Why Did this Schmidt jersey go so cheap

[trsent]

Re: Why Did this Schmidt jersey go so cheap

Sure, tease me why don't ya!

They now admit in an email that the jersey is store bought! Why didn't they state that in the item description?! Yet they still maintain that the item description is accurate and want to know why I feel it was misleading.

I just do not understand why they would say, "This jersey was bought in a store" in their description. I understand their description may have been misleading, but who ever lists items as "I bought this in the store" or 'I stole this from the commissary"?

[otismalibu]

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I just do not understand why they would say, "This jersey was bought in a store" in their description.

The following is from the auction description.

The jersey has a full front metal zipper, a strip tag reading "77 2" on the tail, and "Schmidt" chain stitched on a strip tag in the collar.

Is the strip tag and chain stitched name, standard on any retail jerseys?

[trsent]

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The following is from the auction description.

The jersey has a full front metal zipper, a strip tag reading "77 2" on the tail, and "Schmidt" chain stitched on a strip tag in the collar.

Is the strip tag and chain stitched name, standard on any retail jerseys?

Ok, I see how their description is vague, but questions should be asked before placing a bid, right? The seller did nothing wrong, they described their item. Did they lie or mislead in any way?

I just think when the seller writes a description for an item, they have a right as long as they do not lie to list it as they wish. The bidder has a responsibility to ask questions. If I thought this was a game used jersey I would have asked why a MEARS letter didn't accompany the lot.

Mark, if you wish to reply to my posts, please include highlighting of the entire previous entry I made so that you are not picking on single sentences that could be then taken out of context. I appreciate it.

[trsent]

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Oops, I meant Greg in the last sentance of my reply above, not Mark!

[stkmtimo]

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Joel,
They didn't have to say "This was bought in a store." They could have said "This store bought jersey...blah blah" and then go into the specifics rather than listing it at $300 with a very misleading description. Just my view.

Tim

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Joel,
They didn't have to say "This was bought in a store." They could have said "This store bought jersey...blah blah" and then go into the specifics rather than listing it at $300 with a very misleading description. Just my view.

Tim

Again, it is their auction. They list an item to realize the highest price and they didn't feel like using a term that we use here on GUU forum but many people and dealers are not familiar with that expression.

I admit, the description was vague, but would anyone have bought this thinking it was game used or issued without a MEARS LOO? At the same time, why wouldn't questions have been asked before placing a bid since the description was vague.

If a customer is not satisfied, I'd ask to be released from the bid. A professional auction house would do this no problem for a small dollar item such as this and they know the description was vague.

[otismalibu]

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Ask them if they added the year tag and the chain stitching.

[sportscentury]

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Louis,

I would suggest that you call Geppi's, explain the situation (your confusion and frustration, what you've learned since winning the item, etc.), and see if they will work with you on it (i.e., drop the whole thing). It may not be that big a deal, especially since it is a low-dollar item.

I had bid on several items in Geppi's (won nothing, as usual), but there was one item that I had bid on that I learned more about after I placed my bid. I simply emailed them and explained the situation and they sent me an email back the next day saying that they retracted my bid for me. I thought that was AOK of them. I realize that your situation is different, but you may find that they handle this quite reasonably.

Best of luck either way,
Reid

P.S. Also, someone asked if this is a retail shirt. Because this jersey was constructed, it is hard to say exactly what it was originally. Retail shirts such as this one were never sold (I'd be amazed if I am wrong about this), at least not to the best of my knowledge. Even Geppi's response that the shirt was "store-bought" does not explain the shirt as I am sure that it was not "store-bought" in the condition in which it was auctioned off in this auction. An early version of it (prior to it being altered in several ways) may have been a store-bought shirt.

[LHG39]

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I appreciate everyone's input. After several back and forth emails they have agreed to cancel my bid.

The reason I did not call for more info is simple. My decision to bid was a last minute decision and I naively thought that items in an auction of this caliber with all of the Rizzuto and Staub game worn items would be appropriately represented. My thinking was that if they are listing this jersey, describing the tagging and stating James Spence Authentication then at the very least it was a team issued jersey. I know it had a relatively low estimate, but a lot of items had ridiculously low estimates. When I bid and then I saw I won for $300 I immediately thought, woow, something must be wrong here. Where does it say that James Spence is only authenticating the autograph???

While yes, everything they said was ture, it is very hard to argue that it was not misleading. Perhaps they did not have to say "store-bought", but they should have said not game worn or team issued. Everyone knows what year/set tagging implies, and they clearly were happy to imply without stating anything that was an out and out lie.

As it appears that everything will work out, I am happy for myself, but still a bit chagrined at the process. Everyone knows that eBay is caveat emptor, and I have been emptored my fair share, but If one cannot trust major auction houses, what does that say?

[trsent]

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I appreciate everyone's input. After several back and forth emails they have agreed to cancel my bid.

The reason I did not call for more info is simple. My decision to bid was a last minute decision and I naively thought that items in an auction of this caliber with all of the Rizzuto and Staub game worn items would be appropriately represented. My thinking was that if they are listing this jersey, describing the tagging and stating James Spence Authentication then at the very least it was a team issued jersey. I know it had a relatively low estimate, but a lot of items had ridiculously low estimates. When I bid and then I saw I won for $300 I immediately thought, woow, something must be wrong here. Where does it say that James Spence is only authenticating the autograph???

While yes, everything they said was ture, it is very hard to argue that it was not misleading. Perhaps they did not have to say "store-bought", but they should have said not game worn or team issued. Everyone knows what year/set tagging implies, and they clearly were happy to imply without stating anything that was an out and out lie.

As it appears that everything will work out, I am happy for myself, but still a bit chagrined at the process. Everyone knows that eBay is caveat emptor, and I have been emptored my fair share, but If one cannot trust major auction houses, what does that say?

We complain all the time about basic eBay auctions that do not go into enough detail and similar issues arise. This was an unfortunate situation that was professionally resolved by the auction house.

[kingjammy24]

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"If one cannot trust major auction houses, what does that say?"

it says you can't trust auction houses. if you can't trust them, then who can you trust? yourself.

don't rely on auction houses, dealers, or authenticators to look out for your best interests.

rudy.

[sammy]

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Geppi's is shopping the shirt around if anyone is interested.

Just give them a call and make an offer.