MLB authentication # question

[joelsabi]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Great, so a bunch of bean counters are directly responsible for this gig? Like that's supposed to add credibility to the event??

I would be remiss if I didn't point out that "The BIG EIGHT" has been reduced to the "BIG FOUR".....because of all the fraud perpetrated by these accounting firms during the Wall Street debacle early this past decade.

I guess soon KPMG will be A-Rod's rep, and overseeing all of his signings?

if KPMG is good enough to oversee the votes for miss universe, that good enough for me

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: MLB authentication # question

it is better to actually email people than speculate on the MA sticker.

Here is MLB Authentication response:

We believe you probably have an MR hologram since we have not issued an MA version. The MR hologram is from Deloitte & Touche. From May 2002 through January 2006, the firm of Deloitte & Touche was the exclusive third-party Authenticator for all items under the MLB Authentication Program. As Authenticator, Deloitte was solely responsible for all authentication and data entry of the hologram numbers placed on autographed items and game-used memorabilia. Unfortunately, MLB has no direct access to this data. You can try contacting Joe Lopez at Deloitte for more information at jlopez@deloitte.com. Please let us know if there is anything else we can help you with.

Great, so a bunch of bean counters are directly responsible for this gig? Like that's supposed to add credibility to the event??

I would be remiss if I didn't point out that "The BIG EIGHT" has been reduced to the "BIG FOUR".....because of all the fraud perpetrated by these accounting firms during the Wall Street debacle early this past decade.

I guess soon KPMG will be A-Rod's rep, and overseeing all of his signings?

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Steve, I own you an Apology. Looks like I`ve gotten at least one name/member wrong. I`ve pretty much gotten hammered by no less than 3 people e-mailing me, no excuses on my part.




Here`s what should be made clear...I have ONE Game used Baseball, signed by Raffy. I asked one member if he was interested in it, that simple. I looked at the MLB database & wasnt CERTAIN it was a Homer Ball, but thought it was possible, nothing more. I made it CLEAR I wasnt sure what I had & didn`t intend to sell it.

Not only do I hear I have more than one Copy, Of Similar Ball, But I`m a "Fraud" & it`s assumed (& stated) I`m Inscribing Baseballs...I`m also told that I sent the wrong MLB database Number, not too big a deal, But I didnt.

This is a DIRECT ATTACK ON MY CHARACTER. Disagree, I`m cool, Call me a "Fraud" I`m upset, this is TOTALLY UNAPPROPRIATE & UNCALLED FOR.

I`m fairly certain the "main" guy attacking me does NOT want me to send Admin. e-mails calling our "main" man the "C" word.


One more thing, those of you that love to get really "Creative" with Cut/Copy/Paste....DON`T EDIT, COPY THE ENTIRE THING. I read most of these Arguments, 90% of the time, they`re simply designed to make someone look bad. People of Confidence/Character don`t behave this way, THEY DON`T HAVE TO.


Again, I apologize.

Sean

Sean,

Apology accepted, thank you.

With my recent troubles on the GUU, I didn't need more issues to explain to Chris Cavalier who is ready to pull the plug on me again. So I appreciate you clarifying things here.

All I can state publicly here is that you never offered the ball to me for sale. So I hope that helps.

Steve

[joelsabi]

Re: MLB authentication # question

it is better to actually email people than speculate on the MA sticker.

Here is MLB Authentication response:

We believe you probably have an MR hologram since we have not issued an MA version. The MR hologram is from Deloitte & Touche. From May 2002 through January 2006, the firm of Deloitte & Touche was the exclusive third-party Authenticator for all items under the MLB Authentication Program. As Authenticator, Deloitte was solely responsible for all authentication and data entry of the hologram numbers placed on autographed items and game-used memorabilia. Unfortunately, MLB has no direct access to this data. You can try contacting Joe Lopez at Deloitte for more information at jlopez@deloitte.com. Please let us know if there is anything else we can help you with.

[10thMan]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Steve, I own you an Apology. Looks like I`ve gotten at least one name/member wrong. I`ve pretty much gotten hammered by no less than 3 people e-mailing me, no excuses on my part.




Here`s what should be made clear...I have ONE Game used Baseball, signed by Raffy. I asked one member if he was interested in it, that simple. I looked at the MLB database & wasnt CERTAIN it was a Homer Ball, but thought it was possible, nothing more. I made it CLEAR I wasnt sure what I had & didn`t intend to sell it.

Not only do I hear I have more than one Copy, Of Similar Ball, But I`m a "Fraud" & it`s assumed (& stated) I`m Inscribing Baseballs...I`m also told that I sent the wrong MLB database Number, not too big a deal, But I didnt.

This is a DIRECT ATTACK ON MY CHARACTER. Disagree, I`m cool, Call me a "Fraud" I`m upset, this is TOTALLY UNAPPROPRIATE & UNCALLED FOR.

I`m fairly certain the "main" guy attacking me does NOT want me to send Admin. e-mails calling our "main" man the "C" word.


