e-bay deal question

[ndevlin]

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Lets say I have a Mickey Mantle game used bat for sale and I 100% guarantee its authentic. Well, the new owner sends it in to get it authenticated and they say they cannot because it doesnt match up to Mantle's characteristics, but one of his teammates, like Harry Bright.

Now, would you want a authentic Mantle bat used by Harry Bright? I know I wouldnt for the money one would probably drop on it. Because its not a game used Mickey Mantle bat. Just like you had your bat used by that particular player.

Pretty much, you didnt sell the guy the same item you had listed in the auction. Yes, it was an authentic John Doe bat.....I guess. But used by John Doe, well, Taube answered that question for ya. Really, I dont think its that difficult. Like I said, Id be pissed too and would want a refund.

[Vintagedeputy]

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If I bought a bat that was "guaranteed authentic" and it didn't pass PSA, I would want my money back.

-Chris

See, that's where I disagree. Aside from the fact that he never claimed that it would pass "third party authentication", there's something else to consider...

We've all seen bats and such used by other players, so we know that these things occur within the hobby. Players also change their habits on occassion so nothing is set in stone. Just because a third party won't authenticate an item doesnt necessarily mean the item is not genuine. Sure, a PSA/DNA certification or other paperwork would add to it, but I just dont think that third party auth's should be the end all/be all.

[BULBUS]

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If I bought a bat that was "guaranteed authentic" and it didn't pass PSA, I would want my money back.

-Chris

[vonbrandingo]

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Yea this guy seemed a little shady when this thread started, Thanks for telling us his ebay ID, I know I wont be buying anything from him.

Sure, I wonder why he even started the thread. Stating that he sold a bat that he guaranteed to be authentic and that failed PSA/DNA authentication will only make potential buyers think twice about buying his items. If I hadn't purchased anything from him before, I'd be thanking him for the heads up not to.

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Not a reach. I've stated facts. Your ebay feedback is not 100% as you state when trying to convey your reputation in this thread. Even if ebay is "investigating" the negative left for you about a month ago. And this is after I changed my negative to a neutral because you did refund my money. So all the others are not positive either. I'm sure you would have disputed my negative with ebay too, but it would have done no good since it was a clear violation of ebay policy.

With the Dunn bat price, I was pointing out a discrepancy in your details... twice you state in the thread about the Dunn bat that it was a $200 bat... before you posted that you reached a conclusion about it with the buyer.

I've sold only 40 items on ebay but haven't had a single problem like this or the others you post about. So something must be going on with you. All I know is, after my incident with you, this thread, and the Dunn thread, you're quick to put down your buyers and I wouldn't buy from you again because I don't trust what you say.

Yea this guy seemed a little shady when this thread started, Thanks for telling us his ebay ID, I know I wont be buying anything from him.

[vonbrandingo]

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Not a reach. I've stated facts. Your ebay feedback is not 100% as you state when trying to convey your reputation in this thread. Even if ebay is "investigating" the negative left for you about a month ago. And this is after I changed my negative to a neutral because you did refund my money. So all the others are not positive either. I'm sure you would have disputed my negative with ebay too, but it would have done no good since it was a clear violation of ebay policy.

With the Dunn bat price, I was pointing out a discrepancy in your details... twice you state in the thread about the Dunn bat that it was a $200 bat... before you posted that you reached a conclusion about it with the buyer.

I've sold only 40 items on ebay but haven't had a single problem like this or the others you post about. So something must be going on with you. All I know is, after my incident with you, this thread, and the Dunn thread, you're quick to put down your buyers and I wouldn't buy from you again because I don't trust what you say.

[justinlm24]

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as you see i do not use e-bay that much and fairly new to it as well. the one negative stems from an honest mistake when i sent a 2nd chance offer on the wrong item. this guy paid and as soon as i noticed my mistake i refunded his money and explained this to him. he answered by threatening me to sell him the item or he would leave negative feedback. which is a violation of the ebay feedback policy. so yea my feedback will be 100% as soon as it gets removed. which i fully expect it to. but honestly as little as i use ebay it doesnt really matter to me if it gets taken off or not. but feel free to check my other feedback however...all positive. also feel free to ask the forum members here who have bought my items as well. all satisfied. im an honest guy and not looking to rip anyone off. nor would i....so keep reaching....

