Robert Edwards Auction Shock

[nickacs]

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Sorry too legal

Funny, someone mentioned maybe it's because it's not football season, and they might be right. I had a 2009 WS Phil Hughes jersey that I got from Steiner right after NY won just because I never had any WS jersey. I just got into the "hype" and WS timeframe. Afterwards I was sorry I even bought it as he's no star player and thought I'll never make my money back. Then I consigned it a year later in the fall 2010 GFC auction right around WS time and it actually went for a lot more than I bought it for!
I know for NBA items, you definitely want to consign to GFC's annual BHOF auction every August. I couldn't believe the prices in the last 2 year's of their auctions! Everyone comes out of the woodwork for that auction for NBA stuff.

Possibly another reason might be due to the auction house itself. REA is a great auction house, don't get me wrong, but I personally don't feel they are very "main stream" like GFC, Lelands, Heritage and even AMI (although don't care for them personally!). Possibly, but who knows....

I consigned in the last 2 yrs to GFC and Lelands and both were great for me in terms of my auction piece pricing and payment.

Best of luck in your future consigning!

[gingi79]

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Had the seller been the buyer and posted they won this jersey for that price, I'm betting a large majority of people would have this first throught:

"Yeah, that's fake..."

[BostonSportsFan]

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[quote=nickacs;292731]Sorry too legal

Funny, someone mentioned maybe it's because it's not football season, and they might be right. I had a 2009 WS Phil Hughes jersey that I got from Steiner right after NY won just because I never had any WS jersey. I just got into the "hype" and WS timeframe. Afterwards I was sorry I even bought it as he's no star player and thought I'll never make my money back. Then I consigned it a year later in the fall 2010 GFC auction right around WS time and it actually went for a lot more than I bought it for!
I know for NBA items, you definitely want to consign to GFC's annual BHOF auction every August. I couldn't believe the prices in the last 2 year's of their auctions! Everyone comes out of the woodwork for that auction for NBA stuff.

Possibly another reason might be due to the auction house itself. REA is a great auction house, don't get me wrong, but I personally don't feel they are very "main stream" like GFC, Lelands, Heritage and even AMI (although don't care for them personally!). Possibly, but who knows....

I consigned in the last 2 yrs to GFC and Lelands and both were great for me in terms of my auction piece pricing and payment.

Best of luck in your future consigning![/quote


I think another poster mentioned this but in terms of mainstream I could not disagree more. REA is up there as one of the top three houses in the buisness bar none. Rob's reputation is of the highest calibre however with that being said, the other poster mentioned that they are the kings of the vintage stuff, baseball cards, old vintage misc. items they are as good as it gets and as mentioned those niche collectors come out in droves for this once per year auction.

I too have had several experiences where some game used items of more recent time periods have done worse than I expected. However vintage pieces I have in the past consigned with Rob that were more one of a kind items have done phenomenal.

Perhaps it really is that niche market just not sure.

Joe

[tom1315]

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Legaleagle, I 'feel your pain'...I am a helmet guy primarily and purchase GU bats from time to time...I was looking at several bats until they passed my comfort zone...saw your jersey and it had no bids for so long and I began think something must be wrong with it...I truly hate it for you...hang in there!

Tom

Go Pack! 1981 NC State graduate

[schubert1970]

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My first experience consigning to a major auction resulted in a nightmare. My Brian Uralcher jersey sold for only $1,300 in the REA Auction. Everyone always says how REA brings in the best prices but I guess it goes to show that such isn't always true. I am hoping that the Nicks playoff jersey and Von Miller 1st jersey i consigned to Grey Flannel do better or i will have lost my faith in auction houses. I traded a jersey I paid 4 grand for straight up for the Uralcher. the last time REA had one it went for over 3k and it was a beauty someone got a great deal. I would have gotten more on Ebay.

Your item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Maybe you can't face the fact you over paid for piece of garbage. Maybe you paid too much to begin with. Who cares about Urlacker???

I'm surprised REA would even handle an item that is so common. Maybe a Lou Lampson letter would have help.

Stop the crying already
Bill

[trsent]

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Looking at REA history, you just got unlucky it looks like to me.

See previous Urlacher jerseys they sold:

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2007/1377.html

http://www.robertedwardauctions.com/auction/2008/1527.html

While your auction was for a road white jersey, it still went for a bargain:

http://bid.robertedwardauctions.com/bidplace.aspx?itemid=22959

Funny thing is the first two jerseys, from a few years back, were autographed by Brian with great inscriptions, which I'm sure hurt the price of the jersey just sold. NFL Auctions jerseys are great, but for Brian Urlacher I'd rather have a jersey that originated right from him that comes hammered with use. The white jersey that recently sold doesn't show much use in the images with the listing and maybe people found it hard to believe the jersey was worn and could be issued for that game?

