EBAY gripe

[staindsox]

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Suicide,

Blaming Gen Y for eBay is assinine. Meg Whitman was born in 1956 and John Donahoe was born in 1960. Yeah, Gen Y is running the shop. eBay was created in 1995, making the very oldest Gen Yers 15 at the time, but I'm sure greed and corruption were spawned by Gen Y. Bernie Madoff, Tom Petters, and Ken Lay are all 24 years old.

[cohibasmoker]

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I thought that if a seller claims non-payment against a bidder and eBay credits your account, the bidder loses the ability to leave feedback for the transaction. Just file a claim with eBay. I would bet the negative is wiped away.

Chris

That's sort of right but, if you file a complaint for non-payment and the buyer/stiff DOES NOT respond to the complaint, then they lose the right to leave feedback. If the buyer/stiff responds in any way shape or form, they are off the hook and they can leave whatever feedback they want.

Here's what aggravates me about the non-payment thing - it is the easiest complaint to resolve but eBay won't do it. eBay demands that all payments must go through PayPal - a company that eBay owns. Now, if a seller files a complaint through eBay for non-payment, it would be a simple task to track the payment through PayPal. If there isn't any record of payment, the buyer/stiff didn't pay and as such, they should not be able to leave any form of feedback for the transaction. If it happens twice, they're gone.

Jim

Jim

[whatupyos]

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That's sort of right but, if you file a complaint for non-payment and the buyer/stiff DOES NOT respond to the complaint, then they lose the right to leave feedback. If the buyer/stiff responds in any way shape or form, they are off the hook and they can leave whatever feedback they want.

Here's what aggravates me about the non-payment thing - it is the easiest complaint to resolve but eBay won't do it. eBay demands that all payments must go through PayPal - a company that eBay owns. Now, if a seller files a complaint through eBay for non-payment, it would be a simple task to track the payment through PayPal. If there isn't any record of payment, the buyer/stiff didn't pay and as such, they should not be able to leave any form of feedback for the transaction. If it happens twice, they're gone.

Jim

Jim

Jim,

I agree with you 100%!! I mean, when you sign up for an account they have all this verbage about when you click to confirm your bid, its a legally binding agreement. Guess its not since his strike was removed. I just dont get it. He never asked me questions about this ball. Bids then doesn't pay. What a jerk off. I'm sooo pissed you have no idea. If he thought the ball was misspelled, he should have never bid in the first place. Comeplete ridiculous!! Oh well, nothing I can do. Ebay won't help me, they're full of crap over there. I'm done with them, so much for customer satisfaction. This guy's account should be deleted....although I'm sure he'd just sign up with a new name, like certain ousted GUU members, haha.

Aaron

[buc]

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I recently got a negative after the buyer resold all the items they purchased from me. Its only fair for sellers to be able to leave a negative.

[suicide_squeeze]

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Suicide,

Blaming Gen Y for eBay is assinine. Meg Whitman was born in 1956 and John Donahoe was born in 1960. Yeah, Gen Y is running the shop. eBay was created in 1995, making the very oldest Gen Yers 15 at the time, but I'm sure greed and corruption were spawned by Gen Y. Bernie Madoff, Tom Petters, and Ken Lay are all 24 years old.

staindsox,

Hey partner, nice to meet you. I don't think I've ever had the pleasure of being addressed in your hen-picking posts before.....so my congratulations to you for not being a virginized suicide_squeeze bashing GUU forum member any longer.

Now that we got that out of the way......may I direct you (with white cane in hand) to the very first line which you apparently blacked out on in my post while reading and then deciding you were coming at me.

It clearly states "That's because ebay is run by a group of Gen-Y'ers that have been brought up in an environment of fraud, void of ethics or morals, latent with white collar crime, with no recourse to the wrongdoer's, no responsibility for bad decisions, no restitution for your losses, bankruptcies being filed like divorce papers......I mean, what do you expect?"

If you really think Meg Whitman and John Donahoe are the ones making all of these Einstein-esque changes in Ebay's policies......then I can't help you.

