NBA All-Star Jerseys

[skinsfan0521]

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A limit is not a bad business idea at all. Stores do it all the time with hot products and ticketmaster does it with event tickets. Any business that relies on one customer to sustain it is on risky ground. I mean what if he dies tommorrow or suffers an unexpected business reversal? The demand is very high and there are precious few of the top jerseys available on the market so prices would not drop off as much as people might think, they may even rise because once he hits the limit people will keep bidding because they feel they can actually win rather than just bid him up. Plus it would create a secondary market as people sell stuff off as most collectors inevitably do whether it is because they need the money or want new stuff, etc. Which the basketball game used hobby defintely needs you see MLB authentic, Steiner and team certified baseball items, you see NFl auctions, team, Jo and steiner certified football items and MEIgray and team certified hockey items being sold here, by various dealers and on auction sites all the time but you rarely see that with basketball. As far as the people telling people to go find better jobs just to bid on jerseys it is doubtful that there are many jobs that pay you so much that you have a few hundred thousand a year to spend on jerseys. And the idea of placing extremely high bids won't work because ok maybe someone tries that and it works that once or a few times but is anyone going to keep trying it? The idea is to keep as many people interested and involved in the hobby as possible because it benefits all of us.

I disagree...

Ticketmaster does it because they don't want the scalpers making more money off the tickets than they can. They only do it to keep their name synonymous with ordering tickets and not "Joe's Tickets". It's purely a ploy to keep their name in people's minds.

Stores do it for a couple reasons. For one, to drive up interest. If somebody tells you that you can have a limited amount of things, that automatically makes you want to know "why?". "Is it going to be a really special item that will go up in value? Why can I only have 1? I want more!" Also, they do it so they can get more customers through their door in hopes of having them buy some other stuff while they're in there. For stores, it's all about foot traffic (or online traffic, whichever you'd prefer). If one person comes in and buys 100 Nintendo Wii's, there's a lot less chance that other items will sell. If 100 people come in to buy one each, there's a good % of people who will buy other stuff while they're there.

But, in an auction format and with something that are one of a kind items, it makes no business sense. The only thing they do by limiting items, is limit their income. Something that nobody is going to sign up for... especially in an economy like this and they've got somebody buying used socks for $700+. Just not gonna happen IMO.

[legaleagle92481]

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And for the person that said they should make two sets of allstar jerseys. They actually do but as Barry said one set is gifted to the players.

[legaleagle92481]

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A limit is not a bad business idea at all. Stores do it all the time with hot products and ticketmaster does it with event tickets. Any business that relies on one customer to sustain it is on risky ground. I mean what if he dies tommorrow or suffers an unexpected business reversal? The demand is very high and there are precious few of the top jerseys available on the market so prices would not drop off as much as people might think, they may even rise because once he hits the limit people will keep bidding because they feel they can actually win rather than just bid him up. Plus it would create a secondary market as people sell stuff off as most collectors inevitably do whether it is because they need the money or want new stuff, etc. Which the basketball game used hobby defintely needs you see MLB authentic, Steiner and team certified baseball items, you see NFl auctions, team, Jo and steiner certified football items and MEIgray and team certified hockey items being sold here, by various dealers and on auction sites all the time but you rarely see that with basketball. As far as the people telling people to go find better jobs just to bid on jerseys it is doubtful that there are many jobs that pay you so much that you have a few hundred thousand a year to spend on jerseys. And the idea of placing extremely high bids won't work because ok maybe someone tries that and it works that once or a few times but is anyone going to keep trying it? The idea is to keep as many people interested and involved in the hobby as possible because it benefits all of us.

[shafrancollectibles.com]

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I was not a bidder on these jerseys but have followed this thread. Despite the fact that one buyer is winning everything, auctions are the fairest way to make it an open market - the auction process allows anybody to bid ANY AMOUNT and have a chance to win something.

If this one buyer seems to have unlimited money supply, the only way to try to challenge that is to bid a jersey up to an unreasonable number and see if he chases it - for example, if Kobe is generally selling at $30g, one bidder needs to be willing to go to $60g if they are that interested in obtaining it. At some point, he will either get tired of way over-spending to continue winning everything, or he will still win items that have no chance of holding their value in the long term, which can't be enticing to most people, even with very deep pockets.

