Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

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  • AROD313
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 174

    #31
    Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

    Looking close at the pictures I don't thing these 2 bats are the same. Look at the 27 under the signature they are different. Also the so called wood grain match is also slightly different. I thing you guys were a little to hasty to put this one down. Thats my thoughts anyway

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    • kylehess10
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2006
      • 3100

      #32
      Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

      Originally posted by AROD313
      Looking close at the pictures I don't thing these 2 bats are the same. Look at the 27 under the signature they are different. Also the so called wood grain match is also slightly different. I thing you guys were a little to hasty to put this one down. Thats my thoughts anyway

      Could you please explain how the grain is not a match? It looks like the same bat to me in both pictures
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      • PAT HODGINS
        Junior Member
        • Nov 2005
        • 19

        #33
        Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

        Look for identical markings on both bats, they are the same.




        Pat Hodgins
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        • AROD313
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 174

          #34
          Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

          It is not the same wood grain very close but if you look there is a few very small differences. looke closely with an open mind.

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          • platinum1
            Banned
            • Mar 2008
            • 878

            #35
            Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

            Originally posted by AROD313
            Looking close at the pictures I don't thing these 2 bats are the same. Look at the 27 under the signature they are different. Also the so called wood grain match is also slightly different. I thing you guys were a little to hasty to put this one down. Thats my thoughts anyway
            The first picture is the original the 2nd picture is the NEW and IMPROVED bat.
            Besides the new marks is the exact bat
            [IMG]file:///C:/Users/Edgar/AppData/Local/Temp/moz-screenshot-1.jpg[/IMG]
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            • AROD313
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2007
              • 174

              #36
              Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

              If you look at the less used bat it has a point at the top of the wood grain that goes all the way into the game used inscription. Also near the other end of that point there is a little hump that is not on the other bat. Also the pictures you posted the markings don't even look the same. You could find the same markings on any vlad game used bat. I still think they are 2 different bat's and I know I'm in the minority.

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              • platinum1
                Banned
                • Mar 2008
                • 878

                #37
                Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                Originally posted by AROD313
                If you look at the less used bat it has a point at the top of the wood grain that goes all the way into the game used inscription. Also near the other end of that point there is a little hump that is not on the other bat. Also the pictures you posted the markings don't even look the same. You could find the same markings on any vlad game used bat. I still think they are 2 different bat's and I know I'm in the minority.
                I hope you are not for real the Bats are the same ones, Give me one second I can circles all the dead give aways

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                • AROD313
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2007
                  • 174

                  #38
                  Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                  Originally posted by platinum1
                  I hope you are not for real the Bats are the same ones, Give me one second I can circles all the dead give aways
                  Marks aside
                  Put both wood grains closer together side by side and let's see the difference!

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                  • platinum1
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 878

                    #39
                    Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                    Originally posted by AROD313
                    Marks aside
                    Put both wood grains closer together side by side and let's see the difference!
                    There's no difference. If you look at the grains on the right side where the black marks are at you can easily tell is the same bat. Then look at the black marks on the right side they are the EXACT ones. Count all the black marks and then look at each size of the black marks is the same bat.

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                    • AROD313
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 174

                      #40
                      Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                      Originally posted by platinum1
                      There's no difference. If you look at the grains on the right side where the black marks are at you can easily tell is the same bat. Then look at the black marks on the right side they are the EXACT ones. Count all the black marks and then look at each size of the black marks is the same bat.

                      Ok, Maybe It's the same bat!

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                      • lund6771
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 805

                        #41
                        Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                        Originally posted by BAT DEALER
                        DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AND GET THE OTHER BAT AND SHOW YOU?

                        Bat Loser...where are your pictures?

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                        • frikativ54
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 3612

                          #42
                          Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                          Originally posted by lund6771
                          Bat Loser...where are your pictures?
                          He's buying PhotoShop right now.
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                          • dodgersfan
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 311

                            #43
                            Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                            Tony,I will be at Frank & Sons this Saturday 5/17.
                            Why dont you take both bats with you and I will take my camera and we can settle this once and for all.
                            What do you think?

                            Rudy





                            Originally posted by BAT DEALER
                            DO YOU WANT ME TO GO AND GET THE OTHER BAT AND SHOW YOU?

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                            • frikativ54
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2007
                              • 3612

                              #44
                              Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                              Originally posted by dodgersfan
                              Tony,I will be at Frank & Sons this Saturday 5/17.
                              Why dont you take both bats with you and I will take my camera and we can settle this once and for all.
                              What do you think?

                              Rudy
                              Great idea! Let me know how it goes. I'm sure you'll see two separate bats.
                              Les Zukor
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                              Collecting Jeff Bagwell Cleats, Jerseys, & Other Items

                              http://www.bagwellgameused.com
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                              • dodgersfan
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 311

                                #45
                                Re: Vladimir Guerrero 2007 HR derby bat...I dont think so!! PART II (Forgery!!)

                                Tony,Here is your chance to clear your name!
                                Will you be there this Saturday?




                                Rudy



                                Originally posted by frikativ54
                                Great idea! Let me know how it goes. I'm sure you'll see two separate bats.

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