1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

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  • sox83cubs84
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    • Apr 2009
    • 8902

    #46
    Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

    Looks like you found a positive-leaning photo. Good work.

    Dave Miedema

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    • R. C. Walker
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 565

      #47
      Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

      Sure did get quiet . . .
      R. C. Walker
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      treborreklaw@hotmail.com

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      • solarlottry
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 802

        #48
        Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

        Rather than just saying what Baseball83 initially stated (he inspected the shirt, it is good, impeccable source etc) why not just go ahead and post the image immediately? It would have avoided much of this back and forth conjecture.

        I think that with these items it goes both ways-if someone wants to say something is bad go ahead but back it up. Additionally if someone wants to give reassurance and say an item is good-go ahead and state why. Saying you have inspected the shirt, seen it or whatever is still not a good reason to state that it is good or bad. An image like the one posted by Baseball83 is just what this thread needed to put the spacing issue to rest and that seemed to be the biggest concern.

        I think if everyone works together on these items then almost every item can be thoroughly evaluated and a general consensus can be obtained. It seems weird though that this forum has to do this. Isnt it GF's responsibility to evaluate and only auction off items that are authentic. If GF had posted the card with the similar spacing i have a feeling that this thread may have been much shorter!

        Always buying 49ers shirts and paying a finders fee!
        Paul
        garciajones@yahoo.com

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        • Baseball83
          Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 43

          #49
          Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

          Why would you assume that I had this in my possession prior to the post?

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          • djnos7
            Banned
            • Dec 2010
            • 175

            #50
            Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

            I tip my hat to you bb83, and it was a nice find! As i originally stated that the piping wasnt my biggest concern, but rather that he signed most if not all of his jersey's in between the 24 in that time period, and it is an oddity that one or two seem to find there way back up for auction. But like i said, anything is possible. Ive spoke to Millcreek and others that were close to these shirts in that time period, and they also agree that its out of the norm for him to have not signed it!

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            • solarlottry
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2009
              • 802

              #51
              Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

              Originally posted by Baseball83
              Why would you assume that I had this in my possession prior to the post?
              if you didnt have it in your possession then i am wondering what basis you used to call the shirt good? Are you a Mariners jersey expert and have a large collection etc? Without images, style and photo-matches, or extensive knowledge of a teams jerseys or LOAs, saying a shirt is good or bad can be tough. The bottom line is that if someone wants to say something is good or bad please say why!

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              • MarinersFan34
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2009
                • 239

                #52
                Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

                First off, I will admit I made a mistake in my previous post and was looking at the image of the jersey from the earlier auction and not the current one in GF. Someone had posted an image and I assumed it was the same one. However, this still does not change my view on the spacing of the jersey.

                We'll have to agree to disagree on this one, unfortunately that card does not scan well nor does it contain the exact amount of detail we need to settle this. Looking at the card in hand I feel that the nameplate is actually larger than normal on top but is still closer to the silver piping than the jersey at auction. My point being that while they both appear to be spaced similar, the nameplate of the card photo is close to touching while the Gf one is not even close since it is on the smaller nameplate.

                In the end I still wouldn't bid on it and that's my opinion and I don’t feel the need to keep defending my opinion if he can simply say, “I say it’s legit, prove it’s bad” if he doesn’t have to prove it’s good. Where are the other jerseys with this same spacing? The small nameplate spaced well below the piping? Who is this impeccable source? Actually.. who cares? If the potential buyer isn't smart enough to read the thread, do any reasearch of their own and make their own informed decision, that's not my problem.

                Interesting that MY exact scan was overlooked until it was reposted by Baseball83 and now he's getting credit for magically making the jersey legit by posting this "new" info

                Just taking someones word a shirt is good is not enough for me anymore. Especially when it doesn't fit the standard for the rest of the teams jerseys.

                In parting, nothing rings more true than the age old saying from Milt B. “Do your homework”.
                Always looking for Seattle Mariners & anything of Felix Hernandez, Jay Buhner, Richie Sexson and Arthur Rhodes.

                -Jeremy Morgan

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                • justinwc80
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 492

                  #53
                  Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

                  Went for over 2,000 so someone seemed to like it. Makes me feel good abou the value of my jersey with his signed COA. Hope the jersey turns out good for the buyer.

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                  • bogey
                    Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 44

                    #54
                    Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

                    Do you guys consider a Griffey LOA as good as gold in determining their authenticity?

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                    • MarinersFan34
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 239

                      #55
                      Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

                      Originally posted by justinwc80
                      Went for over 2,000 so someone seemed to like it. Makes me feel good abou the value of my jersey with his signed COA. Hope the jersey turns out good for the buyer.
                      Agreed, perhaps I was the only paranoid one about the jersey and who knows maybe all these photos helped in the decision to bid, maybe not. Kinda interesteing though how it went from.. opinions anyone?, to a bump to a couple pages thread.

                      Regardless of the opinions or outcome, this kinda stuff is good for the hobby, get things exposed such as pictures, style matches and knowledge about the jerseys is spread.
                      Always looking for Seattle Mariners & anything of Felix Hernandez, Jay Buhner, Richie Sexson and Arthur Rhodes.

                      -Jeremy Morgan

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                      • djnos7
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2010
                        • 175

                        #56
                        Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

                        They also have an odd looking one on ebay for buy it now 2,250. Seems odd that it was bid up so early in the game, and know one waited towards the end. I just think its strange how there's no movement, and maybe there was a hidden reserve, and didn't want to take the chance of losing it for less than what was expected 2,250,curt schilling?

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                        • djnos7
                          Banned
                          • Dec 2010
                          • 175

                          #57
                          Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

                          I think the owner of the jersey didn't want to lose it, and end up giving it away, after all the questions and negative comments surrounding the jersey! I can't say i blame them, i mean if it was mine, and i was selling it, i sure as heck wouldnt want all that negativity impacting the results of the auction in a negative way, just like BB83 stated in the beginning! That jersey sold for just under 1200 in a Leland auction back in 06', i think the jersey realistically in this market was deserving of 15-1700 out the door! 20% buyers premium doesn't help the matter...

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                          • djnos7
                            Banned
                            • Dec 2010
                            • 175

                            #58
                            Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

                            And when i say that jersey sold, i mean one that looks exactly like it with the high piping and all...

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                            • justinwc80
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 492

                              #59
                              Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction

                              Originally posted by bogey
                              Do you guys consider a Griffey LOA as good as gold in determining their authenticity?
                              Since there is a documented history of Griffey selling items with these COAs they provide the best authenticity you'll find on his items other than an MLB hologram which will only exist on his last couple years and some of those only come with team letters. I think most Griffey collectors would agree with this.

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                              • Phil316
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2013
                                • 1878

                                #60
                                Re: 1999 Griffey Alternate Jersey in Grey Flannel Auction



                                Thoughts on this Griffey ?

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