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  • jwal23
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 237

    Verlander jersey questions

    Never bought or even seen any Tigers GU jerseys in person or know a lot about their characteristics...was wondering everyone's thoughts on these 2 Justin Verlander jerseys that appeared on Ebay...



    Always on the lookout for Evan Longoria GU items
    txacerj23@aol.com
  • roar84
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 27

    #2
    Re: Verlander jersey questions

    Originally posted by jwal23
    Never bought or even seen any Tigers GU jerseys in person or know a lot about their characteristics...was wondering everyone's thoughts on these 2 Justin Verlander jerseys that appeared on Ebay...



    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Justin-Verla...item460d009ec3

    They both look legit to me. They both have proper tagging and Jim Schmakel's initials. Obviously, the home jersey has been washed but you can still see the initials. The gray jersey is from 2011 and the home jersey is from 2008 based upon the team tag.

    I hope the information helps and good luck bidding.

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    • sox83cubs84
      Banned
      • Apr 2009
      • 8902

      #3
      Re: Verlander jersey questions

      Originally posted by roar84
      They both look legit to me. They both have proper tagging and Jim Schmakel's initials. Obviously, the home jersey has been washed but you can still see the initials. The gray jersey is from 2011 and the home jersey is from 2008 based upon the team tag.

      I hope the information helps and good luck bidding.
      Agreed. Both great Verlander jerseys, evidencing good wear in the photos.

      Dave Miedema

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      • jwal23
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2011
        • 237

        #4
        Re: Verlander jersey questions

        thanks guys...they looked legit to me but nowadays you can never be to careful...especially on items like this
        Always on the lookout for Evan Longoria GU items
        txacerj23@aol.com

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        • csu398
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 194

          #5
          Re: Verlander jersey questions

          Not sure about 2008, but I find it hard to believe that a Verlander MVP/CY year jersey would be released without any kind of documentation, especially when Tigers do a very good job on making their GU items available to collectors.

          Of course, it's not impossible that the jersey just leaked out through other routes...but I'd be very careful about them...

          See if you can try photomatching these jerseys. It may not be easy to find an exact match; but when the jerseys don't match, the difference can be identified easily.

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          • sox83cubs84
            Banned
            • Apr 2009
            • 8902

            #6
            Re: Verlander jersey questions

            Originally posted by csu398
            Not sure about 2008, but I find it hard to believe that a Verlander MVP/CY year jersey would be released without any kind of documentation, especially when Tigers do a very good job on making their GU items available to collectors.
            Au contraire, the JS and G inscriptions, in that handwriting style, are as good as any LOA. The JS is Jim Schmakel, the Tigers' longtime equipment manager. The G is for Gamer. Although it's not the case now, there was a time when the Tigers were far less friendly to game-used jersey collectors. The JS initials were added to show that the jersey left the team's auspices legitimately. The Tigers would sometimes send team employees to Detroit area shows to check for items that weren't authorized for release. If a game-used/team-issued jersey was found in the possession of a dealer without the JS notation on the manufacturers' tag, the item was declared as stolen property and confiscation was attempted.

            Dave Miedema

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            • onlyalbert
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 918

              #7
              Re: Verlander jersey questions

              Originally posted by sox83cubs84
              Au contraire, the JS and G inscriptions, in that handwriting style, are as good as any LOA. The JS is Jim Schmakel, the Tigers' longtime equipment manager. The G is for Gamer. Although it's not the case now, there was a time when the Tigers were far less friendly to game-used jersey collectors. The JS initials were added to show that the jersey left the team's auspices legitimately. The Tigers would sometimes send team employees to Detroit area shows to check for items that weren't authorized for release. If a game-used/team-issued jersey was found in the possession of a dealer without the JS notation on the manufacturers' tag, the item was declared as stolen property and confiscation was attempted.

              Dave Miedema
              Dave, I know the other numbers on the tag, but what is the 072? Is this the set number? Most I see today have a specific tag with "set #"

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              • sox83cubs84
                Banned
                • Apr 2009
                • 8902

                #8
                Re: Verlander jersey questions

                Originally posted by onlyalbert
                Dave, I know the other numbers on the tag, but what is the 072? Is this the set number? Most I see today have a specific tag with "set #"
                The 072 is an inventory number tag, a feature that the Tigers have included in most tagging since 1980 or thereabouts.

                Dave M.

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                • TwinLakesPark
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 327

                  #9
                  Re: Verlander jersey questions

                  Any thoughts on the home white jersey that was washed after it was initialed? I have only seen a few dozen JS initialed tigers jerseys, but I do not recall ever seeing any that were washed after they were marked.

                  Wes

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                  • sox83cubs84
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2009
                    • 8902

                    #10
                    Re: Verlander jersey questions

                    Originally posted by TwinLakesPark
                    Any thoughts on the home white jersey that was washed after it was initialed? I have only seen a few dozen JS initialed tigers jerseys, but I do not recall ever seeing any that were washed after they were marked.

                    Wes
                    I can't say for sure, but (GASP!!) COULD IT HAVE BEEN WORN AND WASHED (OMG!!) BY A SUBSEQUENT OWNER/FAN/COLLECTOR?

                    Looks like a job for the game-used police

                    Dave Miedema

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                    • AstrosGU
                      Banned
                      • May 2011
                      • 132

                      #11
                      Re: Verlander jersey questions

                      Did anyone here win either jersey? Bidding got too high for me, but both jerseys were pounded and I was able to photomatch both jerseys.

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                      • dougiedshow
                        Super Moderator
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 505

                        #12
                        Re: Verlander jersey questions

                        I was having issues with my phone in the closing seconds... sucks. I should have just placed my max and let it ride. So much for trying to snipe. hearing about a photo match only makes it sting more.

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                        • TwinLakesPark
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 327

                          #13
                          Re: Verlander jersey questions

                          Originally posted by sox83cubs84
                          I can't say for sure, but (GASP!!) COULD IT HAVE BEEN WORN AND WASHED (OMG!!) BY A SUBSEQUENT OWNER/FAN/COLLECTOR?

                          Looks like a job for the game-used police

                          Dave Miedema
                          Believe me, I am not nearly as bothered by the washing of game used jerseys as evidenced in some of the other recent threads. However I have been writing some large checks for Tigers game worn jerseys and I am just trying to understand how they come out of the clubhouse.

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                          • yanks12025
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2006
                            • 3118

                            #14
                            Re: Verlander jersey questions

                            Originally posted by AstrosGU
                            Did anyone here win either jersey? Bidding got too high for me, but both jerseys were pounded and I was able to photomatch both jerseys.
                            Could you post them. I wasn't interested in the jerseys but looked quick on Getty and I didn't find anything. But I didn't try hard.

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                            • AstrosGU
                              Banned
                              • May 2011
                              • 132

                              #15
                              Re: Verlander jersey questions

                              Originally posted by yanks12025
                              Could you post them. I wasn't interested in the jerseys but looked quick on Getty and I didn't find anything. But I didn't try hard.
                              Sure thing. Give me until the weekend to get them posted, when I have a little extra free time. Thanks!

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