There is no way Meigray/NBA Auctions would limit the bids somebody could place - that would be detrimental to their business.

[sportscentury]

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I'm not an NBA collector at all and have no interest in these items, but I don't see why anybody would ever put a limit of # of items won per auction. All they would be doing is limiting their potential income. That's a terrible business practice. I don't even know why that's coming up as an option to "fix" this??

+1

Not a great business idea, but definitely worth a chuckle.

[sportscentury]

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Ban them from what? Not winning another auction?

I won the Shaq Christmas jersey on NBA/MeiGray Auctions a mere two months ago. Digger26 won the LBJ jersey in that auction, as well. There were also several other winners, but I can't remember them all. I know you're frustrated, but let's be reasonable. Do you really think no one else will ever win an NBA/MeiGray Auctions item again? Come on.

Listen, do as you please. What do I care? I just think some of the posts in this thread are out of line. Whether it is you, Doodle, Kuljo, Amit Tailor, or whomever, there will always be bidders who are frustrated that they didn't get the items that they desired. No offense intended, but I really don't understand the crying and complaining. Sometimes supply/demand treats us well and sometimes it doesn't. It is what it is.

[skinsfan0521]

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I'm not an NBA collector at all and have no interest in these items, but I don't see why anybody would ever put a limit of # of items won per auction. All they would be doing is limiting their potential income. That's a terrible business practice. I don't even know why that's coming up as an option to "fix" this??

[Sonny25]

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A couple of you guys will be lucky if NBA Auctions and MeiGray do not ban you from their auctions. Just sayin'...

Ban them from what? Not winning another auction?

[mbenga28]

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I think those who claim unfairness in these auctions should perhaps evaluate yourselves, especially considering looking for a higher paying position or cutting back on some of your personal expenses so you would have the sufficient funds to possibly win one of these auctions. as someone once said to me when I complained about the high standards of single women today, "quit yer bitchin'"

[drexler22]

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After the Durant socks episode and knowing his history of outbidding members here, i'd decided to take a back seat today. No point even browsing these auctions imo. I strongly recommend NBA Meigray put limit's in place as to how many auctions a member can win.

[sportscentury]

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What is it about this thread and new members coming out of the woodwork to introduce themselves with wildly inappropriate posts? Incredible.

A couple of you guys will be lucky if NBA Auctions and MeiGray do not ban you from their auctions. Just sayin'...

[Texans]

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You see ... you are still trying to convince hobbyist to continue to drive-up the price. You really are working for Meigray or NBA Auction.

Exquisite613/jtnbafan has been doing this for years and so far, there is NO sign of tapping-out. He is even becoming meaner by taking even the t-shirts.

Well, its up to the collectors/bidders, which approach they want to take. A lot of them have already tried the approach of over-bidding in hopes of tapping him out, but that has not worked and he has become even meaner this year. So, why not try the approach of boycotting NBA Auction.

I dont know what you mean by he became even meaner. He just a big basketball fan and has an awesome collection. I think most people if they had that type of money would buy everything too. Honestly, I believe the best bet to acquire a All Star jersey is if there were two sets.


Jojo

[kuljo]

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are you exquisite pr man. I'm sure he would love it if no one bid and he got great NBA gamers for next to nothing. Better off bidding them up and tapping him out at some point. Also no one in their right mind thinks he is doing this to control the market. If he started selling them off he would lose a ton of money. If you think people flip jerseys bought on any of the NBA.com/NFL.com/NHL.com/MLB.com sites your crazy. 95% of the time when someone resells off those they take loses, sometimes huge. Exquisite has posted on here before and is just a collector. His collection has to be the best NBA gamer collection on the planet.

You see ... you are still trying to convince hobbyist to continue to drive-up the price. You really are working for Meigray or NBA Auction.

Exquisite613/jtnbafan has been doing this for years and so far, there is NO sign of tapping-out. He is even becoming meaner by taking even the t-shirts.

