Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

[notslip0602286]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

asking for my money back, meaning, i can still get my money back from who I got it from. again, if you have questions, you can email me and ask. I have nothing to hide, thanks.

[nickacs]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

I've never accused anyone here in this thread of anything.

I agree with the recent comments, like alaxis, that you asked for everyone's opinion if it was real or not after you bought it from Ebay for $1800. Trsent and others expressed their concern over the jersey and offered in several ways to help personally and guide you to others.
Then you go on hiatus for a week or two and then the jersey does "suddenly" pop up on Ebay for $2500 BIN/$5k buy and then the auction ends and you re-list it for $3k BIN/$6k buy.

However, the overall problem with this whole thread/and you is that you STILL don't know if it's legit or not, yet you sell the jersey for 2.5x you paid and now 3x. So, you could very well be re-selling a potentially completely worthless $200 at best "game worn" Marino jersey and dup someone else of 3 TIMES the amount you paid for it??? Am I wrong here?? I mean, come on man. That's the part of this hobby that I absolutely HATE with a passion. I've been dupped over the last couple years by your very own "favorite" auctions houses and luckily one of them manned up and refunded my money a whole year later.

IF the jersey was indeed real/"game worn" Marino jersey, would you really re-sell it at all? I guess you certainly could for 3x the amount, but for that it MUST be a MEARS A10 jersey and nothing less. But the fact you ARE re-selling it with no proof of it's legitimacy just adds to the bigger problem here.

My email is in my profile and your more than welcome to email me as well, but I think this should be brought out into the open and discussed here civilly on this public forum. Nothing wrong with that.

I see all these other threads talking about Ebay/forum users dupping collectors, so I'd like to hopefully see this thread turn around for the best of you and everyone and it IS a legit jersey that can be proven and everyone can be happy. But looks like right now, there are opinions expressed on here that the jersey is not legit. Let's see what you do with it.

[sox83cubs84]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

While I hate to give the impression of "piling on", I looked at the eBay losting on this jersey and I, too, have concerns. I agree with the previous poster who opined that the boxed year tag was too large. Also, the embroidery (not the font, but the actual aqua thread) seems a bit off to me, as well.

I'm not going to slap any hands nor kick any rear ends here, but, if presented to me for a LOO, I would designate this piece as Unable To Authenticate.

Dave Miedema

[notslip0602286]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

This is, no one knew for sure before, now, people have STRONG opinions about it....which to me is just odd. I understand people's concern, and that is fine. If someone wants to bid in the ebay auction, and they get it and find it it is not real, then fine they get their money back as stated in the auction, I just don't have the time to send it to mears and get it authenticated and all that, like I originally thought I did, which is why I am at this time seeing the response I get on ebay, seeing how much interest there is and what not, I really do not expect to sell it at this point, so we'll see.

[trsent]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

This is, no one knew for sure before, now, people have STRONG opinions about it....which to me is just odd. I understand people's concern, and that is fine. If someone wants to bid in the ebay auction, and they get it and find it it is not real, then fine they get their money back as stated in the auction, I just don't have the time to send it to mears and get it authenticated and all that, like I originally thought I did, which is why I am at this time seeing the response I get on ebay, seeing how much interest there is and what not, I really do not expect to sell it at this point, so we'll see.

I am confused. You have been clearly told the jersey has issues, but you are still willing to sell it to someone who may not know about these issues? That is how I read your email above.

You have been told by myself and now Dave Miedema the jersey is not right, but you still want to try to find a sucker to buy it?

[notslip0602286]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

I believe I just stated my main reasons for posting it on ebay....so if you didn't understand I'll try and re word it a little better for you to comprehend...My main goal for posting the jersey on ebay was to see the response it got, at the same time, if someone buys it, I will offer 100% money back guarentee if they find it to not be authentic. That right there states that IF someone buys it, which for that price and lack of providence I doubt they would, I will still offer money back if they are willing to do the research.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

this entire thing makes no sense. how much time does it take to mail it to the authenticator? one would think less than it takes to set up the auction. you paid what 1800 for it so its not like you have a fortune tied up in it. forget mears you could submit it to grey flannel they have an ongoing auction and could probably still include it in their late additions. first they would authenticate it and they do make errors but are very knowledgeable. what worries me is your offer of a money back guarentee. first what is sufficient proof to you to prove item is not authentic?

