$1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTON WA

[sportscrazy13]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

My two cents either go to his door step or take the loss.

BINGO!

Guys like this that rip people off on ebay, 9 times out of 10 will curl up like a school girl and pee their pants when you show up at the door.

[nick1980]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

well he wouldn't be hard to meet in person, I asked him if he allows for local pick up and this was his reply:

Dear nickcecilia,

I would be OK with local pick up; I'd actually prefer it as I wouldn't have to worry about the post office damaging the bat (I would also prefer cash on a local pick up). These are extremely rare; especially a 2009, due the significance of Ichiro's 2009 season. I wish you the best. There are a lot of watchers...
If you have anymore questions, don't hesitate to write. I will get back to you as promptly as possible.

Josh

- ichiro51collector

[BrewCrewSackers]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

I hate the, "I'm going out of town" excuse.I used to get that a lot from Mikita Sports on braun stuff. I would buy all kinds of Braund items from him and a lot of the time the cert. or holo would be missing. Then after a second email he would use the "i had a car accident" or "I just had a baby" excuse. One of the main reasons i don't do any buisness with him anymore.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

My two cents either go to his door step or take the loss. You can try getting the cops involved they will do nada on something like this 99% of the time. You can try the lawsuit but good luck collecting, the guy is probably as we lawyers say "judgement proof" and you will have to pay legal fees.

I forgot to say also there is an old expression that I think applies here "don't throw good money after bad."

[legaleagle92481]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

The best recommendation that I can give you is to file a civil law suit against the seller. It's very difficult to prove this case as being criminal, despite the evidence as shown. To prove Theft by False Pretenses you first need to show that the seller had no intention of shipping or possession of the item in question and made the sale with the intent of keeping the money and not shipping the item. It's much easier to sue him civily by taking all of the correspondants from your email and ebay to show that an agreement was made (cash for the bat), the cash payement was completed and the bat was never shipped. It should be a very easy case to win in civil court. Keep in mind, a police report is nothing more then a piece of paper to show that an incident occurred. It will NOT get your money returned unless it's proven that a crime occurred, a suspect is detained and the court rules that he has to pay for the item as well as possible probation or jail time if he is found guilty. Your best bet is civil court.

My two cents either go to his door step or take the loss. You can try getting the cops involved they will do nada on something like this 99% of the time. You can try the lawsuit but good luck collecting, the guy is probably as we lawyers say "judgement proof" and you will have to pay legal fees.

[justinbittner220]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

I like Rose's plan...

[rose14]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

I can tell you if this was me, I would spend the couple of hundred on a plane ticket and show up on his door step and see what he does then.

[d4347]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

The best recommendation that I can give you is to file a civil law suit against the seller. It's very difficult to prove this case as being criminal, despite the evidence as shown. To prove Theft by False Pretenses you first need to show that the seller had no intention of shipping or possession of the item in question and made the sale with the intent of keeping the money and not shipping the item. It's much easier to sue him civily by taking all of the correspondants from your email and ebay to show that an agreement was made (cash for the bat), the cash payement was completed and the bat was never shipped. It should be a very easy case to win in civil court. Keep in mind, a police report is nothing more then a piece of paper to show that an incident occurred. It will NOT get your money returned unless it's proven that a crime occurred, a suspect is detained and the court rules that he has to pay for the item as well as possible probation or jail time if he is found guilty. Your best bet is civil court.

[sox83cubs84]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

I don't buy it that the Washington police do not investigate these types of cases or that the $$ amount being only $1400 is too small. I was ripped off on an overstock auction for $500 years back and the CA. police dept assigned a detective to the case who I email and spoke to directly.

I sent all the evidence and was told they would investigate but was also told these types of cases were hard to solve.

At the very least you should be able to file a police report for record.

Unfortunately, police forces giving the short shrift to claims of memorabilia theft and related issues is not limited to Washington state.

In 1999, when I was ill for most of the summer, a Chicago ballhawk of the era (John Witt) stayed at my residence to help out during the summer. After he left, we realized that he stole about 8 or 9 jerseys, a bat, and some baseballs from my collection. We reported the theft to Berwyn police, and the detective who took the report did so with an attitude that made it clear he thought it was a waste of time. He left the Berwyn force within a year, and nobody else pursued the case. As a result, when fellow Ballhawks spotted him working in Port Charlotte FL (when the Rangers trained there), I went to the police force and was told that they couldn't do anything because no extradition order was ever placed on Witt. Over the years he has pretty much paid me off, but there are others (my wife and a Riverside IL collector) who haven't seen squat.

Bottom line...law enforcement incompetence led to my wife and a collector friend, between them, being out over $1,000 and letting him walk when they could have grabbed him.

I hope this case with the Ichro seller ends up with a better result than my dealings with Witt did.

Dave Miedema

[al3xmac10]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

Here is one of his current Ichiro auctions:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170561108764

[al3xmac10]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

November 3, 2010: eBay user [ichiro51collector] is back posting items on eBay.
I sent him the email below, hopefully he can respond and we can resolve this issue. I will inform everyone of updates, thank you.


[Josh, this is Alex. I have not heard from you since July 18, 2010. At the time, you said that [You will receive your bat shortly.]. But it has not arrived yet. Where is my [Ichiro 2004 game-used auto bat w/ PSA/DNA coa]? Please send via USPS Priority Mail w/ tracking number immediately to: [(address)]. Please let me know the tracking number after shipping.

If you do now want to ship the bat, then just return my money via $1,425.00 Postal Money Order to the address above. Please, please reply to confirm; I do not want to lose my money. I hope you understand, thank you.]

[metsbats]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

I don't buy it that the Washington police do not investigate these types of cases or that the $$ amount being only $1400 is too small. I was ripped off on an overstock auction for $500 years back and the CA. police dept assigned a detective to the case who I email and spoke to directly.

I sent all the evidence and was told they would investigate but was also told these types of cases were hard to solve.

At the very least you should be able to file a police report for record.

[Neal]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

He is selling another one right now.

[mhhowelljr]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

not sure if it helps any but your guy has been scamming folks for years on ebay. i got taken by him a few years back but have lost all the contact info i had for him. here are 2 other ebay account names he used in the past.
JOSHHANSON51
PETEB1105

not sure what his name really is. josh hanson or PETE BURGESS. you might want to try and track down the BURGESS name as well.

i imagine his current ebay name will not last long as he has a habit of getting banned from ebay. he'll pop up again and it will never be hard to find him since he sells almost exclusively only ichiro items and most of them are really expensive rare stuff.
sorry i couldn't give you any more info.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: $1,425 FRAUD: [Ichiro 2004 autographed bat PSA/DNA], Mr. Joshua Hanson (ebay id: ichiro51collector), RENTO

Your best bet is to hire a lawyer who practices in Washington State to file a small claims court lawsuit. Yes it will cost you some money but it is a simple case so it won't cost you all that much. You likely won't get your legal fees back but chalk it up as a lesson in if something sounds true good to be true it probably is. $1,425 is crazy cheap for a real Ichiro gamer, esp. one that is autographed. You can find the lawyer by googling Bar Associations near Renton Washington. Give one close to there a call and they will refer you to someone free of charge. The authorities will do nothing over $1,425, most of the time or if they do it will take forever for them to act sports memorabilia fraud is not a huge concern of theirs unless it is on a very, very large scale.