Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

[mvandor]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

If jersey is what you want to talk about, why drag the english stuff with it.
Your english can use some correction too.

Their are 5 different letter that can go after the year and size tagging,

• "Q"=Quarterback, usually meaning open Sleeve for QB
• "S"=Specialty, most receivers, corners and safeties in the NFL prefer this cut, short sleeves
• "L"=Linebacker, and not linemen. Different team have different cut for linebackers. Very short to NO sleeve at all depending on the team.
• "O"=Offensive linemen. Both Offensive and Defensive Linemen have no Sleeve on their jersey, if the linemen lift their arms up you could see their armpit
• "D"=Defensive Linemen. between the two is spacing.

That T.O. jersey has a "L" with the Tagging and Sleeves tailor like a Eagles Linebackers.
Look on Gettys and you'll see T.O. wears nothing but "S" cut with the Eagles, then look up someone like Jeremiah Trotter with his Sleeves.

That jersey was originally a linebacker jersey, had the name and Numbers strip off, and owens name and number put on.

Next time do your research, study and know your facts before posting something that you have very little knowledge of.

You can question me about Basketball jersey and stuff, or even Baseball Stuff.
Thats fine with me, cuz i don't know Jack about basketball and baseball stuff, and you won't catch me posting anything about basketball or baseball.

NFL Jersey is what i'm good at.

And for Dr.Loomis he Probably has a friend that work for Ripon and knows the secret stuff, who knows.

Perhaps I can tap your unlimited expertise then. Why would a Bengals WR wear a Linebacker cut jersey? And exactly why all the pomposity - I don't believe we've ever crossed paths before so what's with the arrogance and off putting approach?

[NFLJerseyCollector]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Then Again, that jersey could be one of those NFL Auction Jersey.

[NFLJerseyCollector]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Clearly you have yet to master the english language as well as rudimentary people skills.

Do you care to give us YOUR opinion on the T.O. jersey? What do the letters next to the size tag on game jerseys mean to you? Regarding your Grey Flannel comments, have you read any of the recent threads here re: Grey Flannel?

Then you can educate me on what the amount I pay for items from NFL Auctions has to do with this jersey or where you get off accusing me of converrting my acquisitions into fraudulent game used items?

If jersey is what you want to talk about, why drag the english stuff with it.
Your english can use some correction too.

Their are 5 different letter that can go after the year and size tagging,

• "Q"=Quarterback, usually meaning open Sleeve for QB
• "S"=Specialty, most receivers, corners and safeties in the NFL prefer this cut, short sleeves
• "L"=Linebacker, and not linemen. Different team have different cut for linebackers. Very short to NO sleeve at all depending on the team.
• "O"=Offensive linemen. Both Offensive and Defensive Linemen have no Sleeve on their jersey, if the linemen lift their arms up you could see their armpit
• "D"=Defensive Linemen. between the two is spacing.

That T.O. jersey has a "L" with the Tagging and Sleeves tailor like a Eagles Linebackers.
Look on Gettys and you'll see T.O. wears nothing but "S" cut with the Eagles, then look up someone like Jeremiah Trotter with his Sleeves.

That jersey was originally a linebacker jersey, had the name and Numbers strip off, and owens name and number put on.

Next time do your research, study and know your facts before posting something that you have very little knowledge of.

You can question me about Basketball jersey and stuff, or even Baseball Stuff.
Thats fine with me, cuz i don't know Jack about basketball and baseball stuff, and you won't catch me posting anything about basketball or baseball.

NFL Jersey is what i'm good at.

And for Dr.Loomis he Probably has a friend that work for Ripon and knows the secret stuff, who knows.

[mvandor]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Hunt Auction won't deny any item for consignment, Its strictly revenue for them (they'll take just about anything).

Grey Flannel on the other hand, will never except a jersey like that for consignment.

That's why the owner of that jersey have it up on Ebay.

