1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

[mattmueller]

Re: 1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

Now that is interesting.

[rj_lucas]

Re: 1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

No reference to strip tag in this listing:

https://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?lot=542&auctionid=905

Rick
rickjlucas@gmail.com

[mattmueller]

Re: 1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

Rick:

The Lelands jersey was apparently manufactured "special" for the one game only, has many oddities - numbers on front are not typical for 1997 jerseys, JR patch in French, worn for only 2 plate appearances....

Still, I think we are finding the strip tag is atypical. But very interesting two of them exist, both set 2, both authenticated by Grey Flannel. Maybe I will be nice about it and ask Grey Flannel what they know about that type of tagging after all.

Also of note, the same seller has now also listed a 1986 A's Home McGwire jersey, combo with a Sosa 1989 road jersey. LOA on the McGwire also from Grey Flannel in February 1995.

[kingjammy24]

Re: 1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

Also of note, the same seller has now also listed a 1986 A's Home McGwire jersey, combo with a Sosa 1989 road jersey. LOA on the McGwire also from Grey Flannel in February 1995.

the 1986 mcgwire is homemade. the "K" is a dead giveaway.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=20296

rudy.

[kingjammy24]

Re: 1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

the 1986 mcgwire is homemade. the "K" is a dead giveaway.

http://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=20296

rudy.

also see this thread:

https://www.gameuseduniverse.com/vb_forum/showthread.php?t=21522

rudy.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: 1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

Hello mattmueller,

Hope all is well.

I just wanted to check in with you. Are you still trying to do research on the strip tagged 1997 McGwire "gamer"?

If so, please.....read the posts issued by the fine gentlemen here again..... the light will eventually go on.

Look at the evidence. Look at the circumstantial evidence. Look, using logic and common sense, at the consistencies in what has been pointed out to you.....and use those consistencies, coupled with your common sense and logic, and draw your own conclusion which is reasonable.

The jersey tagging is a red herring.....it stinks no matter what direction the wind is blowing.

It is MY OPINION that the results of your reasonable conclusion will be consistent with almost every single other thread here on the forum, at least in the past 9 months, that Grey Flannel letters are, to be kind, their "opinions" and nothing more, and more to the point, worthless pieces of wasted tree remains printed to support their ongoing efforts to separate honest unknowing collectors from their hard earned cash.

The only thing that solidifies this point more concretely is......Richards signature at the bottom........IN MY opinion

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: 1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

The decision made by the judge IS legally binding, but only because both parties sign a contract prior to the taping stating they agree to be bound by the outcome.

All that said, I still get a kick out of reading about that episode involving Grey Flannel. Lest I get accused of hijacking this thread I'll post this scan of another 1997 McGwire jersey, from a November 1998 Oregon Trail Sports Auction, also featuring a LOA from guess who.

Rick
rickjlucas@gmail.com

Rick,

I will start by stating you are correct in your statements. But I'd like to add one small fact you left out...

The "binding agreement" signed and agreed to by both parties becomes what the show makes of it.....as mentioned (for ratings, for drama, etc.).
But make no mistake, the RESULTS of the decision by the judge is paid 100% by the show.....hence, the reason Richard Russek agreed to go on the show in the first place. He knew no matter what the decision was.... it wasn't going to be paid for by him or his company.

Amazing as it is, he let his company take a heavy blow in it's reputation JUST so he could get out of something his company put in writing and was responsible for (I think in the Judge's own words with emphasis....."GROSS negligence").


Nice.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: 1997 McGwire Cards Road - ebay

Rick:

The Lelands jersey was apparently manufactured "special" for the one game only, has many oddities - numbers on front are not typical for 1997 jerseys, JR patch in French, worn for only 2 plate appearances....

Still, I think we are finding the strip tag is atypical. But very interesting two of them exist, both set 2, both authenticated by Grey Flannel. Maybe I will be nice about it and ask Grey Flannel what they know about that type of tagging after all.

Also of note, the same seller has now also listed a 1986 A's Home McGwire jersey, combo with a Sosa 1989 road jersey. LOA on the McGwire also from Grey Flannel in February 1995.

Matt,

Do yourself a favor........don't.

Let it go.

Their knowledge is that of "an opinion".

Why add yourself to the growing list of banned members who can no longer bid on their auctions?

Just a thought....


Steve