NBA All-Star Jerseys

[BarryMeisel]

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Mbenga,

As soon as we have the information ready, we will post.

And for those of you interested in consigning basketball items, we do have a list of private collectors who will pay for MeiGray authenticated basketball jerseys. If you are interested, please contact us at sales@meigray.com

Thanks, Barry

[sportscentury]

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Reid,

Just random thoughts on this....for a hoops fan it is great to see so much dialogue on here


Do you really think this auction makes our collections/other items go up? I am not totally disagreeing with you, but for example, i have a Tim Duncan rookie (with memorial stripe - you rarely see that). Is that worth more or less than an allstar jersey, you could debate either side, but i dont think i could get $13,000 for it?

I do wonder if 1 person buying them all, does hurt the value/hobby. "Legal" will you be likely to bid that high again next year? Honestly i dont think i will even bid next year, it kind of seems pointless.

As far as exquiste, if you know this guys history, he got his name bc he BUYS UD exquiste cards. All those crazy prices you see for Lebron 1/1 cards or Jordan or any exquiste card was this guy buying them, then he got into game used. Correct me if I am wrong but he only buys from nba auctions, i have never seen him buy on ebay game used, and i am not sure if he is a player at any of the auction houses since they dont release winners names.

I emailed him once, and he was a really nice guy. I wish i still had a good email address for him, not to buy or sell, just would be a good contact to talk hoops to.

Here are my responses:

Yes, each time one of these auctions runs, and we see the increments in realized prices, the values of basketball game worn items in general rise. People see these prices and it affects their willingness to pay more for top items. Could you get $13,000 for your Tim Duncan rookie jersey? I have no clue. Did its value go up or down since the auction? Consign it to MeiGray and find out! But the point is that buying prices in general will continue to go up because the results of these auctions are a reflection of an increase in market value.

Exquisite won the complete set of All Star jerseys last year, as well, and the bidding was far more ferocious this year than last. So, why would we expect the bidding to wane next year? I expect high-end collectors will be even more aggressive next year. Did you read Sonny25's post? I expect his sentiment is shared by others. He is more determined than ever to win a Kobe or LeBron. The auction results might discourage some, but these results will only make the jerseys more desireable to hardcore collectors. And these are the folks who were placing the serious bids on these lots.

There are many high-end UD Exquisite collectors. There are collectors in the U.S., Philippines, China, Korea, Taiwan, and Europe that have consistently paid very high prices for rare Exquisite cards since 03-04 when the product first hit the market.

I'm not sure why you would assume that any particular collector bids just on NBA Auctions. NBA Auctions is unusual in that we can see the bidders. Just because we can't see the bidders in auction houses such as Grey Flannel and Hunts doesn't mean that the bidders don't exist.

Please don't think I'm being argumentative - just wanted to be comprehensive in responding to all of your questions and points. I enjoy the discussion, too.

[mbenga28]

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Barry, please give us information if possible about what items will be available next for auctions. All Star game warm-ups, Rookies Sophomores game, Weekend events, etc.? Thank you and congratulations to all who participated in the previous auction.

[jppopma]

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I looked at the auctions and did not see any of the game issued jerseys this year. Did all of the picks suit up, or did MeiGray hold on to these GI ones?

Last year, I picked up one of them....primarily because that was the only way I was able to have any chance. I was blown out, like everyone else, on the rest. This year, I didn't even try.

[worldchamps]

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Reid,

Just random thoughts on this....for a hoops fan it is great to see so much dialogue on here


Do you really think this auction makes our collections/other items go up? I am not totally disagreeing with you, but for example, i have a Tim Duncan rookie (with memorial stripe - you rarely see that). Is that worth more or less than an allstar jersey, you could debate either side, but i dont think i could get $13,000 for it?

I do wonder if 1 person buying them all, does hurt the value/hobby. "Legal" will you be likely to bid that high again next year? Honestly i dont think i will even bid next year, it kind of seems pointless.

As far as exquiste, if you know this guys history, he got his name bc he BUYS UD exquiste cards. All those crazy prices you see for Lebron 1/1 cards or Jordan or any exquiste card was this guy buying them, then he got into game used. Correct me if I am wrong but he only buys from nba auctions, i have never seen him buy on ebay game used, and i am not sure if he is a player at any of the auction houses since they dont release winners names.

