Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

[legaleagle92481]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

Wow. Yankees that is extreme. After reading your posts I am done playing devil's advocate and going into the let it go camp (which the two times it has happened to me I have done anyway and one time when the item was a Dominque Wilkens basketball the seller gave me a refund plus a free Dominque Wilkins autographed photo for my troubles which was very cool). If I were you I would safeguard my Ebay user id because everyone on here probably will add you to their blocked bidder list otherwise.

[skipcarayislegend]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

If I were you I would safeguard my Ebay user id because everyone on here probably will add you to their blocked bidder list otherwise.

+1

[yankees506]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

Im just a person who wont stand for the old bait and switch. I have seen sellers on ebay do this kind of thing to get traffic into their ebay stores and i think its terrible. I dont think the members on this forum would have such brain freezes and not know how much they are listing items for. Also we where talking about all kinds of auctions not just buy it now options. So if i list an arod gu bat and it sells for $100 can i just tell the buyer, sorry try again? Thats not very ethical, as far as being banned, legal your wayyy off and that was kind of a curveball

[earlywynnfan]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

Wow. Yankees that is extreme. After reading your posts I am done playing devil's advocate and going into the let it go camp (which the two times it has happened to me I have done anyway and one time when the item was a Dominque Wilkens basketball the seller gave me a refund plus a free Dominque Wilkins autographed photo for my troubles which was very cool). If I were you I would safeguard my Ebay user id because everyone on here probably will add you to their blocked bidder list otherwise.

Funny, I was just about to ask Yankees for his ebay handle so I could block him! On the other hand, it's refreshing to finally meet someone who has never made a mistake in his life.

I keep reading about all the trauma over ebay, and I wonder if I've been blessed. I've sold maybe a thousand autos plus some other items in the past year. I had the mail lose exactly 1 item. I've had exactly 1 non-payer. And I've had 2 idiots who couldn't read and decided to slam me with negatives. On the other hand I've had 3 items returned, one because PSA deemed it a forgery (which made me laugh because it came from a large lot with a blanket LOA from -- wait for it -- PSA!), one because the buyer didn't want it and I didn't feel like arguing, and one because I didn't describe it as well as I should've. Overall, I'm quite happy with the ebay experience so far.

Oh, yeah, and I had one buyer I had to refund money to because I have a newly decorated ball, and yes, it's "priceless" to me!

Ken
earlywynnfan5@hotmail.com

[eisenreich8]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

Im just a person who wont stand for the old bait and switch. I have seen sellers on ebay do this kind of thing to get traffic into their ebay stores and i think its terrible. I dont think the members on this forum would have such brain freezes and not know how much they are listing items for. Also we where talking about all kinds of auctions not just buy it now options. So if i list an arod gu bat and it sells for $100 can i just tell the buyer, sorry try again? Thats not very ethical, as far as being banned, legal your wayyy off and that was kind of a curveball

Members of this forum are human and would be inclined to make human errors. The point is most eBayers are NOT members of this forum. There is more than a dash of dirtbag in the eBay community, and ethics is a confusing term in relation to many eBayers and in life in general.

In other words, if you dropped your wallet in a room full of 100 GUU forum members, I firmly believe you would have an excellent chance of having it returned to you. If you dropped your wallet in a room full of eBayers, strangers, card dealers, your high school reunion, etc etc., well, good luck.

I, too, don't count my chickens before they're hatched. When the item arrives at my office (to keep the wife's suspicions at bay) I see if I got a decent deal.

I once listed an expensive emerald ring on Ebay for my wife and just plain dumbed out, did not put a reserve. This stuff happens. A woman emailed us right away and mentioned the lack of a reserve. She could have, but did not, take advantage of our mistake.

I am glad you apparently were raised with ethical principles, as was I. But now, at the age of 50, I am just a wee bit more cynical (and a damn sight more forgiving) when it comes to things like GU items, or Pez, or NASCAR diecast, or whatever else one would collect.

