Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

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  • eGameUsed
    Banned
    • Jan 2006
    • 1256

    #16
    Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

    AJ and others! Howard does in fact have an issue with me, but will not be a man and work it out with me. I have been open and honest on this forum, but Howard did never respond to the fake Berkman jersey he was trying to sell. No problem! When I questioned him, he has turned into what you see today. BTW, I did have photographic proof the jersey was not as described. End of story! Howard will not respond to it.

    Also, Howard has been an instigator between myself and Rob Steinmetz on more than one occasion. Fortunately, Rob and I have been men about the situation and been able to resolve our issues.

    Grow up Howard! For goodness sakes, whay are you part of this forum and hobby?

    As for Astros items! I do buy from the team store as they do get nice items at times. I also buy direct from 3 inside people. Why do you care Howard?

    Long story short, I have never sold an items that was not as described! If I did, I corrected myself or ending the auction/item early. I admit when I am wrong. Too bad we all can't do that Howard!

    Thanks,

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    • hblakewolf
      Banned
      • Nov 2005
      • 1870

      #17
      Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

      I find it interesting that you continue to be the mouthpiece for Boyd. Do you buy from him, and find it to your best interest to defend and try to him? Clearly, you can't be this naive.

      I have received dozens of emails over the last year from Forum readers who are shocked by the completely unprofessional and downright unethical behavior shown from Boyd. First, he indicates he has a source for Astros equipment deep inside the organization. It is later learned DIRECTLY FROM DENNIS LIBORIO (the Astros equipment manager) his source is the team retail store. Boyd admitted this only when confronted with the facts (See the old Forum site, August, 2005 postings). Then he lists a Pujols bat and indicates it is 100% original. A fellow Forum reader provides documented proof that this "all original bat" was sold earlier on Ebay in 2 pieces and Boyd not only glued them back together, but doctored the knob with stars. BOYD ADMITTED THIS WHEN CONFRONTED-BUT ONLY WHEN CONFRONTED.

      My Berkman All Star jersey? Boyd reserved it, however, after sending him quite a few emails and talking to him on the phone about his payment, he never sends payment or responds to emails or phone calls. From other posts on this Forum, it appears this is Boyd's MO. Likewise, he has reserved countless jerseys from other collectors including Rob Steinmetz and NEVER sent payment. This is fact, AJ, as I have had interest in several of Rob's jerseys and bats, only to learn they are on hold to Boyd. After a few passing weeks, however, Rob has called me (a few times) to let me know these jerseys and bats are once again available, as Boyd never sent any funds to pay for them. Don't believe it? Ask Steinmetz how many items Boyd has reserved, however, never sent funds.

      Aj, you ask if I have a vendetta against him? Not at all. I simply put him in the same category as the other collectors who offer items that are doctored, pretend to have deep team sources when in reality have none and reserve items from dealers and never pay. No vendetta here, just a complete dislike for Boyd and similar unprofessional, unethical and untruthful people.



      Howard Wolf
      hblakewolf@patmedia.net


      Howard-

      Can you go one week with out bringing up the same old crap about Chris Boyd on the Forum? We are all sick of hearing about it. What did he do to you now? The guy shares his opinion about about the Berkman All Star jersey you were selling and now you have a personal vendetta against him? It's always the same thing everytime I read one of your posts.

      AJ[/quote]

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      • eGameUsed
        Banned
        • Jan 2006
        • 1256

        #18
        Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

        Howard,

        Could you please forward me just a couple of the dozen of e-mails you received from people about me?

        Also (and again), I DO BUY bats from the Astros team store. I ALSO get bats from other sources. The Astros team store does not sell cleats, hats, helmets, UNCRACKED bats, batting gloves, gloves, jerseys, etc.

        Also, there has only been one item I have asked Rob to take back and that was one Astros jersey last year. Every item I have ever reserved and Rob asked for a check, I have paid for. There is not a single item I have ever reserved and not paid for. That is false and you have no proof for that!

        I suggest you make sure and get the facts right before putting information in a public forum like that! BTW, nice way of addressing the fake Berkman again. Divert to something about me! Be a man!

        I am done with this thread! A forum member asked their opinion of a jersey, I offered an opinion to help that person, and they people trying to destroy the usefulness of this forum had to put theire jealousy and two cents in.

        OH yeah, Troy Kinunen e-mailed me this morning after reading the thread and apparently didn't get my reply that I mentioned above. I forwwarded it from back in JUne so maybe he can render a different opinion on the Biggio currently listed on eBay.

        Thanks,

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        • trsent
          Banned
          • Nov 2005
          • 3739

          #19
          Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

          I do not understand this argument...

          A team store is a "Source". I wouldn't always want to tell my customers for some items came from a place they can but it themselves so I'd just say I bought the item from my "Source".

