Dr. J. Game Shoes

[jondris]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

I also add that the buyer was happy as could be with those shoes.
Greg

Was he informed that they were game issued when purchased from auction only to be reclassified as game used ?

It is clear as day what is going on , Ray Charles could have clearly seen the embellsihment going on

Sorry ...just the facts

[33bird]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

I also add that the buyer was happy as could be with those shoes.
Greg

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

This is like BUYERS BEWARE and you wonder why this industry is having issues .

What a crock in regards to lightly used

jondris
The seller said he would refund the buyer if requested. What more should he do?
What wording should he use to list the shoes?
You realize that these Docs are far more rare than a pair of Melos or Bron Brons?

[jondris]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

Don't believe they were misrepresented. I had them at LIGHT use, which I believe they have. There were creases in the toes and some other marks that led me to believe, when I got them, that they were used-not issued. Maybe practice or for a game or two, but they're definately not just issued or right out of the box. I told the winner if he doesn't agree with me he can return them. I have a 7 day refund on all the auctions I run.
Greg

This is like BUYERS BEWARE and you wonder why this industry is having issues .

What a crock in regards to lightly used

[jetersbatboy]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

DAAAAAAAAM!!!!! Otis, I am a baseball guy and am jealous of your DR J shoes.... Wish I had me a pair!!!

[33bird]

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It's all good Otis (greg). No hard feelings here. I'll let you guys know what the buyer decides. They definately don't look like your great shoes but there are some signs of lite use. I have 40 pairs of gamers and I think I have a good idea of shoes used and ones right out of the box. I could be wrong. I have nothing from Grey Flannel or any other auction house. I'll let the buyer decide on this pair.
Greg

[Ozric]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

Again, I am not saying I agree or disagree, but GFC is notorious for auctioning items that have "light" use... It's just way to funny if they actually missed any use on these since the "milk" the light use category.

[otismalibu]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

There ain't no good guys, there ain't no bad guys.
There's only me and 33 and we just disagree.

[Ozric]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

I guess the question I have is whether or not the GFC letter or a copy of the letter was sent to the new owner. If it was not sent, was the discrepancy then fully disclosed to the new buyer as the auction description does not reference any discrepancy. Not saying anyone is right or wrong.

[otismalibu]

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Sounds like sourgrapes from Otis Malibu that he didn't win them, because he contacted me with interest in them before they ended.

Actually, I first contacted you to ask if you were going to honor the high bid regardless of what it was (auction was still around $100). If a guy will add some use to the description, you never know what else might be done to help make his number.

And then I told you I'd bid about $300 based on the fact that I didn't think they were used and neither did the guy that sold them to you.

No sour grapes. I can get unused shoes at Footlocker.

[33bird]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

Show me the Grey Flannel or auction house they originated from with pictures? Never knew any of that info. Just bought them from another collector on ebay. I've shared this info with the winner and they can return them for full refund if they don't agree with me. No harm no foul. I have perfect feedback as a buyer and seller and have never had a problem in here either. Sounds like sourgrapes from Otis Malibu that he didn't win them, because he contacted me with interest in them before they ended.

[otismalibu]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

And I guess GFC and masauction missed the light use on these too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ELVIN-HAYES-GAME-USED-NIKE-ROCKETS-SHOES_W0QQitemZ170300371639QQihZ007QQcategoryZ50135QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[33bird]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

Like I said: I think they show some use, if buyer doesn't agree, full refund. I'd be happy to have them back if I'm wrong.

[1986&2004Bosox]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

33 bird that is a very slippery slope. If something has been sold previously by a major auction house as issued unless you can provide documentation to the contrary IE photo or video match IMO I dont' think we as collectors can or should reinvent the wheel and say they show light use. I realize that peoples standards differ but the fact of the matter is they were sold as issued and unless you have proof to the contrary I fell they should have been resold in the same manner.

[33bird]

Re: Dr. J. Game Shoes

Don't believe they were misrepresented. I had them at LIGHT use, which I believe they have. There were creases in the toes and some other marks that led me to believe, when I got them, that they were used-not issued. Maybe practice or for a game or two, but they're definately not just issued or right out of the box. I told the winner if he doesn't agree with me he can return them. I have a 7 day refund on all the auctions I run.
Greg