The Giants did switch to turf in 2003 so there would be no grass stains, but there are so much nicer game used Urlacher jerseys out there with tons of use and Brian's signature authenticating them that reasonably bidders may have been turned away even at such a low price.

[otismalibu]

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Two things...

1) Often, photos don't do justice to white jerseys. Some closeups of the use/wear would have been nice. On more than once occasion, I've asked eBay sellers for a photo of the item in natural light/no flash just to get an idea what it really looks like.

2) Didn't the Bears thread recently feature 3 posters that were leaving the hobby and would be selling off most or much of their collection? Did they move any Urlacher jerseys? Maybe just bad timing.

[legaleagle92481]

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Your item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Maybe you can't face the fact you over paid for piece of garbage. Maybe you paid too much to begin with. Who cares about Urlacker???

I'm surprised REA would even handle an item that is so common. Maybe a Lou Lampson letter would have help.

Stop the crying already
Bill

Lol. I posted this thread not to cry but to help educate other collectors. People post threads about wanting to know which auction house to consign to all the time. If I were looking to consign stuff this is information I would want to know.

[nickacs]

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I think another poster mentioned this but in terms of mainstream I could not disagree more. REA is up there as one of the top three houses in the buisness bar none. Rob's reputation is of the highest calibre however with that being said, the other poster mentioned that they are the kings of the vintage stuff, baseball cards, old vintage misc. items they are as good as it gets and as mentioned those niche collectors come out in droves for this once per year auction.

I too have had several experiences where some game used items of more recent time periods have done worse than I expected. However vintage pieces I have in the past consigned with Rob that were more one of a kind items have done phenomenal.

Perhaps it really is that niche market just not sure.

Joe

I guess we'll just agree to disagree then I never said there's anything wrong with REA/Rob, but I don't think when it comes to the "average Joe" out there that REA pops into their minds when thinking game used auction house. Heck, I've been collecting game worn jerseys since the early 90's and never heard of REA until I join this board 5 years ago! But I knew GFC and Heritage already just because of much more publicity over the years/etc.

I do think REA is a great auction house and would recommend consigning to them, but as you stated, vintage is more their thing than game worn stuff for the most part. Personally, for game worn jerseys, I would look at the others first to consign with.

[legaleagle92481]

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I guess we'll just agree to disagree then I never said there's anything wrong with REA/Rob, but I don't think when it comes to the "average Joe" out there that REA pops into their minds when thinking game used auction house. Heck, I've been collecting game worn jerseys since the early 90's and never heard of REA until I join this board 5 years ago! But I knew GFC and Heritage already just because of much more publicity over the years/etc.

I do think REA is a great auction house and would recommend consigning to them, but as you stated, vintage is more their thing than game worn stuff for the most part. Personally, for game worn jerseys, I would look at the others first to consign with.

I agree. I searched the entire auction they had three non-baseball game used items including the Uralcher. Yes, they have a huge collector database but if they are looking for baseball cards and autographs such people are more likely to look right past other stuff.

[Mulligans]

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I would have expected a higher price although it never helps when the buyer ends up paying 25-30 points to the Auction house in the form of Fees and/or State taxes. That shouldn't effect your value, but it certainly does.

Its too bad that you had to take a loss, although any glimmer of FOOTBALL Talk on this Forum is good for me!!! Football conversation on here has taken a sad downturn in the last few years??

[schubert1970]

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Lol. I posted this thread not to cry but to help educate other collectors. People post threads about wanting to know which auction house to consign to all the time. If I were looking to consign stuff this is information I would want to know.

Educate...LMAO. So you educated us that when you consign crap with a top notch auciton house, you received crap in return. Nice education, or using your common sense would have been a lot cheaper.

[jhunt28]

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Your item is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it. Maybe you can't face the fact you over paid for piece of garbage. Maybe you paid too much to begin with. Who cares about Urlacker???

I'm surprised REA would even handle an item that is so common. Maybe a Lou Lampson letter would have help.

Stop the crying already
Bill

is there some sort of history between you two?? jeezus man...take it easy on the guy. as far as "who cares about urlacher", im sure most would say the same about something that you value...

[legaleagle92481]

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is there some sort of history between you two?? jeezus man...take it easy on the guy. as far as "who cares about urlacher", im sure most would say the same about something that you value...

ive never dealt with him before or even talked to him. i guess he is one of those guys on here who just likes to pick fights.

[commando]

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ive never dealt with him before or even talked to him. i guess he is one of those guys on here who just likes to pick fights.

Yes, apparently schubert1970 believes his long-winded explanation about how he acquired a Josh Hamilton home run baseball is more important than your Urlacher thread. But I guess we have to understand that Hamilton is now part of an elite group of players that includes Mark Whiten, Mike Cameron, Carlos Delgado and Bob Horner.