I emailed him once, and he was a really nice guy. I wish i still had a good email address for him, not to buy or sell, just would be a good contact to talk hoops to.

[sportscentury]

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Maybe they will who knows I just think it will be hard for them to. The team is extremely hard to make. The starters are a popularity contest that often has nothing to do with the year someone is having. Iverson was voted a starter this year, look at how many times Carter or Tmac got starts when they had no business being on the team. Some reserve slots then end up spent on guys who should be starting and as a whole they tend to go to guys on the good teams to the point that a 2nd or even 3rd star from a good team makes it over a player from a bad team having a better statistical year. Remember that year when four pistons made it? Look at Lee despite the year he is having Lee would have been left off the team if Iverson did not pull out of the game. Plus with the upcoming summer of expected player movement around the league who knows who will come to the East such as Amare or even Dirk or Yao (though it is unlikely) who will be a virtually lck based on who they are or where Lee will be next year he could go to a powerhouse team and see his stats plummet and if the Hawks lose Joe Johnson they may end up a lottery team next year making Horford hard pressed to make it and it is hard for a Bobcat to get there he was their first allstar ever. So yes they are solid players but I am skeptical of their getting more apperances.

Legal, fair enough, but I don't think we've seen the best of these two players yet. They are young and their all-star appearances this year will only get their play more attention. Look, it's definitely not a no-brainer. If Horford or D-Lee were to never make another A.S. game, it certainly would not blow my mind. I just don't think we can count them out.

As to your points about the selection process, there is no one who thinks of it as more of a joke than I. I am a huge AI fan, but clearly he did not get in on his performance this year (far from it). T-Mac's vote count was even more offensive, given that he didn't even play. The process has hurt the game and needs to be fixed. Stern is well-respected for listening to fan, player, and analyst concerns, so perhaps he will do something to make the process reflect a balance of fan interest and performance-based merit. Unfortunately, the vast majority of fans have little clue as to what they are doing when voting. So, it should not surprise us when T-Mac and AI get vote counts like they did this year.

[legaleagle92481]

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It's just a matter of personal preference. You may not want the entire set, but I assure you Exquisite is not the only person who does. I would take the entire set in a heartbeat.

Are you sure that Lee and Horford are not going back? They seem rock solid to me. I'm on the fence about Wallace. And I agree with you that this was Z-Bo's one time to shine (long overdue in many analysts' opinions), so it is unlikely we'll see him back. Lee and Horford, though, have been consistent from day one. Neither one will ever be a superstar, but I could see them finishing with 3 or 4 A.S. appearances each before they are done.

Maybe they will who knows I just think it will be hard for them to. The team is extremely hard to make. The starters are a popularity contest that often has nothing to do with the year someone is having. Iverson was voted a starter this year, look at how many times Carter or Tmac got starts when they had no business being on the team. Some reserve slots then end up spent on guys who should be starting and as a whole they tend to go to guys on the good teams to the point that a 2nd or even 3rd star from a good team makes it over a player from a bad team having a better statistical year. Remember that year when four pistons made it? Look at Lee despite the year he is having Lee would have been left off the team if Iverson did not pull out of the game. Plus with the upcoming summer of expected player movement around the league who knows who will come to the East such as Amare or even Dirk or Yao (though it is unlikely) who will be a virtually lck based on who they are or where Lee will be next year he could go to a powerhouse team and see his stats plummet and if the Hawks lose Joe Johnson they may end up a lottery team next year making Horford hard pressed to make it and it is hard for a Bobcat to get there he was their first allstar ever. So yes they are solid players but I am skeptical of their getting more apperances.

[sportscentury]

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My sentiments exactely I collect all four sports so I am glad he stays out of the others. If he were into baseball your Rollins would have went for like 30 grand. He made the LA Times last June for bidding 35k on a jersey Kobe wore in only game 1 of the NBA Finals.

It was only worn in one game of the Finals (Game 1), but there is a good chance it was worn in earlier Playoff games, as well. This is typical for the Lakers. For example, the Game 2 Finals jerseys (white/alternate) were also worn in Game 7 of the Lakers/Rockets Western Semi-Conference Finals series. The Finals patches were added after the fact.

