2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

[moderncollector]

The seller told me the MEARS worksheet was obtained directly from Mastro, after he had sent it off to them. I find this suspect as MEARS had promised to not work with any auction house other than Robert Edward Auctions. Either MEARS lied, or Mastro is using third party's to have MEARS look at consignments since they are not able to use MEARS directly. MEARS promised to punish that behavior.

Any thoughts about the jersey either?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Cardinals-Albert-Pujols-SIGNED-Game-Used-Jersey-MEARS_W0QQitemZ220249825371QQihZ012QQcategoryZ60597QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[hblakewolf]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

This shirt has more lives than a black cat!

http://www.gameuseduniverse.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=6277&highlight=pujols+jersey+steinmetz

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@comcast.net

[Eric]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

The seller told me the MEARS worksheet was obtained directly from Mastro, after he had sent it off to them.

When was it sent? I'm a bit confused about what you're questioning...

[trsent]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

I guess he updated his listing, here is text I just found in the item's description:

"A known message board attempting, but failing, in the attempt to be a high class auction house was selling a signed Pujols signed gamer in their last auction, and it went for $6,000+."

I guess he is taking a shot at Game Used Universe. I talked to Chris and Rob at a trade show in Chicago a few weeks ago and they gave me the impression they are pleased with the progress of their auctions so I have no clue what these comments in their description mean.

[jimbo]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

Two observations:

1. I was under the impression that Albert had his jerseys cut without tails. This jersey has tails.

2. I see a copy of the MEARS worksheet, but there's no MEARS LOO.

A review of the MEARS worksheet identifies several red flags:

1. MEARS also noted that the jersey sizing is inconsistent with the tagging. The jersey is tagged as a 48. The chest measures out at 52. If he actually wore this jersey, Albert would be swimming in it. He generally appears to fill out his jerseys. Size 48 has been his size since the most of 2001.

2. MEARS could not identify the year of manufacture. "UNKNOWN 2003-2005" is noted on the worksheet. According to authenticgamers.com, a majority (99%) of Cards jerseys in 2003 did not have a year tag following the move to Majestic. Following the switch to Majestic, authenticgamers.com notes that dozens of questionable Pujols game used examples surfaced.

3. The MEARS worksheet does not have signatures of the authenticators. Was there enough information obtained in the course of the eval to conclude that MEARS was unable to authenticate?

I assumed all jerseys submitted to MEARS at a minimum, would have a worksheet to document the eval, but those jerseys that MEARS concludes are game used would have a LOO with a final grade.

[Eric]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

The seller told me the MEARS worksheet was obtained directly from Mastro, after he had sent it off to them. I find this suspect as MEARS had promised to not work with any auction house other than Robert Edward Auctions. Either MEARS lied, or Mastro is using third party's to have MEARS look at consignments since they are not able to use MEARS directly. MEARS promised to punish that behavior.

Any thoughts about the jersey either?


http://cgi.ebay.com/Cardinals-Albert...QQcmdZViewItem

moderncollector-

please clarify your questions about this item here. you seem to be calling it into question, but i'm not entirely sure what your point is.

[bigtruck260]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

The MEARS letter does not look right.

Eric - I think he is trying to say that the auction house passed the jersey along to a third party...who in turn took it to MEARS for evaluation...then returned it to the auction house.

[Eric]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

interesting re-listing

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220251675384

"Authentic autographed Albert Pujols game Worn Jerseys have been selling for between $6000 and $8500 in recent sports memorabilia auctions. This jersey is signed and is game worn from Albert's best season, 2003. Grey Flannel provided a LOA for this jersey. The hand written initials described in the Grey Flannel LOA need to be looked at in a better light than my camera provides. eBay approved authenticator GAI has authenticated the 2007 signed Albert Pujols 100% authentic signature. Game Used Universe along with American Memorabilia are in my opinion, the worst auction houses in America 'and even they are bringing in $5,000+ for Pujols signed Game Used Jerseys."

[frikativ54]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

interesting re-listing

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220251675384

"Authentic autographed Albert Pujols game Worn Jerseys have been selling for between $6000 and $8500 in recent sports memorabilia auctions. This jersey is signed and is game worn from Albert's best season, 2003. Grey Flannel provided a LOA for this jersey. The hand written initials described in the Grey Flannel LOA need to be looked at in a better light than my camera provides. eBay approved authenticator GAI has authenticated the 2007 signed Albert Pujols 100% authentic signature. Game Used Universe along with American Memorabilia are in my opinion, the worst auction houses in America 'and even they are bringing in $5,000+ for Pujols signed Game Used Jerseys."

I usually don't get involved in these discussions, but I thought I'd mention that sometimes this bad publicity might get more people to take note of GUU. A lot of watchers of this item will have their curiosity piqued by the listing and will come on this website. Many may stay, when they realized that the Game Used Forums are about educating the collector. Just another way of looking at things.

[Fnazxc0114]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

thats cool that he sent a shoutout to kyle hess.

[frikativ54]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

thats cool that he sent a shoutout to kyle hess.

And he quoted me. I don't understand things like this. Why do I need to be brought into this discussion? I thought that the publicity would potentially help GUU, so I am now quoted on an eBay auction. I put my contact information on every post, so I think that it is only right that I am written before my material is quoted verbatim on another site.

[frikativ54]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

It has now been relisted: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220251675384.

[CollectGU]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

Is it true that this jersey originated with Rob Steinmetz as he states?

[hblakewolf]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

Is it true that this jersey originated with Rob Steinmetz as he states?

Dave-
This jersey has been discussed in a previous thread:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.net/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=6277&highlight=pujols+jersey+steinmetz

See post #7

According to Rob, this jersey did not originate from him.

Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@comcast.net

[frikativ54]

Re: 2003 Pujols Jersey on eBay with Grey Flannel Letter

What I don't understand is what any bickering between GUU members and the seller has to do with the item. I mean, if the guy thinks that the Game Used Forums aren't a good source of information, then that's great - he doesn't have to post or bid in the auction. But what does Game Used Universe's reputation, either good or bad, have to do with the Pujols jersey in question? The true question is whether or not the item is authentic. And the seller only detracts from the true point by attacking the reputation of this website. All we are asking for is proof that the Pujols jersey is a legitimately game-used item.