Well, its up to the collectors/bidders, which approach they want to take. A lot of them have already tried the approach of over-bidding in hopes of tapping him out, but that has not worked and he has become even meaner this year. So, why not try the approach of boycotting NBA Auction.

Jtnbafan/exquisete613 has also used the name of jtaubenfeld last year.

http://auctions.nba.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=102747945&prmenbr=51136034&aunbr=103094655

I guess everybody will be happy if the NBA Auction can put a limit of 4 items per person per auction date. I dont think putting a limit will make them bankrupt or lose money, since once JT has had his fill, the rest of the collectors will be in a bidding war for the rest of the items. Everybody wins!

[indyred]

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I'm telling you all....STOP BIDDING!!! DO NOT allow him to control the market.

If everyone boycotts the NBA Auction or Meigray Auction until some rule changes are set in place, Meigray and the NBA will start to lose profit. Then, maybe that will force them to change some rules to make this hobby interesting again.

Just imagine the remaining all-star items just closing at $100 ... the Finals jerseys just closing at the starting bid price?. A Kobe, Lebron , Howard, or Garnett Finals jersey closing at the starting bid price?

Going to a bidding war with jtnbafan is NOT going to hurt his wallet. It will only make Meigray and the NBA happier The happier and richer they get, the more they care less about the other hobbyists or fans.

Aren't you convinced yet that jtnbafan/exquisite613 is rich and does not care about the price???!!!

If you want to put a stop to this madness, control your itch, and stop bidding!

are you exquisite pr man. I'm sure he would love it if no one bid and he got great NBA gamers for next to nothing. Better off bidding them up and tapping him out at some point. Also no one in their right mind thinks he is doing this to control the market. If he started selling them off he would lose a ton of money. If you think people flip jerseys bought on any of the NBA.com/NFL.com/NHL.com/MLB.com sites your crazy. 95% of the time when someone resells off those they take loses, sometimes huge. Exquisite has posted on here before and is just a collector. His collection has to be the best NBA gamer collection on the planet.

[legaleagle92481]

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I'm telling you all....STOP BIDDING!!! DO NOT allow him to control the market.

If everyone boycotts the NBA Auction or Meigray Auction until some rule changes are set in place, Meigray and the NBA will start to lose profit. Then, maybe that will force them to change some rules to make this hobby interesting again.

Just imagine the remaining all-star items just closing at $100 ... the Finals jerseys just closing at the starting bid price?. A Kobe, Lebron , Howard, or Garnett Finals jersey closing at the starting bid price?

Going to a bidding war with jtnbafan is NOT going to hurt his wallet. It will only make Meigray and the NBA happier The happier and richer they get, the more they care less about the other hobbyists or fans.

Aren't you convinced yet that jtnbafan/exquisite613 is rich and does not care about the price???!!!

If you want to put a stop to this madness, control your itch, and stop bidding!

i agree with you. i am all for free market, etc. but it is not a good thing if one person is winning every item of consequence i think for the good of the hobby all bidders should be limitied to one id and x number of wins per auction. otherwise people are just going to get frustrated and stop collecting because how can you collect if you cannot obtain items. yes meigray has some on their site and that is great but there is only a hand full of allstar players on there and once you get your fill of them, then what? what are your other sources? unlike other sports teams do not sell directly to the public. maybe every once in awhile a photomatchable jersey emerges on the market but that does not steadily happen and the good stuff goes into his collection and stays there. which is also part of the harm what he is doing causes. i also collect nfl gamers and alot of the jerseys i have bought have been from people who purchased them off the league auction site at somepoint so there is a stream available of them even after the league site auctioned them.
i had thought maybe if people aggressively bid he would run out of money or get tired of bidding so much and let a big item or two go every now and then but when he is paying what he paid for durant socks noway that will happen. i had 13 grand to invest in nba jerseys tried to in the allstar auction finishied runnerup a bunch of times despite bidding the whole wad on most of the items i bid on. i was going to save up and come back with more next time but then i saw some nfl stuff i wanted and decided why pass it up to bid even more money and win nothing. so until it changes i will be content buying nfl stuff.