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          • skinner16
            Junior Member
            • Aug 2006
            • 28

            #20
            Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

            Originally posted by sportscentury
            Skinner,

            How do you know this? (I'm not saying you're wrong ... I'm just curious as to how you can be sure of this).

            Thanks,
            Reid
            I know him. and there are no 06 jerseys out.

            I don't want to get in the middle of all of the fighting but some people either need to name sources or stop claiming the have "game used" items.

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            • sportscentury
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2005
              • 2008

              #21
              Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

              [quote=skinner16]I know him. and there are no 06 jerseys out.[quote]

              Skinner,

              Thanks for your response. Do you, by chance, have access to his items?

              Thanks,
              Reid
              Always looking for top NBA game worn items of superstar and Hall-of-Fame-caliber players (especially Kobe, LeBron, MJ, Curry and Durant). Also looking for game worn items of all players from special events (e.g., All Star Game, NBA Finals, milestone games, etc.). Please contact me at gameusedequip2@hotmail.com. Thank you.

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              • obeyone10
                Member
                • Nov 2005
                • 45

                #22
                Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                Where did I ever make a direct reference to a Manny Ramirez Bat? It was the Ortiz that I mentioned. And YES it was the Red Ortiz Jersey. Steiner has an exclusive with Ortiz and an assistant personally takes all game used items. Why to you think that people giving first hand knowledge and experience are putting a bad rap on the memorabilia industry. I thought this website was made by collectors for collectors to share valid/relevant information. PMI has exclusives with many star athletes and takes pictures of everything as proof. Besides LockerRoom, I don't see other companies backing every item with photos.

                Scot Monette, President of ESM personally wrote this in an email to me in response to my post (aol screenname ASIsports):
                "Just because you worked for Brad for a short period of time does not give you the right to assume that we do things the same way.
                I know what bats you are referring to and since you were there during the move you also know that we did not keep any of those.....
                In reference to the Biggio I do not claim to be a expert so when I buy jerseys from sources other than players I make them MOST OF THE TIME have them be authenticated by Mears. So you comment of Troy or Mears authenticating ESM jerseys is totally incorrect. I did not send that jersey to Mears somebody else did. You can validate that by checking the Mears letter. Why don't you say great job to us about getting some awesome pieces from Don Zimmer or getting a signing with Manny Ramirez (who everybody knows is a tough signer). What you will learn as you get older is take care of your house/business and try to find positives. So to end this email I wish you luck in your business and congratulate you on all your recent Boston signings and game used."

                What happenend to 99% Scot? Quit making the claims that everything is coming from the athletes themselves and I'll stop giving my firsthand opinion and recommendations on game used items.

                Bryan Oberle
                941.539.4001
                obeyone10@aol.com

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                • skinner16
                  Junior Member
                  • Aug 2006
                  • 28

                  #23
                  Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                  I do not have access.

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                  • astros*bats
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2005
                    • 197

                    #24
                    Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                    Originally posted by hblakewolf
                    a complete dislike for Boyd and similar unprofessional, unethical and untruthful people.

                    Howard,

                    That's what I was waiting to hear. It's obvious that you don't like Chris and that you do not care for his business practices. But is that really something that you need to share over and over and over again in a public forum? He offered his opinion on an Astros jersey for a fellow collector, as I am sure that you would do for a Phillies jersey, and then you call out his team sources and business practices. He wasn't even selling anything, just trying to help out with some information.

                    Originally posted by hblakewolf
                    I find it interesting that you continue to be the mouthpiece for Boyd. Do you buy from him, and find it to your best interest to defend and try to him?

                    I am not defending anyone here. I believe that the only other time I made a comment was in the whole Berkman jersey saga. I have bought many Astros bats from Chris including a Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman, and a couple Jeff Kent bats. I did not really defend him, as there was nothing to defend. If you don't care for his business practices, or anyone elses, that's cool. But again, it's brought up over and over again.

                    Originally posted by hblakewolf
                    First, he indicates he has a source for Astros equipment deep inside the organization. His source is the team retail store

                    I agree with Joel, a team store is a source. I have not heard him mention that he has a team source "deep inside the organization", so I can not comment on that. All I know is that if the bats that he has sold me were from the team store, then he took a big loss. Bagwell bats sell for over $1000, Berkman $500, and Kent was about $500 when with the Astros. I paid less than half of those prices on each of the bats that I bought from him. It just really doesn't make any sense to do that don't you think?

                    I think that both of you are a valuable part of the forum and have helped countless numbers of collectors including myself. The countless arguements over the same things really takes away from the purpose of this great forum and also keeps people away. Some things can be said man to man and behind closed doors that do not have to brought up in a public forum. That's all I was trying to say.