[justinlm24]

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you really ought to get your facts straight before coming on here untrue accusations. i sold the dunn for $250. minus $40 i refunded him to resolve his dispute. you do the math....as far as my ebay being set to private....i done that upon request of e-bay while they investigate the negative left by papasulu....long story so i wont go into that....so please don.t come on here trying to spread untrue information. i was upfront and honest with you, and refunded your money immediately! so tell the whole story...not just your side of it.....geez the audacity of some people....

[vonbrandingo]

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yea i had a little conflict with a forum member. but we worked that out. and it was not over the authenticity of the batl but simply there being a crack. i have a 100% feedback rating on e-bay and have sold a couple items on here without incident. so no...its not me. people buy things then want to change their mind after the fact. i simply do not get it....

Your statement about your ebay feedback rating is untrue. Your ebay id is paytonlm and your feedback rating is 83.3%. I was the winning bidder (legacyblue1) on ebay of the Dunn bat that you make reference to about being cracked but was stated as uncracked in the ebay item description when you sold it. After I won the ebay auction you refunded my money saying that you got an offer for 250 for the Dunn bat off of ebay and accepted it. I then find out through this forum that you sold the Dunn bat for 200, not 250. Shortly after, I saw you received a negative for another item you sold, don't know what that item was because you made your ebay id private.

[justinlm24]

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vintage, yes those are the exact facts.....i just dont get it. like u said, this was a 7 day auction. he had ample time to research the item...and decide if he wanted to bid or not. i even offered him e-mail addresses to other buyers who are interested in the bat if he wanted to sell it to get his money back. but he wasnt interested. what made it worse was he lied to me about what taube said. he tried to tell me at first that taube said the bat was a fake. but in johns reply he said that he never told him that. ya know maybe had the buyer been honest with me that he didnt want the bat i woulda gave him a refund. but dont lie to make it look like i ripped him off then expect a favor....thanks to all for the insight and your thoughts.....

[ndevlin]

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I dunno. To me, when you guarantee an item 100% authentic, I dont see why a person shouldnt be able to get it authenticated by Mears/PSA and have it come back fine. If Taube couldnt authenticate the bat, for any reason, well, that tells me the bat wasnt a 100% game used bat by John Doe.

Like I said, I guess its still a 100% authentic John Doe bat. But its still not 100% game used by John Doe, which Im sure thats how you had it listed. And it looks as though why Taube wouldnt "authenticate" it.

[Vintagedeputy]

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Ditto. How would you feel if you were the buyer? If this is the scenario, I say do the right thing and refund the $$.

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

Got to disagree here. Let me see if I understand the facts....

1) The buyer had plenty of time to review the item and do his research.

2) The seller said that the bat was "guranteed authentic". That is his word that it is authentic. He did not state that anyone else (authenticator) who laid eyes on it would also agree. Experts have been proven wrong.

3) The buyer sent an email saying that it looked good, meaning that he was satisfied with the bat. He only became unhappy when Taube wouldnt issue a letter?

4) Taube said that the bat was authentic but that he couldnt attribute ALL of the use to that player.

if that's all true, then I say tell the buyer to go pound salt. just my .02

[justinlm24]

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yea i had a little conflict with a forum member. but we worked that out. and it was not over the authenticity of the batl but simply there being a crack. like i said that was resolved. in this case the buyer simply doesnt want the bat. having what some call buyers remorse and simply wants a refund. this bat is authentic...as john taube told me in his e-mail. so my guarantee was correct. just because some other player may have also used the bat...which i was unaware of is not my problem. the bat is still game used by the player i said it was. its pretty simple. i have a 100% feedback rating on e-bay and have sold a couple items on here without incident. so no...its not me. people buy things then want to change their mind after the fact. i simply do not get it....

[earlywynnfan]

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You put "John Doe game used bat" in the title and the description? Guaranteed it to be authentic, I send it in to get authenticated and I cant. Is that right?

Im not saying you are wrong, but if I bought a bat that was guaranteed authentic, and I then sent it in for authentication, and they wont do it for whatever reason, Id be a little upset too.

Ditto. How would you feel if you were the buyer? If this is the scenario, I say do the right thing and refund the $$.

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

[Mauer7]

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Didnt you have another problem with a different bat with a forum member? Maybe its you, and not the buyers? Possible?