One more thing, those of you that love to get really "Creative" with Cut/Copy/Paste....DON`T EDIT, COPY THE ENTIRE THING. I read most of these Arguments, 90% of the time, they`re simply designed to make someone look bad. People of Confidence/Character don`t behave this way, THEY DON`T HAVE TO.


Again, I apologize.

Sean

[NYCrulesU]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Steve, You Jumped the Gun here Buddy, BIG TIME. Not only did you state that I have "2 Copies" but that I`m inscribing them. Pretty Sick Dude!!!

I have a Game used Baseball, signed by Palmeiro, that`s it. FOR YOU, or ANYONE else to suggest more than this is astonishing.

This Item was NEVER offered for Sale, I confirmed this with the email I sent you Steve!!! No money is mentioned, or suggested. Let me remind you, I said "I`m not sure what I have" I WAS & HAVE BEEN TOTALLY HONEST & UPFRONT ABOUT THIS BASEBALL.

Dont get too carried away with me believing this MAY have been a Homer ball, I`m not confused here dude. I know what I said.

Steve, this is TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL & AN ATTCK ON ME. Let me remind you, you`ve recently been re-instated on this Board. Not only have you disrespected Me, you`ve sent me Nasty e-mails calling Chris some RUDE, PROFANE names. I HAVE THOSE E-MAILS.

You`ve proven yourself to be extremley disrespectful, OVERLY AND UNFAIRLY CRITICAL of others. This is FAR more than simply offering an Opinion.

Sean

Ummm, "dude". MY name is not Steve. Get you fact straight. You're too busy lying that you have people mixed up with one another.

You offered this fake hr ball tome for sale. You lied and said you didn't. And that's the least of your offenses.

[joelsabi]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Sean,

In referring to your post above, the portion highlighted and enlarged, I want to be clear.

I never said anything of the sort. You have me confused with soemone else here.

I understand why you are upset, but please don't mistake another member's words here for mine.

And below, where you refer to two different ".com" names emailing you that you feel are the same person? I am publicly stating that you are incorrect in assuming they are both me. I don't play silly games like that.

I hope you can get your point across without any further anger slung in my direction. You chose to come on this thread and defend yourself when you hadn't even been identified as the seller. You have nothing to prove to me. It's the other two or three members here who are calling you out.

I have no hand in this argument, nor do I want one. I also have no opinion on any prior "correspondence" you've had with any other members here regarding this ball, as I was not privied to it, and don't care to be.

Good luck,

Steve

Sean

Its Sean that is calling you out. The person who started the thread. It would be stupid if Sean and Steve were the same guy since IP Addresses can be tracked by the moderator.

[joelsabi]

Re: MLB authentication # question

I am not privy to the email sent so I am not calling anyone out neither. Right now its hearsay because I cannot verify the ebay seller or the said emails between the buyer and seller.

Pictures don't lie but the source of the photos have not been proven.

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Steve, You Jumped the Gun here Buddy, BIG TIME. Not only did you state that I have "2 Copies" but that I`m inscribing them. Pretty Sick Dude!!!

I have a Game used Baseball, signed by Palmeiro, that`s it. FOR YOU, or ANYONE else to suggest more than this is astonishing.

Sean

Sean,

In referring to your post above, the portion highlighted and enlarged, I want to be clear.

I never said anything of the sort. You have me confused with soemone else here.

I understand why you are upset, but please don't mistake another member's words here for mine.

And below, where you refer to two different ".com" names emailing you that you feel are the same person? I am publicly stating that you are incorrect in assuming they are both me. I don't play silly games like that.

I hope you can get your point across without any further anger slung in my direction. You chose to come on this thread and defend yourself when you hadn't even been identified as the seller. You have nothing to prove to me. It's the other two or three members here who are calling you out.

I have no hand in this argument, nor do I want one. I also have no opinion on any prior "correspondence" you've had with any other members here regarding this ball, as I was not privied to it, and don't care to be.

Good luck,

Steve

[suicide_squeeze]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Steve, You Jumped the Gun here Buddy, BIG TIME. Not only did you state that I have "2 Copies" but that I`m inscribing them. Pretty Sick Dude!!!

I have a Game used Baseball, signed by Palmeiro, that`s it. FOR YOU, or ANYONE else to suggest more than this is astonishing.

Um.......Sean.

You have me confused with someone else. I never said you had two of anything. Check back on the thread. Someone else said that.

I am sorry if you thought or felt otherwise.

Steve

[10thMan]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Steve, You Jumped the Gun here Buddy, BIG TIME. Not only did you state that I have "2 Copies" but that I`m inscribing them. Pretty Sick Dude!!!

I have a Game used Baseball, signed by Palmeiro, that`s it. FOR YOU, or ANYONE else to suggest more than this is astonishing.

This Item was NEVER offered for Sale, I confirmed this with the email I sent you Steve!!! No money is mentioned, or suggested. Let me remind you, I said "I`m not sure what I have" I WAS & HAVE BEEN TOTALLY HONEST & UPFRONT ABOUT THIS BASEBALL.

