Classic eBay story!

[David]

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If the seller refused to pay the amount due (winning bids plus stated shipping charges) I think you can have any negative feedbacks removed. Winners have a lot of leeway these days, but they are still required to pay the bill before gaining the right to give negative feedback.

[jv225]

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Exactly, jv225. as I'm sure most of us do.

But, at the risk of sounding like a broken record......you hit the nail on the head with your comment about "not being able to afford it".

This is why we are in the economic bedlam we are in. Think of all of the people that went ahead and bought houses they had no right buying. In fact, there were so many purchased by people who had no HOPE of keeping them, that the whole foundation of our economy is teetering on the brink of total collapse (a LARGE part of which is the current housing crisis), so we are having to "pitch in" via our Government bailing them all out with "emergency" stimulis packages, Billion dollar bail-outs, purchasing of BILLIONS of dollars of "bad assets" off the books of the major banks (to keep them solvent) who loaned the money out via FRAUDULENT short-term ARM's designed to make a lot of ex-alcoholic and drug-abusing mortgage loan officers BIG bucks for pushing paper to these very people who should have never qualified to buy a DAMN HOME in the first place.....

NICE F'ing JOB GREENSPAN!!!!!!!

*taking a deep breath*........I'm sorry, got a bit carried away there. But you see my point? This "idealological "me-first" mentality is embedded DEEP into society today.....because of the very GARBAGE like what's being allowed to transpire on EBAY today......leaving "responsibility" as a distant memory as a staple in conducting our lives.

You were on the mark with your comments, and American citizens had better get back to what led us down the straight and narrow....and we had better start punishing the ones who are using the system to their own advantage while they let the honest languish in problems they have caused for them while doing wrong things.......or we'll never climb out of our crash-course with the abyss we are heading into.

That's funny suicide squeeze. In my first post I actually started typing about this whole mortgage thing and people not having enough damn common sense to only buy what they can actually afford but I started to rant and get political and decided I better delete it. So you actually saved me quite a bit of typing time since you did it for me
We seem to think alike since I agree with pretty much everything you have said here.

[nyjetsfan14]

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Through the years, however, I have grown extremely tired of "stupid people". ANd I have a really grown to resent stupid organizations and formats that reward the wrong, the criminals, and the advantage-takers over the honest. So...if I come off as sounding a bit harsh, it's because I have become hostile and violent towards it all.

Welcome to the life of a NY Jets fan

[suicide_squeeze]

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Suicide you sound very hostile and violent ever think about taking up a hobby to rid your stress like collect Game Used Items from Sports or maybe take up your spare time with selling on ebay or even combining the 2 lol lol lol

(smiling with you).....

Actually, I am not violent at all.

Through the years, however, I have grown extremely tired of "stupid people". ANd I have a really grown to resent stupid organizations and formats that reward the wrong, the criminals, and the advantage-takers over the honest. So...if I come off as sounding a bit harsh, it's because I have become hostile and violent towards it all.

I don't mean to sound like I have no tolerance.......but my LORD, they seem to be everywhere. And if today's state isn't a good indication we should all be tired of it......then I don't know what is?

[suave1477]

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Suicide you sound very hostile and violent ever think about taking up a hobby to rid your stress like collect Game Used Items from Sports or maybe take up your spare time with selling on ebay or even combining the 2 lol lol lol

[suicide_squeeze]

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Since we are bashing ebay paypal I need to throw a story in.

I sold a Porsche on ebay in May of 2007. It was won by a fellow in Germany who spoke no English. My auction stated deposit within 48 hours with payment in full in 7 days. Time passed, no payment. After a month or so I tried to file a non-paying bidder complaint. Ebay rejected it stating the seller intends on completing the transaction.

In the meantime the German (named Helmut, a name I will never forget) buys another Porsche from Hyman Motors, a highly regarded classic car dealer. Well now the German wants to ship the two together. Nevermind the point that he hasn't paid me a penny. Three months pass and I get a deposit of some nominal amount.

Five months pass and he finally decides to pay me. Now Hyman is waiting for my Porsche to ship them together. I gave the German quotes for shipping to Hyman and even offered to do the arrangements. But I will not front the money. Not after how long it took for him to pay me. No response from the German.

Finally Hyman got sick of waiting, sent a truck and away the car went. This was in November

So thanks to ebay/paypal I had to wait 5 months for the money and six months to get it out of my garage.

I know it isn't game used but it is an example of how ebay/paypal will hold you hostage regardless of how bad the seller has violated your terms of agreement. Do you think I will ever use ebay to sell anything large again? Not a chance. Thank goodness for Craigslist.

It's unreal. Just leaves me speechless how a buyer can DUMP down on us sellers.......and there is NO support from ebay whatsoever.