But in the meantime....If you'd get your head out of the "Sarahsdad syndrome" long enough to see the light and understand what you missed in the meaning of my post, you'll see I was referring to the fact that most of the employees working for ebay, the ones who run the day-to-day operations of the dump, were brought up in the type of environment (meaning the current trend of business dealings involving corruption, crime, greed, etc.) and haven't a clue.....pretty much about anything. They have learned from the best, some of which you mentioned, although lost in meaning as you thought I was referring to them as part of the "24 year olds" you referred to. (Wagging finger at you.....).....No......No.......NO, staindsox, you get a "D" on this project.

You are absolutely entitled to disagree, but at least get the meaning right before you rant.

Nice meeting you.....enjoy the forum, and I really look forward to your next bout of verbal dart winging.

[suicide_squeeze]

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Jim,

I agree with you 100%!! I mean, when you sign up for an account they have all this verbage about when you click to confirm your bid, its a legally binding agreement. Guess its not since his strike was removed. I just dont get it. He never asked me questions about this ball. Bids then doesn't pay. What a jerk off. I'm sooo pissed you have no idea. If he thought the ball was misspelled, he should have never bid in the first place. Comeplete ridiculous!! Oh well, nothing I can do. Ebay won't help me, they're full of crap over there. I'm done with them, so much for customer satisfaction. This guy's account should be deleted....although I'm sure he'd just sign up with a new name, like certain ousted GUU members, haha.

Aaron

Well, Aaron (& Jim), staindsox has an easy explanation for you.


Just simply write Meg Whitman and/or John Donahoe because "they run the show" at ebay, and certainly they will see the evil they have created in their policies........won't they?

[suicide_squeeze]

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Folks, on a very serious note, I think the policies that ebay is currently running under (mentioned here) are seriously alarming.

It's really not something we need to debate here or anywhere else. These policies are absolutely backwards in logic. There isn't anyone alive, possessing common sence and logic, that can argue these policies are correct. The alarming part about it is it seems to be happening in society in general with wreckless abandon. Aren't we, as individuals and company owners and educated people.........supposed to learn from past mistakes, and then utilize the knowledge to make better decisions going forward?

Isn't that why they have legal libraries for lawyers? They can reference past cases hashed out in court, thereby referring to established precedents so they don't have to redesign the wheel every case.

The decisions made by the "board" of idiots at ebay is just a sign of the saturation point we as a current day society have reached. We aren't using what we have learned in the past to our benefit anymore. Somewhere along the generational line, there has been a disconnect. And we're starting to pay a somewhat serious price for it. Our companies our failing, our economy is failing, our society is waning, and our country is in serious trouble.

Why are we importing all of this poisoned garbage from a communist country who doesn't act on proper human rights?

Why is our Governor of Alaske, who really was a MAJOR factor is losing....losing.....the Presidential election.......QUITTING her Government elected position to.......persue running for President in 2012???

So, the message is to QUIT and think about yourself at everyone else's peril who voted for you to do a job YOU wanted?

I am getting way off base here, but am following the same theme. We, as a social group, for many debatable reasons, have started to decline in competency. We have diluted our strong country with way too many immigrants, legal and otherwise, who are taking the freebies to a new level, and sinking the ship. Too many "interest groups" (can you say Unions?) have imposed their demands on Goverment, local and federal, and have bankrupted our system. California is sinking into the pacific as the debt load is too much to overcome.....our own multi-millionaire Governor can't take it any longer, he's just looking for the finish line of his term so he can "GIT OUT!!!".....while our intelligent forefathers have just handed over the wealthy "farms", so to speak, to our fat lazy children who can't never spent enough time away from the video games to know what to do.

We're in trouble people. Here' hoping we can redirect our youth so by the time we're all in adult diapers, the world will be able to keep turning.

Ebay will either figure it out soon, or will be the next big Government bailout....err......American corporate tragedy story.