[trsent]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

I believe I just stated my main reasons for posting it on ebay....so if you didn't understand I'll try and re word it a little better for you to comprehend...My main goal for posting the jersey on ebay was to see the response it got, at the same time, if someone buys it, I will offer 100% money back guarentee if they find it to not be authentic. That right there states that IF someone buys it, which for that price and lack of providence I doubt they would, I will still offer money back if they are willing to do the research.

Ok, but you have been told clearly - The jersey is questionable!

So now you say you'll sell it as game used and you'll let an unsuspecting customer decide? Sorry, that is 100% wrong. Please understand, you have been told by two industry experts the jersey isn't good but you would like to gamble and sell it to an honest person to let them determine if two industry experts are wrong?

Don't waste your time sending this jersey to Grey Flannel or MEARS - They will give you the same answer you have already heard - The jersey is not authentic.

If appears to me you are hoping for a miracle. It also appears to me now that you have new information about the jersey, you are condoning fraud.

[ivo610]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

If I sold someone a jersey and then when they failed to sell it for 3x as much, so they tried to return it, I would have a serious issue with that. I hope Ebay would as well.

[nickacs]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

If appears to me you are hoping for a miracle. It also appears to me now that you have new information about the jersey, you are condoning fraud.

Bingo...Just like I mentioned too.. I could get a blank Cards jersey, add 'PUJOLS' to the back and sell it for $6k on Ebay and "offer" my money back guarantee and hope some poor sucker doesn't try to authenticate it and "trust me". Here I just spent $100 on a blank jersey with modifications with a nice $5900 profit. Screw the buyer, let him figure it out.
MONEY BACK GUARANTEE OR NOT, your committing fraud my friend.

This is exactly where I was about 15 or so years ago when I "trusted" Ebay/auction houses and their stupid little letters. Ohhh, a LOA.. It MUST be good... LOL what a joke I've learned.. And yes, the hard way too.
No offense to Dave, MEARS, Meigray and PSA/JSA, as those places I do respect their opinion/letters. But Ebay stores and auction house ones, forget it!

Your clearly not understanding what your doing and for that, I'm done with your thread. Have fun with your $6k "game worn" Marino and make a nice $4200 profit on it laughing all the way to the bank while leaving someone with their hard earned money pissing it out the window.

YOU are what this hobby doesn't need. Another crook out to scam the good guys.

[legaleagle92481]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

ryans point is what i was getting at without saying it earlier. read his description in the auction and how he describes jersey. he is going to have trouble getting his money back if he gives up what hes doing now, which i think we all hope he will. without an opinion on paper from a recognized authenticator saying that items fake i think his conduct will make him hard pressed to get a refund.

[notslip0602286]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

well no matter what i say here you guys are now accusing me of fraud, lol. its up to you not to believe me, i don't care, and im not loosing sleep over it, you honestly seem more upset about this than I am. I told you my motivation, take it or leave it.

[trsent]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

well no matter what i say here you guys are now accusing me of fraud, lol. its up to you not to believe me, i don't care, and im not loosing sleep over it, you honestly seem more upset about this than I am. I told you my motivation, take it or leave it.

You came on this forum asking if we can help you determine if a jersey is genuine or not. You got your answer, and you now you are attempting to resell it to another customer (I don't care the price) and basically claiming that you don't care the jersey has been determined unable to authenticate.

We have done nothing but answer your questions and you have insulted the integrity of the industry by still trying to sell it instead of returning it to where you originally bought it and getting away from it.

[notslip0602286]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

no one here determined anything on its authenticity until consequently it was already on ebay, then all of the sudden by your standards and from your source its a definite fake, but before, you hadn't heard a single thing, you just had an opinion....

[notslip0602286]

Re: Dan Marino Gu Jersry On Ebay! Real?

and again, you say i'm attempting to resell it, when i told you 3 times now, my main goal was to see the response it got on ebay....call it what you want, i don't really care. I'm sure you care more than I do, I know my intentions, for some reason you keep telling me basically that I am lieing about it. If you refuse to believe me, which it seems you are doing, then we should probably just agree to disagree, it isn't worth arguing about to me.