Grace and patience can be conditioned into one with age and experience. Don't drop your expectations of yourself, but don't try to reform the world as you will just buy yourself a whopping dose of frustration and discouragement. Don't forget, eBay is a relatively new phenomenon and people are constantly coming and going, and many, many members perhaps do not have the agility with setting up auctions as you possess or expect. Or the integrity that you seek.

I had a guy buy a $250 fish finder from me a few months ago and he emailed me after he won the auction to claim that he had just lost his job. Was I upset? Yes, for about 30 seconds. But I had a second chance offer and that person accepted the deal. The guy who backed out? It was just his BID, not cash in my hand. Not the real deal. Just his bid. Fantasy. So, the check I received in place of his bid was what I sold it for.

It's just eBay. It feeds your interest/addiction/hobby and is a wonderful way to accumulate anything. How in God's name did we ever put a set of cards together before 1997 or so? Travel from card shop to card shop and show to show, eating up your weekends on elusive searches. Now it's the click of a mouse. That, I believe, has entitled people to feel that they can never be screwed or betrayed or hustled. It ain't gonna happen.

[yankees506]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

[quote=eisenreich8;203067]Members of this forum are human and would be inclined to make human errors. The point is most eBayers are NOT members of this forum. There is more than a dash of dirtbag in the eBay community, and ethics is a confusing term in relation to many eBayers and in life in general.

In other words, if you dropped your wallet in a room full of 100 GUU forum members, I firmly believe you would have an excellent chance of having it returned to you. If you dropped your wallet in a room full of eBayers, strangers, card dealers, your high school reunion, etc etc., well, good luck.

Well said and agreed

[aeneas01]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

Its clear that if someone is so unconcerned with what they are selling that they would put a $35 price tag on a $350 item or $5 for $5000, then they shouldnt have the item to begin with.

no offense, but that's just crazy talk and makes no sense whatsoever...

Im not the person a seller would want this "error" to happen to.

sure you are, you just don't know it - you would be just as powerless to do anything about as anyone else.

There is a thing called small claims court and all id have to do is give the proof and the seller would have to show up where the claim was made, so even if you live in LA and i live in NY i think the seller would just find it more economical to send the item.

you have that backwards my friend, you're the one that would have to travel to the seller's state in order to file your small claims complaint. if you tried filing in your state the seller would just have it successfully dismissed given jurisdiction limitations.

so, again, tell me how you would successfully get this bat. be specific - tell me how, before ever again resting or being content, you would successfully get your hands on this bat. you couldn't - not if the seller didn't want to give it up.

the bottom line is legal recourse is not an option in such a situation, at least not a viable (i.e, economically feasible) option. folks love to say "i'll sue" at the drop of a hat - sounds tough, sounds like they mean business. but in most small dollar amount cases, it's all bark and no bite - and most ebay sellers know it.

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[gingi79]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

I've sold maybe a thousand autos plus some other items in the past year. I had the mail lose exactly 1 item. I've had exactly 1 non-payer. And I've had 2 idiots who couldn't read and decided to slam me with negatives.

Ken, I just had to say you haven't been blessed, you've dealt with the Saints, Arch-Angels, Cherubs and maybe even Jesus himself. 1000 sales and 1 non-bidder in a year?
Holy cow! That's incredible!
I have had dozens of non-bidders, deadbeats and liars in my time and that's hundreds of items over a 10 year period, man! Good for you, I'm jealous.

Now back to our regularly scheduled complaining already in progress.