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mvandor=It clearly tells me that you don't know Jack about jersey after what you just say.

So what you acquire a Antonio Gates jersey for $600 and other jersey before from NFL Auction, Which you over bid for.

That doesn't make you an Expert or anywhere close to it.

Your probably one of those people, that takes an NFL Auction Authentic jersey and turn it around and sell it as Game Issued Jersey on Ebay or have your buddy do it for you.


About about these photo, from www.Josportsco.com

Do you see the "L" after the 04-44 tagging, For sure your not there yet.

Dr.Loomis, Please educate them, and forget about catching the Boogie-man.

Clearly you have yet to master the english language as well as rudimentary people skills.

Do you care to give us YOUR opinion on the T.O. jersey? What do the letters next to the size tag on game jerseys mean to you? Regarding your Grey Flannel comments, have you read any of the recent threads here re: Grey Flannel?

Then you can educate me on what the amount I pay for items from NFL Auctions has to do with this jersey or where you get off accusing me of converrting my acquisitions into fraudulent game used items?

[NFLJerseyCollector]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Hunt Auction won't deny any item for consignment, Its strictly revenue for them (they'll take just about anything).

Grey Flannel on the other hand, will never except a jersey like that for consignment.

That's why the owner of that jersey have it up on Ebay.

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I can only ask this.

Has ANY board member EVER seen a WR game used jersey tagged 'L' in the collar - denoting a lineman's jersey?

Please also remember TO has been one of the most visible, highly photographed players during his NFL tenure. Don't you think there'd be a pic on Getty SOMEWHERE showing him with these stock pro-cut shortened sleeves?

mvandor=It clearly tells me that you don't know Jack about jersey after what you just say.

So what you acquire a Antonio Gates jersey for $600 and other jersey before from NFL Auction, Which you over bid for.

That doesn't make you an Expert or anywhere close to it.

Your probably one of those people, that takes an NFL Auction Authentic jersey and turn it around and sell it as Game Issued Jersey on Ebay or have your buddy do it for you.


About about these photo, from www.Josportsco.com

Do you see the "L" after the 04-44 tagging, For sure your not there yet.

Dr.Loomis, Please educate them, and forget about catching the Boogie-man.

[ironmanfan]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Here is a link to the Hunt Auction...sold for a whopping $400 !

http://www.huntauctions.com/online/i...m=401&lot_qual=

[mvandor]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

I can only ask this.

Has ANY board member EVER seen a WR game used jersey tagged 'L' in the collar - denoting a lineman's jersey?

Please also remember TO has been one of the most visible, highly photographed players during his NFL tenure. Don't you think there'd be a pic on Getty SOMEWHERE showing him with these stock pro-cut shortened sleeves?

[sonic]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

For what its worth (T.O. could have gained weight), I own a legit T.O. Cowboys gamer (Prova/Steiner) and it's a size 46. Anyone know for sure if he wore a 44 as an Eagle?

[mvandor]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Just to let everyone know, I have had correspondence with the seller, and he seems to be very honest and forthcoming. The jersey came from Hunt Auctions, and I personally have dealt with them many times in the past with great results. I have even consigned in the past with their company. Bob also will stand behind the jersey with 100% refund if you choose to have the jersey authenticated by a reputable source. While I feel the forum is an important resource and a great source of information, we must refrain from a rush to judgement until there is strong documentation to a shirt being problematic. Just for arguement sake, who is to say the shirt was'nt a special request by the player, and used only for a short period of time. Im not saying to rush to bid on it....just something to think about. Skip

There really isn't a plausible explanation for a WR to wear a lineman's jersey in a game that I can think of, and certainly no photo evidence of this remarkable oddity has been uncovered.

I have yet to hear from selller myself.