That's because they're too busy hiring 21 year olds with "great forward-thinking ideas!!!"

God help me......I'm getting that "THROTTLING THE "F" OUT OF THE FIRST YOUNG PUNK THAT WALKS BY ME" feeling again!!!

[suicide_squeeze]

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Wow Suicide squeeze that is crazy. Why is that people don't have enough sense to not bid if they can't afford the item? I mean damn if it's going to take you months to pay for something maybe you should actually wait until you have the cash. Anytime I win an ebay auction I pay within minutes of it ending unless I go to sleep before the end then I pay in the morning before I leave for work.

Exactly, jv225. as I'm sure most of us do.

But, at the risk of sounding like a broken record......you hit the nail on the head with your comment about "not being able to afford it".

This is why we are in the economic bedlam we are in. Think of all of the people that went ahead and bought houses they had no right buying. In fact, there were so many purchased by people who had no HOPE of keeping them, that the whole foundation of our economy is teetering on the brink of total collapse (a LARGE part of which is the current housing crisis), so we are having to "pitch in" via our Government bailing them all out with "emergency" stimulis packages, Billion dollar bail-outs, purchasing of BILLIONS of dollars of "bad assets" off the books of the major banks (to keep them solvent) who loaned the money out via FRAUDULENT short-term ARM's designed to make a lot of ex-alcoholic and drug-abusing mortgage loan officers BIG bucks for pushing paper to these very people who should have never qualified to buy a DAMN HOME in the first place.....

NICE F'ing JOB GREENSPAN!!!!!!!

*taking a deep breath*........I'm sorry, got a bit carried away there. But you see my point? This "idealological "me-first" mentality is embedded DEEP into society today.....because of the very GARBAGE like what's being allowed to transpire on EBAY today......leaving "responsibility" as a distant memory as a staple in conducting our lives.

You were on the mark with your comments, and American citizens had better get back to what led us down the straight and narrow....and we had better start punishing the ones who are using the system to their own advantage while they let the honest languish in problems they have caused for them while doing wrong things.......or we'll never climb out of our crash-course with the abyss we are heading into.

[suicide_squeeze]

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And I believe that once you cancel a Paypal claim, you can not file a second.

You are 100% correct.......which is why this loser who won my jersey was so reluctant in ending his wrongful case against me. He kept saying "Once I end this, I cannot start a new one"......Which was met with my "WHY did you start it IN THE FIRST PLACE????.....You HAVEN'T EVEN PAID ME FOR THE ITEM YOU WON?????"

He's just lucky I'm an honest guy. If I were in the mood to really give him a dose of "payback"......I would consider sending him a box, with delivery confirmation, with an old t-shirt I used to wear with holes in it so my birds could sit on my shoulder and crap all over me.

He'll get his jersey. I hope he realizes just how lucky he is.

You know, screw that.....I'll make sure he knows JUST how lucky he is.

I'm going to print this entire thread, and send the copy inside the box with his jersey......explaining to him it's a MUST READ. He'll get the picture.

[suicide_squeeze]

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Wow Suicide squeeze that is crazy. Why is that people don't have enough sense to not bid if they can't afford the item? I mean damn if it's going to take you months to pay for something maybe you should actually wait until you have the cash. Anytime I win an ebay auction I pay within minutes of it ending unless I go to sleep before the end then I pay in the morning before I leave for work.

jv225........you want to hear the FUNNIEST part of it ALL????


I received one of those (apparently automatic) "customer survey" emails from Paypal, asking me if I was satisfied with their "service".

I'd copy you all on my response, but I would be repremanded and most likely suspended from this site for the verbage I used in my description of just how happy I was with their service.

I'm telling you, people, we are NOT making progress in moving in the right direction in this country. There are some fairly STUPID people put in positions of authority, and we're all paying a steep price for it.

FLEAbay and PLAYpal are two emphatic examples of what is going wrong with great companies with the new younger "minds" take over. And please, don't get me wrong......I know there are a LOT of younger people who are totally capible of doing things right, and the proper way. It's just that they apparently aren't the ones who are "exciting" or "forward thinking" enough to grab the fancy of the exec's performing the hiring. No problem, eventually someone who's LOADED with billions will start up a company to compete with ebay, and we'll witness the collapse of the biggest company in history to have ever come from the "internet" explosion.

I welcome it with open arms.....especially after reading this post and all of the comments.

Last comment from me on this thread.....TO ANY AND ALL SELLERS......If you are representing honestly what you are selling, and you have done it right in your auction and someone starts "F'ing" with you like this piece of steamy dog poop-on-the-sidewalk that this thread is about did......do whatever you can to instigate the exact opposite of whatever the buyer wants. In layman's terms.....make the SOB's life as miserable as he has made yours (ours)...... x 10! Remember what MOM taught us gang....