[yankees506]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

no offense, but that's just crazy talk and makes no sense whatsoever...



sure you are, you just don't know it - you would be just as powerless to do anything about as anyone else.



you have that backwards my friend, you're the one that would have to travel to the seller's state in order to file your small claims complaint. if you tried filing in your state the seller would just have it successfully dismissed given jurisdiction limitations.

so, again, tell me how you would successfully get this bat. be specific - tell me how, before ever again resting or being content, you would successfully get your hands on this bat. you couldn't - not if the seller didn't want to give it up.

the bottom line is legal recourse is not an option in such a situation, at least not a viable (i.e, economically feasible) option. folks love to say "i'll sue" at the drop of a hat - sounds tough, sounds like they mean business. but in most small dollar amount cases, it's all bark and no bite - and most ebay sellers know it.

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I dont sell any of my items so i dont know why im feeling people taking offence, and sir you may want to check your facts. but this is not about personal feelings, my opinion was simply that if you decide to sell an item via the auction format you have decided to let others tell you what they will pay for your item, and i dont think its right for a seller to get my hopes up and then pull the rug from under me. If i win an auction it is mine, if not then why is there ebay or any other auction format anyway??? I have never seen a major action house with a disclaimer that "if you win an auction it is not yours unless we are happy with the price". Just set a reserve and thats the only way i would understand. And we all know that ebay is big flea market, you win some and you lose a bunch. If i do sell anything i think its safer to stick with a bin.

[aeneas01]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

If i win an auction it is mine...

nope, not necessarily.

if not then why is there ebay or any other auction format anyway??? I have never seen a major action house with a disclaimer that "if you win an auction it is not yours unless we are happy with the price".

ebay is not a major auction house nor are they auctioneers.

If i do sell anything i think its safer to stick with a bin.

careful where you put that decimal point...

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[yankees506]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

[quote=aeneas01;203169]nope, not necessarily.
How is it not mine if i win it?


ebay is not a major auction house nor are they auctioneers.
Ebay is an auction vehicle, your selling your item via an auction


careful where you put that decimal point...
You get three chances to review your listing, dont think i can make 3 mistakes at once

[aeneas01]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

How is it not mine if i win it?

the same way the cash isn't yours if you win a bet and then a deadbeat stiffs you, the same way the prom queen isn't yours after you win her heart and then she dumps you, the same way the arod bat isn't yours after you win it on ebay for next to nothing and then the seller ignores you - of course you could spend the rest of your life telling folks that this stuff is yours but at some point, i would think, you would want to face reality and just get on with your life....

Ebay is an auction vehicle, your selling your item via an auction

that's exactly right - you are selling your item using an auction format, not ebay. so, again, ebay is not an auction house nor are they auctioneers.

You get three chances to review your listing, dont think i can make 3 mistakes at once

time will tell....

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[yankees506]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

the same way the cash isn't yours if you win a bet and then a deadbeat stiffs you, the same way the prom queen isn't yours after you win her heart and then she dumps you, the same way the arod bat isn't yours after you win it on ebay for next to nothing and then the seller ignores you - of course you could spend the rest of your life telling folks that this stuff is yours but at some point, i would think, you would want to face reality and just get on with your life....

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Huh?? A person who would sell an item then decide not to complete the transaction is shady in my opinion. Like i said before, dont sell an item via an auction if your not gonna sell it, that smells of an indian giver and nobody likes that

[ferro39]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

when people are listing laundry lists of items, they're bound to make mistakes. it's part of life

a couple of years ago, i bought a gamer with a BIN of $200 or $300, which was an amazing price for a piece. being a half glass empty guy by nature, i had my suspicions. as it turned out, the guy forgot to tack a 1 onto the front of his price. he explained the situation and i was fine with getting a refund.

people need to use common sense when dealing with things like this. i mean, do you really want to take a guy to small claims court because he made a mistake that any of us could have made? i dont think so

or if you feel it necessary to make an example out of someone, why not go after an obvious d0uche--like someone who just isnt happy with the final selling price and wants an out?

the OP said that the guy made a mistake.

people make mistakes.

move on.

[skipcarayislegend]

Re: Anybody ever purchase an item and have the seller refuse to sell?

Yankees506, curious how old you are. Would you mind sharing your ebay id?