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The exterior tag shows good use with "PROPERTY OF LOS ANGELES DODGERS 2008" faded a little while the interior "0063" washing tag makes it look like a brand new jersey. Atleast one washing could make the tag curl, but as you can see, the picture of the "0063" tag was taken without anyone holding it out to un-curl it. Besides all of that, there's no Steiner letter or MLB hologram, which you would expect to see for a Manny Ramirez Dodgers jersey.
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Re: Manny Ramirez Dodgers Jersey in Historic Auctions
i guess my 2 cents differs. i don't believe the exterior tag shows good use. i can't see any fading. if there's a miniscule amount it might be as a result of the camera/lighting or a result of the printer that printed the tag. i also don't believe tag curling would start after 1 wash anymore than it currently is. try the experiment out yourself...many pants come with similar paper tags (my eddie bauer khakis do). get a pair..toss 'em in the wash once. see if the tag curls.
finally, sean mahoney of steiner has said that the reason steiner didn't receive any ramirez dodgers shirts was because ramirez took them all and didn't give steiner any.
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For comparison, Ron at Calif. Sports Investments has home and road Manny's for sale:
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there don't appear to be any steiner or mlb stickers on any of ron's 2008 dodgers shirts. looks like ramirez wasn't the only one to give his shirts to another marketing outfit.
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a couple months ago, GFC had a 2008 road ramirez for sale on their website. no MLB or steiner sticker.
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[B]There seems to be a lot of Manny home Dodgers jersey floating around.
Manny played a few months for the Dodgers in 2008 and I bet you he used only one home and away jersey for the rest of 2008 season, those jerseys you see were most likely hanging in his locker and did not see any game use, that's why the tags are so crisp.
I was offered a signed Manny Dodgers home jersey last year with a 2" extra length tag, the tags were crisp and the autograph was his fast version located on the back above his number, I passed on the jersey as I don't think it was game worn.
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Re: Manny Ramirez Dodgers Jersey in Historic Auctions
I am familiar with all of the jerseys being spoken of here.
Ron's are bad. Even if he thinks it's good and received it from a "reputable" Dodger source he thinks is a friend.
So are all the rest.
This Historic Auctions one is a laugher too.
Manny keeps his game used stuff. I think it goes to family, friends, and if he decides down the road, maybe a piece or two to auction....but that's not happened with his Dodger stuff.
Look at the jersey in the Historic Auctions. Here's all you need to know...
The spacing between the letters on the back are too close....at the bottom, and all the way up between them. This is THE classic "giveaway" when you see these jerseys. Also, the "R" and the "Z", the first and last letters, respectively, are not properly placed in respect to the number "99" on the back. They almost line up with the outside of the numbers, maybe extending past them just a minute amount.
For comparison's sake, check out any of the pictures on getty images of Manny, which shows his nob, and you'll see the difference. There is more "white jersey" space between the "I" on Manny gamers than the thickness of the "I" itself, between the "M" and the "R" on either side of it......that is not the case on ALL of these other jerseys. It is not happenstance people, it is a consistent phenomenon on all of these so-called "Manny gamers" being sold out in the public.
These offered albatrosses are NOT made for game use. They are NOT of the same quality in placement of the name on the back, instead intentionally set a bit closer, maybe for identification of this fact.
So the real question is.....who is supplying these dupes to the public? Are they maybe being ordered by the Dodger organization as "giveaways" to special baseball people, or their families? Are they some kind of a marketing tool, placed on display at certain events, which happen to end up in the public's hands misrepresented at that point as Manny gamers?
It's a mystery....I hope one day gets solved, because people are getting duped here.Comment
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Suicide,
Good eye, I completely agree with you on the nameplate and numbers.
Also, think about it, if your a MLB player wouldn't you want to wear the same broken in jersey for games?
Also, I have seen pics of Manny's Red Sox pants were you can see multiple sew repair stitching on the backside, he uses the same pants until they cant be worn any longer, I would think it would be the same for his jerseys.
These jerseys are a joke!
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Here are a few pictures for your comparison.....you be the judge.
It becomes fairly easy to see the spacing difference between the letters...
The first picture is the Historic Auctions jersey Kyle brought in question....The rest are Manny gamersAttached FilesComment
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I asked a guy who was selling one of these to send me a picture proving it was "photo matched" as he claimed.....here's what he sent me....Attached FilesComment
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Are all of Manny's Dodgers jersey coming from Manny himself? For what it worth, it seems to me that Manny, whenever he can and without being fined by MLB, pulls one side of his jersey out and that side happens to be the side of the jersey where the tags are located for all to see. Is this his way of saying, hey here's what the tags look like if you want one of my jerseys, I have them and you can photo-match them if you want. Didn't Barry Bonds walk around in similar fashion showcasing the Bonds label?
Just my opinion,
Jim
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Taking a closer look at the front, more problems.
The first picture below is the Histroic Auctions Manny "gamer", front side.
The script is all wrong, being too skinny in quite a few locations. This is best illustrated, given the front shot of the jersey supplied by Historic, by looking at the bottom of the "e" as the lines cross over. Compare it to the last picture I posted...
The second button from the top of the jersey is also improperly positioned in relation to the top of the second blue "d" in Dodgers. Look at the pictures I posted up close of the Manny jerseys.
Lastly, I noticed the underlining of the script "Dodgers" appears to carry a bit too far under the first "D" of Dodgers. The one offered by Histori appears to end almost totally under the "D", as on the real games it doesn't make it to the spot where the "D" starts.
All very easy observations....just pointing to all of the problems with these "gamers" of Manny's that appear. I haven't even bothered to look at the home and away jerseys on California Sports Investments site, because the name on the back has the same problems as this Historic one offered, so it would be just an exercise I don't need to do. But I'm sure if I did, the front would have these same issues too.Attached FilesComment
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I could keep going...
Look where the first "D" in Dodgers crosses and attaches to the "o", the second letter of the Dodgers.....they don't match up. On the real Dodgers gamers, they run into the "o" in a lower position, and also, when the "o" takes off to cross over and move onto the next letter, it looks too squared off as it goes through the "o".
I could go on, but suffice it to say the script is all wrong. Not going to find this Historic Auctions jersey on Dodger Stadium grass.....unless a fan is wearing it and runs onto the field.
Then it would get some real game use as he would be dragged off by security....Comment
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