Check out this Bench "Gamer" Wow..just wow

[TriplexXxSports]

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If we contact Ebay with the info that we know, will they pull the item? It's an obvious mis-representation and a complete fake of what it's claiming to be.

They (eBay) will pull the item if you provide them concrete proof (records, pictures, or something that proves the bat to be different than described beyond a reasonable doubt). They will not pull it based on opinion or hearsay.

[jbsportstuff]

Re: Check out this Bench "Gamer" Wow..just wow

If we contact Ebay with the info that we know, will they pull the item? It's an obvious mis-representation and a complete fake of what it's claiming to be.

[Genke]

Re: Check out this Bench "Gamer" Wow..just wow

The Pujols isn't real.

Capital-Sports and bigtruck260,


Of course I know it isn't real, and yes, I was kidding. That is the reason I asked if the FBI was on them yet!? That is one of the most pathetic Pujols forgeries I have seen.

[BMH]

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This Johnny Bench bat is not a store model bat based on the bat’s weight (32.5), the length (34 ½), and the deep well pronounced factory branding, opposed to the foil stamped store model bats. The model number cannot be found in his bat factory records at this time. This can be attributed to either factory error in the bat factory records or manufacturing defect of the bat during production.

Um, that is foil branding, burn branding doesn't pull out of the impressions like that bat.

The only error we made is not marking all of our SOUVIE bats so you could always tell they were souveis and some asshat doesn't try to pass it off as a gamer such as this one.

BTW, if he wishes to correct the description one more time I would say it's a S216 or a B278.

[karamaxjoe]

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The crappy Bench bat is back on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/1976-79-Pro-Model-Johnny-Bench-Game-Used-Bat-w-COA-LOA_W0QQitemZ260550551946QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item3caa05e98a

[jbsportstuff]

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Wow Momem - That made me want to get out a tissue......LOL

The good guys? We needs guys like this to stop selling fake stuff.

I can think of several things that TSA stands for and none of them have to do with sports.

[momen55]

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this is what the seller emailed me;

Dear momen55,

Thank you, I understand. I took down the auction, NOT EBAY! I take responsibilty for my actions. There is nothing to fear, I am not a criminal, (not saying you are calling one), I am saying it. Trust has to be earned.

There was typos on the COA and everything is being corrected and resolved. This was partly more my fault, it was a rush job, I pushed the authenticator to slide it in his already extremely busy schedule. He is working on a couple hundred very old vintage bats this week alone, mostly of which I own, thus why he rushed the Bench for me.

I apologize and I would appreciate if everyone would stop with all the crazy allegations and assumptions regarding TSA and especially myself. I am NOT TSA. I am not, nor is TSA, committing fraudelent crimes. I take life very serious and I am one of the good guys.

I am a professional and the work I do has absolutely nothing to do with the sports industry. I collect and do this as a hobby with my kids.

I know TSA thru sports shows here in NY and right now I giving them a chance. I have serious reasons why I do not use the other authenticators.

I am watching over them closely and I assure you and everyone, I will not allow TSA or anyone for that matter to cuase harm to people.

Thank you for all your help and I wish you and your family all the best.
eller emailed me;

[xpress34]

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Why hasn't anyone commented on the 1950's Babe Ruth game used Adirondack bat on their website?

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

Ken -

I checked it out - and the Gehrig. I found the configuration of the two Adirondack's interesting. Instead of being oriented with the Barrel to the Right, they are oriented with the Barrel to the left.

I also liked the Cobb which has obviously been corked at some point in time.

- Chris

[bigtruck260]

Re: Check out this Bench "Gamer" Wow..just wow

Well, at least that Albert Pujols is real....


I wonder if the FBI is on the case yet?

I hope you are kidding....

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Check out this Bench "Gamer" Wow..just wow

Why hasn't anyone commented on the 1950's Babe Ruth game used Adirondack bat on their website?

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

[Capital-Sports]

Re: Check out this Bench "Gamer" Wow..just wow

Well, at least that Albert Pujols is real....


