AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

[CollectGU]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Wasn't Juan investigating this and getting back to them? His COA is with the item....I'm sure Juan will inform them if he hasn't already.

Regards,
Dave

[mvandor]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

The 44 on the back of the lid in the last pic IS in a similar font to the AMI lid isn't it?

[CollectGU]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Mvandor,

Nice catch...they look to be the same font. Thereare still issues with the helmet but the number font does not appear to be one of them based on that photo.

Dave

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Mvandor,

Nice catch...they look to be the same font. Thereare still issues with the helmet but the number font does not appear to be one of them based on that photo.

Dave

oh stop it dave. so there's canseco out there not only wearing the wrong style helmet but also the wrong stickers because the jays ran out of "4" stickers that day.

listen, in '98, the jays wore their old pre-97 stickers. that photo of canseco you're referring to looks like he's more than likely wearing those pre-97 stickers that all the rest of the team wore. they wore old style stickers on their new style helmets. i'm guessing they were just using up a glut of old stock. certainly seems more reasonable than them actually running out of "4" stickers. mvandor's catch only shows that he's not wearing the newer stickers but the team only started using those in '99/2000, after canseco was long off the team. check out the pre-97 stickers.
there's no catch here. if there is, i'd say that the photos show that the AMI "4" clearly isn't the same font as seen in the pic you refer to because of how much the red circled portion sticks out.



the number font is as much an issue as ever.

rudy.

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

1. photo #3 is the canseco photo you guys say is a match to the AMI helmet

2. in saying "definitely not these" and "definitely this", i was being sarcastic.

rudy.

[CollectGU]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Rudy,

No one is saying it is a photo match we were just saying that refutes Howard's statement - " at no time, in my memory, during any year in the 90s and into 2000+, did the jays ever wear standard block number stickers like those seen on the AMI helmet" Thre a ton of issues with this helmet and I wouln't touch it myself and don't even thibk it should be auctioned Hopefully we'll here back from Juan on this as it is his COA and name attached to it right now and if I were him, I would ask it be pulled...

Regards,
Dave

[hblakewolf]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Rudy,

No one is saying it is a photo match we were just saying that refutes Howard's statement - " at no time, in my memory, during any year in the 90s and into 2000+, did the jays ever wear standard block number stickers like those seen on the AMI helmet" Thre a ton of issues with this helmet and I wouln't touch it myself and don't even thibk it should be auctioned Hopefully we'll here back from Juan on this as it is his COA and name attached to it right now and if I were him, I would ask it be pulled...

Regards,
Dave

Dave-

I suggest you get your facts correct before quoting me or other forum readers in your posts. The quote you mention is made by Rudy, not me, in his previous post, #14.

Good work as always,
Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@comcast.net

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Rudy,

No one is saying it is a photo match we were just saying that refutes Howard's statement - " at no time, in my memory, during any year in the 90s and into 2000+, did the jays ever wear standard block number stickers like those seen on the AMI helmet" Thre a ton of issues with this helmet and I wouln't touch it myself and don't even thibk it should be auctioned Hopefully we'll here back from Juan on this as it is his COA and name attached to it right now and if I were him, I would ask it be pulled...

Regards,
Dave

dave o'brien

i know you're not saying it's a photo match. you're saying it's a style match and what i'm saying is that it isn't. the statement you attributed to howard above was made by myself and i stand by it. the stickers in the photo you're referring to are the old, pre-97 font. the photo is perfectly correct as i've seen dozens from 1998 showing the jays using their old, pre-97 stickers. as i said, i imagine they had boxes full of those helmet stickers and were just using them up.

the fact that canseco gave it to juan makes this thing a real mystery. if it was an uber-temporary helmet meant only to sustain canseco for a couple of games while they procured a proper one, then why even bother putting numbers on the back? like jose would have to know that of all of the improper pre-1997 helmets being worn by the jays in 1998, that one was his? and when they went to label it, they used improper stickers as well?

dave, you're BFFs with victor. any insight into why he's not pulled it so far? is he letting it ride entirely on the provenance?

rudy.

[CollectGU]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Howard, sorry about that. Rudy, I honestly don't know and won't speculate. I would suggest that you pick up the phone and call the toll free number tomorrow and speak directly with them to get an answer. Have you e-mailed your buddy Juan to get an update on his research into this?

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

by the way, here's how the font for the number 4 should look..this is a pre-97 font and the stickers the jays wore on their 1998 helmets were exact reproductions:



rudy.

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

helmet's still up. 2 bids. juan are you going to let this thing sell?

rudy.

[GrndSlm]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Ive informed AMI about some of our concerns but its not up to me to pull this item. I will follow up tomorrow.

thanks
Juan

[kingjammy24]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

helmet has been removed from auction.

rudy.

[whatupyos]

Re: AMI: "1998 Canseco helmet"

Conrats and awesome work to all who helped get this item taken down!!