's discerning eye.

          rudy.

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          • R. C. Walker
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2005
            • 565

            #6
            Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

            Originally posted by Eric
            Also, please look at this photo

            Check out the collar customization on Perry and the player "Rasmussen" behind Gaylord. Looks like the name is not on a nameplate

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            The Padres used nameplates on all the brown and gold era jerseys. Eric Rassmussen was traded to the Padres during the ’78 season is one of those unique instances when (for whatever reason) the Padres did not use a nameplate. I had seen the Rassmussen in an auction and did not bid on it for that very reason. Unfortunately, I found that same Corbis picture a month or so afterwards.

            Nothing on this Perry jersey is correct. Fonts for the numbers, San Diego, Padres, Perry and flag tag are completely wrong. Even the rip of the collar shows no sign of wear, as you can see in the previous photos of Gaylord. The Padres recycled jersey through the minors during the ’70’s and early ’80’s. If this had been one, there would have been a marking on the Wilson tag with a black maker.

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            • hblakewolf
              Banned
              • Nov 2005
              • 1870

              #7
              Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

              A bit shocked that no one picked up on the incorrect Wilson tag. Post 1980+ on a 1978 jersey?

              Howard Wolf
              hblakewolf@patmedia.net

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              • both-teams-played-hard
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 2712

                #8
                Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

                I have tried to locate old posts about Winfield Padres jerseys from this same era. Does anyone recall the Winfields that showed up on eBay and some auction houses? They had very similar problems as this Perry (fonts, tagging, etc.) They were said to have hand cut lettering and numbers. They didn't appear to be altered authentic replicas or mitchell&Nesses with changed tags. Can someone jog my memory?

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                • Eric
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 1970
                  • 2848

                  #9
                  Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

                  Tapatalk brings you to people who share your own passions and interests. Millions of members are online now, sharing their expert opinions with others who can truly appreciate them. Tapatalk is different from traditional social media--the people you meet will be as excited by your hobby as you are.
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                  • both-teams-played-hard
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 2712

                    #10
                    Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

                    Eric
                    Thanks. Memory jogged. Seems this Winfield has the same issues as the Perry. Same Seamstress? The World may never know.

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                    • karamaxjoe
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2005
                      • 651

                      #11
                      Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

                      You guys never cease to amaze me on the stuff you find.

                      I did a little looking also and found a 78 Perry and Winfield jersey in a Lelands auction from August of 2001. Both jerseys have the exact same font problems as the GF Perry jersey. I also wanted to note both jerseys sold in the thousands and the Lelands Perry is not the same jersey as the GF Perry. It appears someone put together a few of these after they were recycled. Does anyone have a common 78 Padre jersey?

                      Mike
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                      • kingjammy24
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2005
                        • 3119

                        #12
                        Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

                        here are the '78 padres jerseys from lelands' previous auctions:



                        rudy.

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                        • both-teams-played-hard
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2005
                          • 2712

                          #13
                          Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

                          Originally posted by karamaxjoe
                          It appears someone put together a few of these after they were recycled.
                          Since these shirts have the wrong year Wilson tag, it doesn't seem like they were recycled. It seems as though they were forged from scratch.

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                          • kingjammy24
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3119

                            #14
                            Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

                            warren,

                            i'm always up for learning more about tags. as far as i know however, the wilson tag on the perry falls into the correct date range.



                            do you and howard know something i don't?

                            rudy.

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                            • kingjammy24
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 3119

                              #15
                              Re: Gaylord Perry Padres lettering?

                              look.. check out the 2 "R"'s in the GFC perry. notice how the first R has a noticeably larger space in the middle than the second R? this occurs in BOTH the GFC jersey and the lelands jersey. these letters look hand-cut. it's not a perfect vertical arch. there are human errors in the angles. anyway, on each jersey, the first R has a large space in the middle of it and on each jersey the second R has a smaller space. on each jersey the "E" is higher than the proceeding "R". what are the odds?



                              rudy.

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