Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

[joelsabi]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

BTW, I believe the MLB hologram is only authenticating the signature.

Just some observations.

• FJ 275557 – FJ 275619 63 Hamilton items signed during a signing session for MLB ALUMNI MARKETING SIGNING
• MLB ALUMNI MARKETING SIGNING is known primarily for getting autographs of players according to their website.
• Some titles of auction items for Hamilton mention "game used" but all Hamilton items neglect to mention "game use" in the description of the auction item.
• Anyone can order a fielding glove (FJ275563 Fielding Glove) with an embroidered nickname as opposed to a glove with a player's name.

If anyone is thinking seriously of bidding, to play on the safe side I would email Matt Hazzard at matt@mlbpaa.com for clarification of provenance and game usage.

[slam]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

BTW, I believe the MLB hologram is only authenticating the signature.

[frikativ54]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

The blue hat does look like a match though. I can't find pics of Josh wearing a red hat in the 2010 WS.

[OaklandAsFan]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

I was tempted but it has jumped way out of my comfort zone, especially when there is a question of use. I thought it looked pretty unused when I was looking at it. At least you have a legit out if you buy it, the auction title does say game used.

[Fnazxc0114]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

a quick look through gettys looks like hamilton doesnt use that style of glove in games. The photos on getty show different pocket webbing?

[slam]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

Is it me or does that glove look pretty unused?

[frikativ54]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

Wow, that glove just jumped from about $1,660 to $2,805. Can't believe it. I was afraid that it wouldn't fetch that much money, its being on a two-day auction and all.

[Fnazxc0114]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

Also, newyorknewyork beat me out for the hamilton batting helmet that was recently auctioned off.

[Fnazxc0114]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

I think AM makes a good point. It seems like the trend in g/u stuff is for stars who are playing right now. Look at a Nomar Garciaparra, he was realy good for a while but he will never make the hall. How collectible is his stuff? How much can a henderson, dawson, boggs bat be had for these days?

[2x_beckett_super_collector]

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Ive looked up a few of the MLB holo #'s on the auctions that say "game used/autographed" but none of them have authentication for the item being game used....only autographed. I wonder why that is?

[ncbadges]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

If I was a glove collector, I'd buy it, PERIOD. It should be noted that the MLB Authentication is for the signature though, and not the use.

ncb

[AM]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

frikativ54,

Agreed about Hamilton - a story and talent never to forget.

But if he doesn't make the HOF and eventually he's going to fade, I have to think his items will decrease in value - to what extent, I can't answer, but I brought up the Eric Davis glove just as an example. Hamilton is a better player than Davis, no question, but I recall Davis was highly touted, billed as one of the game's best all-around players, and was probably collected at some point. Is his glove worth $2500? I collect gloves and I can say based upon what I have paid and seen, for big name players too, I would never pay that much for an Eric Davis glove. I'd start at 1/3 that price, then work down.

Of course, I am not assuming a seller will get what he wants for an item, but the asking prices for some of these items leads me to believe that there is overvaluing (and past overpaying).

Perhaps I am way off base here, and maybe my opinion doesn't carry much weight with other collectors, but this is how I see it.

Good discussion nonetheless.

[frikativ54]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

Now, as far as hats... and I am a Hat Collector - is $650 to much? Maybe. But, next to gloves, one of the single MOST used pieces of equipment.

Like Gloves, many players wear the same Home and Road caps all year (except for special games - July 4th, etc) making them more scarce than Jerseys, Bats, Pants, etc.

I have a few hats that I have close to $400 into, so would I stretch that for a chance to own a Josh Hamilton VERIFIED GU WS Hat? Quite Possibly and I am now watching them both because of this thread...

Glad that the thread has piqued your interest. I don't have the money to buy a lot of the stuff, so I'm glad other forum members are interested in making a purchase or two. Good luck.

[frikativ54]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

Hamilton is a terrific player, don't get me wrong. However, what happens is then people pay these prices now and then later when they're selling them, assuming Hamilton's value as a player hasn't changed, or potentially goes down, they try to recoup their investment and they can't because it's "Hamilton who?" and they get offers for less than half of what they paid. Why does an Eric Davis glove currently on eBay have a $2500 asking price?

I really don't think it's ever going to be "Hamilton who?" Most people who follow the game of baseball know of Josh's incredible story of recovery from drug addiction and his perseverance through problems that many of us face. I also don't think fans will forget about Hamilton's performance in the Home Run Derby in New York. I doubt the value of his items is going down any time soon.

[xpress34]

Re: Josh Hamilton Holy Grail

Addendum -

For those who don't know, I did use to work for Rawlings and the Player Sales Rep for the Rockies brought by the PRO PLAYER PREFERRED Catalog one day for us to look at (not a catalog for the 'General Public'), and I remember almost spitting up my drink when I saw those prices in the catalog - YES, $1,500, $2,000, $3,500 and up to just shy of the $5,000 mark.

The better the leather, the better the lining, the better the quality, the higher the price...

- Smitty