"Do undo others as they have done to you......then stick the knife in!!"

Ok, maybe I modified it a bit....

[sylbry]

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Since we are bashing ebay paypal I need to throw a story in.

I sold a Porsche on ebay in May of 2007. It was won by a fellow in Germany who spoke no English. My auction stated deposit within 48 hours with payment in full in 7 days. Time passed, no payment. After a month or so I tried to file a non-paying bidder complaint. Ebay rejected it stating the seller intends on completing the transaction.

In the meantime the German (named Helmut, a name I will never forget) buys another Porsche from Hyman Motors, a highly regarded classic car dealer. Well now the German wants to ship the two together. Nevermind the point that he hasn't paid me a penny. Three months pass and I get a deposit of some nominal amount.

Five months pass and he finally decides to pay me. Now Hyman is waiting for my Porsche to ship them together. I gave the German quotes for shipping to Hyman and even offered to do the arrangements. But I will not front the money. Not after how long it took for him to pay me. No response from the German.

Finally Hyman got sick of waiting, sent a truck and away the car went. This was in November

So thanks to ebay/paypal I had to wait 5 months for the money and six months to get it out of my garage.

I know it isn't game used but it is an example of how ebay/paypal will hold you hostage regardless of how bad the seller has violated your terms of agreement. Do you think I will ever use ebay to sell anything large again? Not a chance. Thank goodness for Craigslist.

[BULBUS]

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And I believe that once you cancel a Paypal claim, you can not file a second.

[sammy]

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Let's see....

You have 1500.00 of his.............and...............
you still have the jersey.

Seems like it is mainly his problem now.

500.00 for aggravation damages and return the rest

[jv225]

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Wow Suicide squeeze that is crazy. Why is that people don't have enough sense to not bid if they can't afford the item? I mean damn if it's going to take you months to pay for something maybe you should actually wait until you have the cash. Anytime I win an ebay auction I pay within minutes of it ending unless I go to sleep before the end then I pay in the morning before I leave for work.

[suicide_squeeze]

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(sorry for the "cont." stuff, but I'm at work, and am fitting this inbetween).....

So then, I have to be nice against everything I'm made of JUST to get this loser to "agree to drop the case, since now there is absolutely NO payment of any kind made for the auction".......which he then proceeds to act like he's doing me a FAVOR by doing so.

You guys ever feel like you just want to PUMMEL someone?

Anyway, he closes out this "case" he wrongfully opened (it took about 5 days) and made the partial payment funds available to me......at which time I transferred into my checking account as quickly as I could to pay down the debt I was trying to get rid of in the first place.

Today? It's Feb 18, 2009. I still have yet to receive the remaining $650.00 and change this guy stills owes me for the jersey. He emailed me over a week agao, saying he was going to "send a check" this time, and I should have it in a day or so, most likely by the weekend.

That was LAST weekend......It's now Wednesday......nothing.

He has waited SO LONG to pay me for the auction, that we can't even exchange positive feedback for it any longer, as the auction item has been removed from the data base of ebay.

Hmmmmmmm........maybe I'll teach this piece of garbage what it's like to NOT follow the rules? MAYBE......I'll ship him his jersey three months after I receive his final payment.......and then I'll send the letters of authenticity that were supposed to come with it in another three months?

The point of this story is to show you JUST how whacked out ebay (& Paypal who is OWNED by ebay) really is, and how they have crapped down the throats of the sellers......YOU KNOW......the ones that make ebay what it is?

Quite frankly, I am so disgusted with ebay, I could care less if they went out of biz......although I know that will never happen. They are now as intertwined in American society as the internet. So maybe after they lose quite a bit of business, they'll fire all of the morons they have running it now, and things will get back to the good old days.

We'll see, but I have no hopes.....I'm not that foolish.

[suicide_squeeze]

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cont.....

So she tells me "Since he has opened a case against you, we have placed a HOLD on the $1,500.00 he paid you".

WHAT? Then I have no access to his un-agreed upon partial payment??? So, in effect, he hasn't paid a freaking PENNY for the item he won from me??? This was beyond absurd, and I told her in no uncertain terms. I also knew what was coming next from lemmings like her, so I beat her to the punch.

I told this Paypal rep what she could do with her "case", and hung up on her.

Then, I instantly logged into ebay and sent three consecutive lambasting emails to this loser asking him why he did what he did? He hadn't paid in full, he led me to believe the payment was coming in the mail....and when I kept telling him I hadn't received it, he never even mentioned "I made it through paypal."

He sends me this limp-dick response "Well, when you didn't tell me you had received my payment, I thought you were pulling a fast one and scamming me. So I stopped the payment. The only way I could stop the payment was to start the case......That's what ebay and paypal told me."

to be cont again....