Arod Or Jeter

[panthrotc]

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Having rings doesn't make you a proven or great player. There are many players with 3 and 4 rings (basketball, baseball, etc.) who were just on good teams. Some of them won't even get into the hall of fame with those rings.

I like Jeter. I just believe if he never played for the Yankees, he would be considered just an average shortstop, based on his career numbers.

Just my opinion.

Regards, Tony

And if mickey mantle played his whole career with boston redsox he would not be regarded as the legend in pinstripes and all the aura that surrounds him. But that is not the way History is. History is that Jeter , came up with alot of huge clutch hits that sparked rallys during the dynasty that became the yankees from 96-00. History is that he has 4 rings. History will show he will end up as ALL TIME hits leader for the yankees. And with all the history talk, no yankee has ever attained 3,000 hits. If Joe Montana did not have Jerry Rice. If Bob Cousy did not have Bill Russell. If Bellichick did not have Brady. IF is a word you should use in sports history. Derek Jeter has hit in the clutch playing in the biggest spotlight of the sports world. And he did it in the post season in NY, where sports IS the only thing that matters, AROD will never perform in the clutch the way Jeter has. With all the baseball players that have played years worth of games in the post season, Derek Jeter has the most hits. That is a fact. I hate it when "IF's" are brought up with Jeter conversations. I am a Yankees hater. But i am a Jeter fan. Why? because i know greatness when i see it. Derek Jeter and AROD are both HOF'ers. But AROD and Jeter are miles and miles away from each other when it comes to hitting in clutch situations. And hitting in clutch situations makes you a great player.

[harpt]

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And hitting in clutch situations makes you a great player.

I have to agree. This argument is true even when it comes to "greatest of all time" type of guys. Michael Jordan was extremely gifted and had the physical tools to be among the best. He is widely considered the greatest ever, however, because he never missed that last shot. He was biggest in big games.

There are plenty of other players (in my opinion) who had/have as much talent as Michael...none of them were/are the same caliber of winner though. And Yes...he did have Scotty.

[BULBUS]

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And if mickey mantle played his whole career with boston redsox he would not be regarded as the legend in pinstripes and all the aura that surrounds him. But that is not the way History is. History is that Jeter , came up with alot of huge clutch hits that sparked rallys during the dynasty that became the yankees from 96-00. History is that he has 4 rings. History will show he will end up as ALL TIME hits leader for the yankees. And with all the history talk, no yankee has ever attained 3,000 hits. If Joe Montana did not have Jerry Rice. If Bob Cousy did not have Bill Russell. If Bellichick did not have Brady. IF is a word you should use in sports history. Derek Jeter has hit in the clutch playing in the biggest spotlight of the sports world. And he did it in the post season in NY, where sports IS the only thing that matters, AROD will never perform in the clutch the way Jeter has. With all the baseball players that have played years worth of games in the post season, Derek Jeter has the most hits. That is a fact. I hate it when "IF's" are brought up with Jeter conversations. I am a Yankees hater. But i am a Jeter fan. Why? because i know greatness when i see it. Derek Jeter and AROD are both HOF'ers. But AROD and Jeter are miles and miles away from each other when it comes to hitting in clutch situations. And hitting in clutch situations makes you a great player.

Well said. AROD may have more talent, but someone like Jeter is the guy everyone would want on their TEAM.

[3arod13]

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AROD may have more talent, but someone like Jeter is the guy everyone would want on their TEAM.

That's funny. Nice guy over talent. Hope you don't own your own business.

[Dewey2007]

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I don't like either player but after seeing the new Guitar Heroes commercial with Arod in it playing guitar in his boxers I would definitely have to say Jeter.

For one, you would never see Jeter in a stupid commercial like that. He's the captain of the Yankees for a reason. He's got 4 rings, he gets big hits in the postseason, he's going to get 3,000 hits which no other Yankee has ever done and he's done it all in the media capital of the world. Like Old Blue Eyes said "If you can make it here you can make it anywhere" so Jeter would have been a star on any other team too.