I wonder if the FBI is on the case yet?

The Pujols isn't real.

[jppopma]

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What I can't get over is the numbers listed on the LOA's....TSA25,000 range!!!!

I must have been away way too long if a new authenticator came out and has already laid out 25,000 LOA's. Maybe I just underestimate the volume that an authenticator does.

Quantity or quality, right? Who can't help but being convinced by an authenticator that has already given a million opinions? (even if they have a 5-10% rate of being right).

Goes to show the trust people will put into a piece of paper and shiny sticker (is it even custom Andrew? Looks better than other "famous" authenticator's stickers)

[Genke]

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It gets worse, they authenticate autographs too!

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http://cgi.ebay.com/Albert-Pujols-Si...item3ca9eea127

Well, at least that Albert Pujols is real....


I wonder if the FBI is on the case yet?

[BMH]

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Wow...I need to be fired. Not only did I not research the whole "Registered Trademark" on his name but I failed to honestly look at the bat. That isn't a R43. The R43 does not flare into the knob. The R43 has a standard knob and taper. That one is more like the original C271.

[Genke]

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The bat has been pulled. However, I received this from the seller...


"[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']I Thank you for all your help and for everyone else who helped me with this bat. I called TSA and had a long discussion with the authenticator. Now the authenticator looked over the auction and read the messages I sent him from everyone, and he read the blogs and forums. The first thing he noticed was the COA had typos mistakes. The bat is in fact 32 oz and NOT 37 oz. I weighed it and I know this for a fact. Now as for the "C" being cupped, I have not seen any cupped bats from bench and he ordered over 200 models with a "C" over the years (not just 1979). Again I am not an expert. TSA also told me the "C" meant that the model number had no designation according to Malta's book and H&B records. You state ALL Bench gamers have "5" on the knob, TSA showed me many pics where Bench had a "2" on the knob in a game and a "11" on the knob in a game. TSA has in fact showed me all the evidence, there was just a few typos on the COA, including the model number. NOW as for the KNOB being SANDED down, let me assure you, I DID NOT sand the knob nor could it have been sanded. The bat is in fact 34.5 inches (I measured it). If it was sanded to remove the JB4 from the knob, that would mean it was a 35 inch store model bat (correct me if I am wrong). That would mean you would have shave off an entire 1/2 inch to make it a pro bat. NO knob is that thick and that would be extremely noticeable. TSA showed me pics where H&B used a machine to make those "even" circular scratches on knobs to fine tune bats to precision measurements. I was showed many Bench bats sold from auction houses for Thousands, authenticated by PSA and MEARS, that had the same circular scratches on the knob. Sand paper would leave a more messy and noticeable finish and again an entire 1/2 inch cut off from the bat. I am taking the bat down from ebay due to the typos as I promised. I am NOT associated with TSA and I am not a con as it was stated on blogs. If you need pics I can email them to you, I have some." [/font]
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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Well the authenticator has no clue and the person selling the bat didn't read everything on this thread or they would have seen the Bench bat that I showed that IS INDEED cupped on the end. The picture is still in this thread.[/font] If TSA showed this person "Bench" bats with a 2 or an 11, then someone else wrote them because Bench was always #5. Just ridiculous arguments.

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[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']I'll let everyone else comment on this e-mail I received. I'm just glad that it is pulled. TSA is a joke.[/font]

I haven't read seen this much horsesh!t since I visited the stalls of Churchill Downs before the big race.

Yeah, I know that when they stamp a knob with whatever it is they stamp into it, that the stamping goes into the wood 1/2".

Does this tool think everyone is retarded? And what does that say for the authenticator that he has "typo's" on his pictured letters? Now THER'S a company I want to do biz with.

The seller is the authenticator, it's obvious. VintageDeputy's post pretty much cleared that issue up. And he's really bummed he's been outted. I hope he spent a bundle of money on having all of those worthless holograms made up for his upcoming garbage run.

Why not just call it as it is: TSA = "Total Sh!t Authenticated"