GFC Joe Morris Giants

[gwh11]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

The names were screened on a nameplate which was sewn on.
Guy

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

BTPH,
Here's a 1987 Don Majkowski Packers jersey with the "crown" tag. Also used by QB Willie Gillus for the "strike" games. Even though they've been removed, you can still see where the different NOBs were located.
Guy

Not trying to disagree. I would like to know for sure. Did the '87 Packers use nameplates or have the NOB sewn on directly?

[gwh11]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

BTPH,
Here's a 1987 Don Majkowski Packers jersey with the "crown" tag. Also used by QB Willie Gillus for the "strike" games. Even though they've been removed, you can still see where the different NOBs were located.
Guy

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

Laughable.

Digusting...pathetic...shameful...but laughable.

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

Good point--the exclusive tag was indeed used on retail jerseys.

The "crown" tag started to make it's appearance in 1987, though.

Guy

For my own personal reference, do you have examples of the larger crown tag used in 1987?

THANKS!

[gwh11]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

Good point--the exclusive tag was indeed used on retail jerseys.

The "crown" tag started to make it's appearance in 1987, though.

Guy

[both-teams-played-hard]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

The "crown" MacGregor Sand-Knit tag was adopted in 1988. Every Giants MacGregor Sand Knit tag I've ever seen has a year tag. The "thicker" numeral fonts from previous seasons that are pictured are Champion brand.
The Exclusive tag can be seen on retail jerseys also.

[Eric]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

the joe morris jersey has been pulled

[gwh11]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

Eric,
For what it's worth, you would not see this variety of Sand-Knit tagging on a jersey manufactured 1982-84. You would expect to see some sort of Medalist Sand-Knit tagging, not this kind of MacGregor Sand-Knit tagging.
Guy

[Eric]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

i actually did send TJ an email about the Joe Morris font question. I asked if they had any pictures of the font style in a game.

He has answered my other questions very quickly, so I look forward to hearing something soon.
Eric

[BULBUS]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

As a Giants collector, I have never seen numbers like that. Here is a previous thread with a few nice jerseys. There isnt an '88, but there is an '87 and '89 that have the thicker font and different tagging:

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=19521&page=2&highlight=giants+jersey

I have seen retail jerseys with the "Designed Exclusively For..." tag and I would say this is a retail jersey.

[hblakewolf]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

Eric-

The following information is posted on the Grey Flannel Auction website:

Except in very few instances can the provenance of game-used items and autographed items be definitely traced and attributed to an athlete or individual, even when a letter from a team is provided. The following paragraphs discuss the processes used by Grey Flannel Auctions to authenticate lots in our auction. As a result of those processes, based on the information available to Grey Flannel Auctions, we are very comfortable in stating that "in our opinion" the items in our auction are authentic. Therefore, every lot in this auction will be sold "As Is," no exceptions.

All of our jersey authenticators are under the incredibly discerning eye of Nick Coppola, who has been collecting jerseys over 30 years and has carefully and separately looked at every game-used jersey in this auction. Our jersey authenticating team includes Richard Russek, who has been in the hobby for 20 years and T.J. Favilla who worked at Yankee Stadium for 4 years. We will note in the lot descriptions if other letters come in addition to ours.

Our many years of experience have led us to choose all of the above experts. We believe they are the very best that exist. There is very little science to authenticating in this hobby, mostly opinion. If you disagree, we warmly invite you to make arrangements to have your authenticator come inspect any and all items you are interested in before the auction.

Have you contacted Richard, Nick or T.J. with your concerns? If possible, I'd suggest communicating directly with Nick, as the above information notes, "...has carefully and separately looked at every game-used jersey in this auction". I'd suggest forwarding your findings and photos and seek answers as to what they used to determine the authenticity and year of use for this particular jersey in question (or as noted, their "opinion"). Based on the 54 years of combined expereince of the three Grey Flannel workers, certainly they must have insight that will confirm the legitimacy of this particular jersey.


Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@comcast.net

[suave1477]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

THIS IS A PICTURE FROM 1984

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[suave1477]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

Eric have you cheked uspresswire? they have quite a few 80's/70's related Giants pictures and they all seem to be the thick fonts on the Jerseys

THIS IS A PICTURE FROM 1981

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[DoctorLoomis]

Re: GFC Joe Morris Giants

My expertise is definitely NOT in jerseys of this era....but from what you guys have shown and stated, I wouldnt touch this jersey with a 10 foot pole.....lol.