Joe Montana game used???

[lund6771]

Re: Joe Montana game used???

Lon...do you know if one of the jerseys with the letter from Bronco is available anywhere for sale?

Thanks

[lon lewis]

Re: Joe Montana game used???

razor1 I decided to revisit the two montana's up for auction after reviewing the 1990 season video tapes. I found that for the home wilson jerseys there was a RED "w" located on the left sleeve on the center white stripe On the road jerseys there was a WHITE "w" located on the center stripe. These sleeve wilson logos are not easy to detect on photo graphs since they tend to blend into the jersey due to the color.There doesn't appear to be a "w" on the grey flannel jersey, so I'd have to question that jersey. The Lelands jersey has the "w" on the left sleeve as it should be. However, the sleeve numbers appear to be smaller than the norm, so I'd question that jersey. The grey flannel jersey has the correct size sleeve #'s. Interesting contradiction.

for lund 6771 I know of no montana jerseys w/ the 49ers letter for sale at this time.

[razor1]

Re: Joe Montana game used???

Lon... thanks again for all your time and effort. I've decided to pass on both as both seem to have to many questions. I'd love to own one of his Russel jerseys and will put my time and efforts into obtaining one of those. I just want to say thanks again for all your input. Happy Holidays to you, yours and everyone on this site.

[lon lewis]

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razor1 glad to have been of assistance. it is refreshing to me to that some people still can "walk away" from questionable items rather than "hope that they're good" after spending their money. one of the most simple ways to clean up the mess that collecting has become is to do exactly what you did.

[lund6771]

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Lon...by any chance do you have a PM?...I would like to talk to you about a Montana that I am considering purchasing...I could sure apprecaite the help because it is a lot of $...thanks so much!!!

[lon lewis]

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lund6771

i can be reached at shadowsdad@worldnet.att.net

lon

[rinkrelics]

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lunds, I have a great montana with a team letter that I am considering selling. Has signed bronco letter and good wear...email me if interested frank rinkrelics@aol.com

[8049ers]

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Hello everyone,

Just a follow up on the 1990 Joe Montana jersey that we offered in our December 2006 Lelands auction - the jersey is 110% photo-matched and has been re-consigned with us for our upcoming May 2007 auction. It is one of the nicest Montana jerseys we've had the opportunity to offer to the hobby.

If you are interested in consigning with us for our May 2007 auction, the deadline is March 15th to get your items in. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Happy Collecting!

Casey Samuelson
Hockey Consultant - Lelands.com
E-mail: CaseySamuelson@lelands.com

[hblakewolf]

Re: Joe Montana game used???

Casey-
Just curious-how is a jersey "110%" photomatched? Is this in some way superior to a jersey that is 100% photomatched?

Thanks.
Howard Wolf
hblakewolf@patmedia.net

[otismalibu]

Re: Joe Montana game used???

Just curious-how is a jersey "110%" photomatched? Is this in some way superior to a jersey that is 100% photomatched?

Howard,

It's an auction house. There's always going to be an extra percentage on top of the 100%.

[8049ers]

Re: Joe Montana game used???

I guess it's better than a 90% probability rating with 10% leaving it to be photo-matched as I've seen on another LOA in the hockey hobby.

110% = no room for interpretation. It's a great photo and a great jersey.

Happy Collecting!

Casey Samuelson
Hockey Consultant - Lelands.com
E-mail: CaseySamuelson@lelands.com

[niners]

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I purchased a game used Montana jersy used in the home Atlanta Falcon game in 1990. I purchased it directly from Bronco Hinek. It was a size 46. I no longer own the jersey....sold it years back.

[CollectGU]

Re: Joe Montana game used???

I purchased a game used Montana jersy used in the home Atlanta Falcon game in 1990. I purchased it directly from Bronco Hinek. It was a size 46. I no longer own the jersey....sold it years back.

In another thread on this forum Bronco Hinek told a forum member, Patrick Scoggin, that he never sold any of his items privately. Please clarify - Did you buy it directly from Mr. Hinek, or did it just have a 49er's letter signed by Mr. Hinek? Below is the post from the other thread:


Thanks,
Dave

As a follow-up to this thread, on March 27th, I received an unsolicited e-mail from the Hinek's (who happened upon this thread via a Google search). In part, the e-mail stated the following:

"I read about [the] "Hinek collection"... We have never sold any memorabilia to anyone. I would be interested in talking to you about this Elway jersey situation. Please email me your number"

In a follow-up phone conversation with the Hineks on 4/2, it was clarified that Bronco does indeed have memorabilia in his possession that was acquired during his tenure as the 49ers equipment manager (1984-'97) as well as older items that were acquired by Broncos' father, Frank, who was the Raiders' equip. mngr. (1960-'62).

It was stated that none of these personal items are available for sale and none ever have been made available for sale to the collecting public--to Bernie Gernay, Lou Lampson, or anyone else--specifically any quantity of John Elway jerseys.

It was also clarified that Broncos' name will indeed appear on any number of legitimate 49ers' LOAs, but only in his official capacity for items that originated from the team.

[lund6771]

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Dave...

in the early 90's I bought a bunch of stuff from Bronco...awesome guy!!!

all of the items that I bought were from the 49'ers and checks were made payable to them...Bronco was selling them on their behalf...I remember him telling me that he traded sometimes with other equipment managers but those itmes were for himself

That Montana worn against the Falcons sounds like an awesome jersey!!!...I also once had one worn against the Broncos...

I still have a Rice that I got from Bronco...I was in the Bay area at the time, and asked him if he had a Rice for sale...he invited me over to their practice complex and gave me a tour of the entire facility...he then pulled a Rice off the shelve that has incredible use...14 REPAIRS!!!!...when walking out the front door we ran into Montana who was carrying some trophy's to his Mercedes...I don't really get star-struck, but being in college then, my knees started shaking a little...Joe was injured at this time, from the Giants game, and was out most of that year I think...anyways we helped carry some trophys out to his car and he was his nick name...very "cool"...

over the past few years I've been trying to get another Montana that came through Bronco but haven't had that much luck...

It's very sad to see all of the fake Montana's that are being sold all of the time...it seems that every time you open up a auction catalogue, there's another 90's Wilson in there...and again, for the short time that Joe used a 90's Wilson, most were handled through Bronco, so why don't all of the one's in these auctions have his letter?

As a side note,I bought the photo matched Montana in Lelands last auction...I haven't gotten it yet, but will post when I get it...I was a little concerned that it didn't have a Bronco letter, knowing that Joe wore a new jersey pretty much every game and they were being handled by Bronco...but supposedly this jersey came from another athlete, and it is possible that Joe gave a jersey to someone, which would be out of Bronco's hands...I also have a video from the photo matched game so we'll see what happens...I do know for a fact that other players on the team were getting Rice's, Ricky Watters, among others, and either selling or trading them...

Have a great day!!!!

[CollectGU]

Re: Joe Montana game used???

Lund,

Thanks for the good info. Where have all the Montana's with 49er paperwork gone? I haven't seen one in at least 4 years...

Regards,
Dave