[staindsox]

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Suicide,

Frontline customer service people never have a hand in writing policy. They either follow policy or they lose their job. They may be indifferent, which can be frsutrating, but they certainly play no part in creating these rules. Do you also crap on the cashier at Target or Barnes & Noble when they can't except a return when you don't have the receipt? You may hate that rule, but the cashier had nothing to do with making that rule. Gen Y has nothing to do with those eBay rules. My point is to focus your venom on those who wrote the policy.

[both-teams-played-hard]

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...sinking the ship.

You mention that the ship be sinking. How far is it going to sink?

[suicide_squeeze]

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Suicide,

Frontline customer service people never have a hand in writing policy. They either follow policy or they lose their job. They may be indifferent, which can be frsutrating, but they certainly play no part in creating these rules. Do you also crap on the cashier at Target or Barnes & Noble when they can't except a return when you don't have the receipt? You may hate that rule, but the cashier had nothing to do with making that rule. Gen Y has nothing to do with those eBay rules. My point is to focus your venom on those who wrote the policy.

Look, I'm not ignorant. I know there are the main decision makers at ebay who have final say.

But how could Meg and John build a mega-successful business like Ebay and then on their own accord come up with these new incredibly wrong ideas? They hire people who "brainstorm" every aspect of the business, and develope business strategies. These idiots present their "ideas" to the board, and they essentially place into effect whatever their policies are to be.

Whatever the case may be (as I really don't feel the need to argue the obvious no matter WHO is making the decisions), ebay is following the norm of today and taking steps in the wrong direction. I'm sure they'll figure it our, and improve their earnings. Or maybe they won't. It doesn't effect me either way, other than to show me that continued concerning trend of backwards thinking we seem to have fallen into as a society. That is the point I'm trying to get accross.

By the way.......have I mentioned lately that I can't stand ebay?

[suicide_squeeze]

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You mention that the ship be sinking. How far is it going to sink?

Point well taken....not very far.

But doesn't the very fact that have a policy as unbelievable as a sellor NOT BEING ABLE TO LEAVE NEGATIVE FEEDBACK concern you? I mean, where is the fairness in that? How can you justify that if you are ebay? Is THAT the evolution of a fair and just system?

If so, then lets just establish our socialized medicine in America already and move on.......

[vonbrandingo]

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You mention that the ship be sinking. How far is it going to sink?

Sky's the limit

- Former Knick Michael Ray Richardson

[Jags Fan Dan]

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So, this really bothers me. I pride myself on being an honest person and doing the right thing. Recently I had a C.C. Sabathia autographed baseball that I put on EBAY. A buyer with the name stevenpark1982 won the item, then never paid me. I filed a claim with ebay and sent my invoices and didn't hear anything until about a week later when he said he was not paying because in his opinion it was a "fake". I personally witnessed C.C. signing the baseball myself. My dad and I both got him to sign out baseballs. I never planned on selling it, but needed money and decided to part with it. I had a 100% feedback and now about 4-6 weeks later he leaves me negative feedback saying it was a replica and it was spelling wrong?!?! I don't know if anyone has a C.C. signed ball but the only letters you can read are C.C. The rest, like most ball players is chicken scratch. So with his negative feedback I'm now down to 96.3% on feedback and took a hit on my other ratings. I don't sell that much on EBAY and after EBAY's new rules I never will. I'm through with them. Too bad I can't do anything about it. At least I hit him with a strike for being a non payer. I can't believe that. I don't think I've done too much business on here with folks but the one or two I have sold too I'm sure can vouche that I'm an honest person and give a complete and thorough description of whatever I'm selling. This is pure rubbish. Just thought I'd vent. Maybe I should email this punk and ask WTF?

Aaron

Welcome to the "I'm never selling on Ebay again" gang. Membership is strong and growing. I'd rather give something away on here than roll the dice there.

[cordovacollector]

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Didn't Meg Whitman leave eBay several years ago?

[cordovacollector]

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"Whitman joined eBay in March 1998, when there were 30 employees.[7]
Whitman resigned as CEO of eBay in November 2007, but remained on the Board and as an Advisor to new CEO John Donahoe until late 2008."

Methinks she saw the future and ran for the hills!

I do think she was one of the "good guys" before eBay turned into the industry of misfits it is now.