Dont get too carried away with me believing this MAY have been a Homer ball, I`m not confused here dude. I know what I said.

Steve, this is TOTALLY DISRESPECTFUL & AN ATTCK ON ME. Let me remind you, you`ve recently been re-instated on this Board. Not only have you disrespected Me, you`ve sent me Nasty e-mails calling Chris some RUDE, PROFANE names. I HAVE THOSE E-MAILS.

You`ve proven yourself to be extremley disrespectful, OVERLY AND UNFAIRLY CRITICAL of others. This is FAR more than simply offering an Opinion.

Sean

[joelsabi]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Falsely inscribed by the player is kinda harsh. I have not doubt that ASI did not misrepresent this baseball as the actual homerun baseball when they initially. The same person providing photos of two different baseballs with different ASI stickers with the same insription seem to confirms this. This is kinda sickening to the stomach.

Just to clarifying. i was saying that i have no problem with asi selling 6 baseballs with the same insciption provided that the baseballs were disclosed to not be the homerun baseball.

i do have a problem with a person misrepresenting it in the future.

if the guy emailing the photo and the guy posting on the forum are the same person then there is no doubt that he has been in possession of two baseballs. pictures do not lie.

owning one baseball could conceivably make a person believe they own a actual homerun baseball. however, owning two baseballs with the same description seems to provide additional information. it would seem to eliminate the belief of the owner of the two baseballs with the same exact hr inscription that either one of the baseballs is an actual homerun baseball. to say otherwise is deceptive.

[NYCrulesU]

Re: MLB authentication # question

Now I see why I receive daily emails from some of the more respected former members telling me not to even bother here. I've turned this matter over to the moderators. I don't appreciate someone blatantly offering me an item for sale that is not exactly what it is advertised to be. Then, to top it off, he denies ever offering it to me.

In my book this constitutes an offer of sale. 10thman's direct post copy/pasted.

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Re: Rafael Palmeiro
NYC, I have a Palmeiro MLB Authenticated Home Run Baseball. Signed perfectly, with an Inscription. I believe it`s an actual Homer due to the fact that it was probably over the fence, it`s really dirty, not just "Rubbed" It`s in the MLB "Database"
Interested, send me an e-mail. I normally dont check this Board for Replies.

tempbreak at hotmail dot com

Sean

[NYCrulesU]

Re: MLB authentication # question

No, Nothing to hide here. Looks like there are 2 Game used Baseballs with the same Inscription. Not sure what you mean by "I have more than one Copy" Seems kinda like a sick thing to ASSUME. If I had 6, I`d tell you, but you dont know me.

Steve, several things I`d recommend...

#1 Re-read the e-mail I sent you, I`m sure you`ve probably saved it, you seem like the type. See anything about a price, or offer? Nope, I made it Clear I`m not interested in selling the Baseball. Why? because I`m an Ethical person. I`m not certain that it`s a real homer ball, that simple. It IS a nice game used Ball for sure. To ASSUME PUBLICLY, that I`m the type to perform ANY type of Scam is Crazy. You dont have to believe ANYTHING I SAY OR TYPE, I`m ok with that.

#2 STOP E-MAILING ME. I`m not confused here for one second. I`m getting e-mails from 2 different guys that use the same dotcom website, Both use different first names, I believe BOTH are you.

#3 I`ve dealt (successfully) off this Forum with Jim Caravello, Eric S, Tim Byington (regularly) Jeff Scott (regularly) as well as a dozen others, without ONE SINGLE ISSUE. I have both Bought & sold.

All I gotta say, Dont e-mail me anymore, what your Implying here is EXTREMELY SICK TO ME.


Sean

Just want to be clear here. Are you claiming that both of these baseball are not yours? That you only own one of them?

[10thMan]

Re: MLB authentication # question

No, Nothing to hide here. Looks like there are 2 Game used Baseballs with the same Inscription. Not sure what you mean by "I have more than one Copy" Seems kinda like a sick thing to ASSUME. If I had 6, I`d tell you, but you dont know me.

Steve, several things I`d recommend...

#1 Re-read the e-mail I sent you, I`m sure you`ve probably saved it, you seem like the type. See anything about a price, or offer? Nope, I made it Clear I`m not interested in selling the Baseball. Why? because I`m an Ethical person. I`m not certain that it`s a real homer ball, that simple. It IS a nice game used Ball for sure. To ASSUME PUBLICLY, that I`m the type to perform ANY type of Scam is Crazy. You dont have to believe ANYTHING I SAY OR TYPE, I`m ok with that.

#2 STOP E-MAILING ME. I`m not confused here for one second. I`m getting e-mails from 2 different guys that use the same dotcom website, Both use different first names, I believe BOTH are you.

#3 I`ve dealt (successfully) off this Forum with Jim Caravello, Eric S, Tim Byington (regularly) Jeff Scott (regularly) as well as a dozen others, without ONE SINGLE ISSUE. I have both Bought & sold.

All I gotta say, Dont e-mail me anymore, what your Implying here is EXTREMELY SICK TO ME.


Sean