[rinkrelics]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Just to let everyone know, I have had correspondence with the seller, and he seems to be very honest and forthcoming. The jersey came from Hunt Auctions, and I personally have dealt with them many times in the past with great results. I have even consigned in the past with their company. Bob also will stand behind the jersey with 100% refund if you choose to have the jersey authenticated by a reputable source. While I feel the forum is an important resource and a great source of information, we must refrain from a rush to judgement until there is strong documentation to a shirt being problematic. Just for arguement sake, who is to say the shirt was'nt a special request by the player, and used only for a short period of time. Im not saying to rush to bid on it....just something to think about. Skip

[trsent]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Dr Loomis -

Sorry if you got your feelings hurt by my comment or that of jondris



But the statements you made are pretty bold and in MY Opinion could get your 'friend' in a LOT of hot water if anyone from Ripon saw this thread:






That is ALL that jondris and myself were questioning.


In a nutshell, you claim that your 'friend' is the EMPLOYEE, but YOU have DIRECT ACCESS to CONFIDENTIAL Company Info.


ALL that I was questioning is either you or your friend putting his job into jeopardy if he is allowing you to see - or giving you so called CONFIDENTIAL (again, YOUR term) information.


As far as the jersey - or T.O. for that matter - I could care less. I only collect baseball, but I read the other forums just to see what's going on in the hobby with the auction houses and auction sites when items are called into question.


- Chris

Chris - Doogie Howser has all sorts of inside information.

[xpress34]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Whatever you say. I am done with this thread. I try to educate people and some of you simply will not listen. Tell you what...buy the jersey. Bid till it hurts. From now on I will keep my evidence and knowledge to myself.

Dr Loomis -

Sorry if you got your feelings hurt by my comment or that of jondris

All due respect your info is obviously NOT confidential .....
I wonder how many others have your so called information

But the statements you made are pretty bold and in MY Opinion could get your 'friend' in a LOT of hot water if anyone from Ripon saw this thread:

I will tell you how I can PROVE it. I know an employee of Ripon PERSONALLY. I have access to what teams actually order for the players to wear on the field. I know exactly...spec for spec...what was ordered for T.O.. Thats how I know. If you want to but that bad jersey then please spend on.

However, when it comes to jerseys made by Ripon, I have DIRECT confidential info on EXACTLY what teams order. You can not get more expert info than that.

That is ALL that jondris and myself were questioning.


In a nutshell, you claim that your 'friend' is the EMPLOYEE, but YOU have DIRECT ACCESS to CONFIDENTIAL Company Info.


ALL that I was questioning is either you or your friend putting his job into jeopardy if he is allowing you to see - or giving you so called CONFIDENTIAL (again, YOUR term) information.


As far as the jersey - or T.O. for that matter - I could care less. I only collect baseball, but I read the other forums just to see what's going on in the hobby with the auction houses and auction sites when items are called into question.


- Chris

[mvandor]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

BTW, I DID email these concerns to the seller via ebay's message system.

[mvandor]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

Good catch (yes I can give credit where credit is due, Joel).

That jersey bears the characteristics of the TYPICAL NFL Auctions sold pro-cut for a skill position player, although size and added length vary on their sold items. I'm looking at the Gates I won last week, and the only real diff appears to be the size (44 versus 48) and the amount of added length (6" versus 4").

Sorry, I meant to say lineman cut confirming Joel's comment, the 'L' in the neck tag would confirm that (as I was reminded the other day during a mental lapse in another thread).

[mvandor]

Re: Terrell Owens Gamer On eBay...What a Joke

I have a question that I would like answered.

Is it possible that the extra length is not a reason for concern but that the sleeves are linemen cut sleeves and that should be more of a concern?

The seller still needs to be contacted but I am pretty sure there are issues with the sleeves that no one has mentioned.

Good catch (yes I can give credit where credit is due, Joel).

That jersey bears the characteristics of the TYPICAL NFL Auctions sold pro-cut for a skill position player, although size and added length vary on their sold items. I'm looking at the Gates I won last week, and the only real diff appears to be the size (44 versus 48) and the amount of added length (6" versus 4").