$35,000 is a good chunk of change. But it may seem like a bargain soon with Sonny25 willing to go to $50G this year. Warm up the presses, LA Times!

I would love to have these jerseys in my PC, but I think this is great for the hobby. All of our collections go up in value each time one of these auctions runs. And it shows you the trust that high-end collectors have in MeiGray, which is primarily known for hockey but has become the biggest name in hoops now, as well (or, at least, is one of the top two).

[sportscentury]

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if i had unlimited funds i would not want them all there is so much too collect over all sports why load up on one thing? plus alot of the guys are not going back like wallace, lee, horford, randolph. dont get me wrong if i had to i would have gladly gotten one of those just to have one but if i had duncan, nash or jerseys like that its hard to get excited about a lee or a wallace.

It's just a matter of personal preference. You may not want the entire set, but I assure you Exquisite is not the only person who does. I would take the entire set in a heartbeat.

Are you sure that Lee and Horford are not going back? They seem rock solid to me. I'm on the fence about Wallace. And I agree with you that this was Z-Bo's one time to shine (long overdue in many analysts' opinions), so it is unlikely we'll see him back. Lee and Horford, though, have been consistent from day one. Neither one will ever be a superstar, but I could see them finishing with 3 or 4 A.S. appearances each before they are done.

[legaleagle92481]

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Wow is all I can say after reading that this person won every All-Star jersey tonight. I feel for you hoops collectors on the forum who would just like to have one of these jerseys.

I'm just glad that this person doesn't collect baseball or they would have outbid me on the Rollins WS jersey I recently picked up for sure.

My sentiments exactely I collect all four sports so I am glad he stays out of the others. If he were into baseball your Rollins would have went for like 30 grand. He made the LA Times last June for bidding 35k on a jersey Kobe wore in only game 1 of the NBA Finals.

[legaleagle92481]

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I am glad to know this, i thought it was a little odd that so many ended at $13,020..or in that range.

If i won crazy money in the lottery, i would probably try to win them all too...but it would seem that even with unlimited funds you would get to a point where you have too much?? I think he has won 90% of all the auctions that were from the allstar game and the finals, and all the big time jerseys that have come up.....but like i said in an ealier post, to each and his own...im not here to judge.

if i had unlimited funds i would not want them all there is so much too collect over all sports why load up on one thing? plus alot of the guys are not going back like wallace, lee, horford, randolph. dont get me wrong if i had to i would have gladly gotten one of those just to have one but if i had duncan, nash or jerseys like that its hard to get excited about a lee or a wallace.

[Dewey2007]

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I had $13,000 to spend so I bid up every jersey into that range that explains the high prices. I would have been happy with any of them but a few I capped my limit at 10 grand on (no way I am paying more than that that for Lee or Wallace) and I missed Carmello and Billups. I may not have won but I fought him hard and if he keeps getting fought this hard maybe eventually other people will be able to get theirs.

Wow is all I can say after reading that this person won every All-Star jersey tonight. I feel for you hoops collectors on the forum who would just like to have one of these jerseys.

I'm just glad that this person doesn't collect baseball or they would have outbid me on the Rollins WS jersey I recently picked up for sure.

[legaleagle92481]

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I told myself I wouldn't spend no more than $2,000 for a player like Wallace, but ended up going up to $5,000. lol

desperation sets in after awhile i was not planning to go to 10 at 1st either but to just win one would have been so cool regardless of whos name is on the back.

[sportscentury]

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Dont be supprised if most these jerseys end up cut up into little cards "exquiste" could work for the Exquiste card Co. Not sure who their managed by could be UD. Lets hear you opinions.

Anthony/Christopher/Stephen/Michael -

How are you (all) today? So nice of you to chime in. How is your Deron Williams "photomatched" jersey doing? (Cough)

As for your suggestion, with all due respect, it is ridiculous. UD doesn't even have the NBA contract any longer. You have not a clue as to what you are talking about.

Here is a question: Who is Christopher Mandarino and how did you come to select this name for your newest GUU userid?

Have a great night.

[hiflyer56]

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Dont be supprised if most these jerseys end up cut up into little cards "exquiste" could work for the Exquiste card Co. Not sure who their managed by could be UD. Lets hear you opinions.