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                    • bat_master
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2005
                      • 514

                      #25
                      Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                      Originally posted by astros*bats
                      Howard,

                      That's what I was waiting to hear. It's obvious that you don't like Chris and that you do not care for his business practices. But is that really something that you need to share over and over and over again in a public forum? He offered his opinion on an Astros jersey for a fellow collector, as I am sure that you would do for a Phillies jersey, and then you call out his team sources and business practices. He wasn't even selling anything, just trying to help out with some information.

                      I am not defending anyone here. I believe that the only other time I made a comment was in the whole Berkman jersey saga. I have bought many Astros bats from Chris including a Jeff Bagwell, Lance Berkman, and a couple Jeff Kent bats. I did not really defend him, as there was nothing to defend. If you don't care for his business practices, or anyone elses, that's cool. But again, it's brought up over and over again.

                      I agree with Joel, a team store is a source. I have not heard him mention that he has a team source "deep inside the organization", so I can not comment on that. All I know is that if the bats that he has sold me were from the team store, then he took a big loss. Bagwell bats sell for over $1000, Berkman $500, and Kent was about $500 when with the Astros. I paid less than half of those prices on each of the bats that I bought from him. It just really doesn't make any sense to do that don't you think?

                      I think that both of you are a valuable part of the forum and have helped countless numbers of collectors including myself. The countless arguements over the same things really takes away from the purpose of this great forum and also keeps people away. Some things can be said man to man and behind closed doors that do not have to brought up in a public forum. That's all I was trying to say.
                      AJ - I couldn't have said that better myself. I agree wholeheartedly with each of your points. Everyone makes mistakes. It's like Eric said in another thread: "Mistakes are going to happen, it's how you handle those mistakes which defines your character."

                      Tim Byington
                      www.tjsportsmn.com
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                      Tim Byington
                      Hall of Fame Bats
                      tim@hofbats.com

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                      • davidjacobs
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 4

                        #26
                        Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                        First, I Will Say That You Might Know A Few Things About The Industry. I Will Tell That One David Ortiz Does Not Have A Game Used Contract With Steiner, Only For Autographs (dont Talk Like A Puppy If You Dont Know What You Are Talking About). Second, If You Think That Having An Exclusive For Game Used Items With A Player Means That You Can't Get Items From The Clubhouse Or The Player Still, (where Have You Been For The Last Years). I Am Sure You Are A Very Bright Young Man, I Am Sure You Are A Very Smart Man And Hopefully Successful. But If You Think That Items Dont Slip Out Of Every Clubhouse, Including Yankees, Mets And Astros Then You Should Go Back To Being A City Bus Driver. This Business Is Not For You. I Am A Collector Not In The Business. I Get Items From Every Clubhouse And Every Team I Want. Thats What Being Around For 20 Years With Money Gets You. By The Way, I Just Got 7 Mets Jerseys Friday From Fedex, Amazing Steiner Has An Exclusive!!!!! Yes, From 06.

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                        • Eric
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 1970
                          • 2848

                          #27
                          Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                          David-

                          I have sent you a private message, an email to the address you have listed (though you misspelled the address when you registered) and posted on the forum for you to contact me.

                          Please contact me so you can continue to post
                          Eric
                          ecky3@aol.com
                          Always looking for game used San Diego Chargers items...

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                          • davidjacobs
                            Banned
                            • Aug 2006
                            • 4

                            #28
                            Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                            will do, thank you

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                            • obeyone10
                              Member
                              • Nov 2005
                              • 45

                              #29
                              Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                              David?? What is your deal. I gave my advice on the Ortiz Jersey, the Biggio jersey, and some bats that I know are on the market. I've worked for the Red Sox and the Marlins. I know stuff gets out of clubhouses...everyone does. I know exclusives don't mean crap even on the autograph side. I've had players bats stolen right out of the clubhouse the day after the season ended. Don't personally try to bash me on this site, you don't know me...email me like a man and we can resolve this in person.
                              obeyone10@aol.com
                              bryan oberle

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                              • bigtime59
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2005
                                • 1020

                                #30
                                Re: Craig Biggio Game Used 2006 Astros Road Jersey ESM

                                Originally posted by eGameUsed
                                All Astros jerseys are made by the team in the clubhouse.
                                I am not disputing this, because I don't know the answer one way or the other, but I am surprised by this, as it would put the Astros at odds with the rest of MLB as far as jerseys go.
                                The Orioles make the jerseys for call-ups, and any extras a player might need (Daniel Cabrera went through a bunch of them last season, as he couldn't decide on a size), but the firs run for the 25-man roster comes pre-sewn from Majestic.
                                Can anyone shed light on other teams practices?

                                Thanks,
                                Mark Sutton
                                bigtime39@aol.com
                                Mark
                                msutton59@gmail.com

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