[BULBUS]

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That's funny. Nice guy over talent. Hope you don't own your own business.

Who said anything about Jeter being a "nice guy"????? I guess I should have been more specific.

AROD may have more talent, but someone like Jeter with talent, leadership, heart, performs in the clutch, knows what and when to say something, is the guy everyone would want on their team.

[jetersbatboy]

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Jeter is CLUTCH!!!!!! Being able to produce in the moment that its needed is greatness. Arod maybe the best statistical baseball player when its all said and done, but he needs his defining moment. Jeter has about 10 of those.

[kellsox]

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Jeter is CLUTCH!!!!!! Being able to produce in the moment that its needed is greatness. Arod maybe the best statistical baseball player when its all said and done, but he needs his defining moment. Jeter has about 10 of those.

Can't believe you forgot these defining moments...

[AWA85]

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http://www.nypost.com/seven/11042008/sports/yankees/worst_fielder_in_majors_136772.htm

I wouldn't read this Jeter fans, you guys seem as sensitive as Arod

[Yankwood]

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http://www.nypost.com/seven/11042008...ors_136772.htm

I wouldn't read this Jeter fans, you guys seem as sensitive as Arod

Numbers run amok. There is no way that any team can win multiple championships with the WORST fielder in baseball at SS. Any Strat-O-Matic player can tell you that........

[3arod13]

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Let's end this madness. They are both great players and future Hall of Famers. There's no question, Jeter is well-liked more than Arod.

Ready for next season!!!!

[3arod13]

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What is more expensive Jeter,or Arod items? HENMICK44@OPTONLINE.NET

Arod items. The market is flooded with Arod stuff. Personally, I think many of the high prices are ridiculous.

[Yankwood]

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Arod items. The market is flooded with Arod stuff. Personally, I think many of the high prices are ridiculous.

?---If the market is flooded with Arod items, then why are they more expensive? And on a further note, the Arod, Jeter debate will never end. It's not a bad thing. It gives us something to talk about in the off-season. My father, father-in-law and uncles still argue Ted Williams or DiMaggio. Their fathers argued Cobb or Ruth... When I was a kid, we argued Mays or Mantle. I think it's great as long as it doesn't get mean. It's like arguing Cadillac or Lincoln. Alot of personal preference. This isn't a Chevy Vega or AMC Pacer kind of argument. Everyone who says either one is overrated or sucks would take them on their team in a heartbeat, in spite of what they say...

[3arod13]

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?---If the market is flooded with Arod items, then why are they more expensive? And on a further note, the Arod, Jeter debate will never end. It's not a bad thing. It gives us something to talk about in the off-season. My father, father-in-law and uncles still argue Ted Williams or DiMaggio. Their fathers argued Cobb or Ruth... When I was a kid, we argued Mays or Mantle. I think it's great as long as it doesn't get mean. It's like arguing Cadillac or Lincoln. Alot of personal preference. This isn't a Chevy Vega or AMC Pacer kind of argument. Everyone who says either one is overrated or sucks would take them on their team in a heartbeat, in spite of what they say...

Those arguements I can understand. But comparing Jeter to Arod? Com'on. Not even close.

[cjclong]

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3arod13, I'm a little disappointed. You and I have both taken up for ARod at times when other people were knocking him. I know what you think of ARod, but that does not make Jeter overrated. Seems you are doing the same thing by tearing Jeter down that you don't like people doing to ARod. Sure ARod will probably have hitting numbers Jeter will not match, at least as far as homeruns are concerned. Would the Yankees have gone to and won the four World Series without Jeter. Some of them possibly, all of them doubtful. Jeter is a solid player who gets the job done and has played better under pressure than ARod. Was Mattingly a better player than Jeter. More power, and maybe at the peak of his career a better hitter. But how do you compare a very good hitting shortstop with a guy who can only play first base. In my mind the shortstop, because of the limited number of people who can play the postion , gets the vote as best player.