Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

[GMEN92]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

Hey John,

I actually had an opportunity to see this fine ensemble about a month ago prior to it hitting the Heritage Auction block... I am no expert but I did my usual extensive research on it... and for several reasons this time I will keep my opinion to myself...

I would have to disagree with you James .. Aka visual
This jersey definitely matches up.. See attached pic ..

I find it funny how you bashed the helmet and told all it was fake and no way real..

Then all of a sudden the photo Match you provided saying it was fake all a sudden happen to show it was real..hmmmm

Perhaps it was a failed effort to downplay it so you can get it cheaper..

I personally looked into this sanders jersey and I found a few matches. So I guess your not the only one with a sanders matched jersey..

I don't see why you talk negative about stuff just to wind up putting your foot in your mouth, as we are all here to be helpful and educate one another..

Let's see maybe you just missed the photo match as you did with the helmet.. ??
I doubt it..
So I hope these matches help others see the truth and that it wouldn't be just another down playing by visual

[GMEN92]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

Another match..

[GMEN92]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

Here's the pants match..

[VISUALCONCEPTSNJ]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

Here's the pants match..

First if all, I NEVER bashed it ERIC… OOPS! I mean Mike… I chose to keep my opinion to myself.

Second of all, I definitely DO NOT consider a wrinkle in THE WRONG place on a sleeve a Photomatch by any means. Those are the same (in my opinion) Pathetic supposed matches that were provided to me when I was originally shown this FANTASTIC uniform.

I missed absolutely nothing on this uniform and if I was looking to get anything cheaper as you say, I wouldnt've shown that it was good and that it did match until AFTER the auction was over. Hmmmm…

[VISUALCONCEPTSNJ]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

First if all, I NEVER bashed it ERIC… OOPS! I mean Mike… I chose to keep my opinion to myself.

Second of all, I definitely DO NOT consider a wrinkle in THE WRONG place on a sleeve a Photomatch by any means. Those are the same (in my opinion) Pathetic supposed matches that were provided to me when I was originally shown this FANTASTIC uniform.

I missed absolutely nothing on this uniform and if I was looking to get anything cheaper as you say, I wouldnt've shown that it was good and that it did match until AFTER the auction was over. Hmmmm…

This is EXACTLY the reason right here Ladies and Gentlemen of why a wrinkle and a loose thread SHOULD NOT be considered a Photo Match in this great hobby of ours…

Here is Barry vs. Tampa Bay in 1998… Oh wow!!! Wrinkle on sleeve!!! Even better- Loose thread on bottom of "2"!!!! BUT……… (IN MY OPINION) Reebok logo in wrong position on shoulder.

NO MATCH!!!

[VISUALCONCEPTSNJ]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

This is EXACTLY the reason right here Ladies and Gentlemen of why a wrinkle and a loose thread SHOULD NOT be considered a Photo Match in this great hobby of ours…

Here is Barry vs. Tampa Bay in 1998… Oh wow!!! Wrinkle on sleeve!!! Even better- Loose thread on bottom of "2"!!!! BUT……… (IN MY OPINION) Reebok logo in wrong position on shoulder.

NO MATCH!!!

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[VISUALCONCEPTSNJ]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

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Better view…

[jhunt28]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

I was starting to think this thread was headed in the right direction... Then WHAM!! Someone called out someone else in a terrifically passive aggressive way, and totally flips the tables!

I don't know visualconcepts, but he did publicly apologize for calling the Barry helmet junk, and said he made a mistake.

He also never said a word about the HA Barry uniform being good or bad? He just had "no comment". And I think he said he already owns a Barry jersey, so I'm sure he doesn't need another? But I could be speaking out of turn on that comment?

Visual seems like he has a terrific collection, And has provided this site with many great jerseys and many great matches. So I think we should keep the conspiracy theories about his auction gamesmanship to a minimum. I'd hate to lose another great collector to the pettiness of this site.

[VISUALCONCEPTSNJ]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

I was starting to think this thread was headed in the right direction... Then WHAM!! Someone called out someone else in a terrifically passive aggressive way, and totally flips the tables!

I don't know visualconcepts, but he did publicly apologize for calling the Barry helmet junk, and said he made a mistake.

He also never said a word about the HA Barry uniform being good or bad? He just had "no comment". And I think he said he already owns a Barry jersey, so I'm sure he doesn't need another? But I could be speaking out of turn on that comment?

Visual seems like he has a terrific collection, And has provided this site with many great jerseys and many great matches. So I think we should keep the conspiracy theories about his auction gamesmanship to a minimum. I'd hate to lose another great collector to the pettiness of this site.

Thank you so much…

[GMEN92]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

First off I'm not going by anything that was shown to you or not.. I'm going by what I found and what my thoughts are on it..

Just as you stated the rivets and the Lions paw are a different distance on the helmet then changed that opinion which is exactly what it is an opinion to say that it was OK .. Hmm

All I am stating is exactly what I found. And the ones I believe we're a match. I don't justify what James says is a match or not that's just his opinion as my opinion is my own..

And as we seen with the helmet he was incorrect.. So just because he makes circles and says it's NO MATCH. He must be correct??

Why didn't you mention the other photo where the jersey holes line up exactly?? Is that not a exact match.. Looks like it is to me.

[GMEN92]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

Jhunt.. I never once mentioned anything of his collection.. Alls I said was about his "opinions" on matches..

[VISUALCONCEPTSNJ]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

I would have to disagree with you James .. Aka visual
This jersey definitely matches up.. See attached pic ..

I find it funny how you bashed the helmet and told all it was fake and no way real..

Then all of a sudden the photo Match you provided saying it was fake all a sudden happen to show it was real..hmmmm

Perhaps it was a failed effort to downplay it so you can get it cheaper..

I personally looked into this sanders jersey and I found a few matches. So I guess your not the only one with a sanders matched jersey..

I don't see why you talk negative about stuff just to wind up putting your foot in your mouth, as we are all here to be helpful and educate one another..

Let's see maybe you just missed the photo match as you did with the helmet.. ??
I doubt it..
So I hope these matches help others see the truth and that it wouldn't be just another down playing by visual

I must admit, very impressive side by side presentation… but why focus on the blurry jumbled bottom part of the "2" and cut off the top part that clearly tells it all?!?!

[VISUALCONCEPTSNJ]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

Jhunt.. I never once mentioned anything of his collection.. Alls I said was about his "opinions" on matches..

My opinions and my side by sides are only to try to help the hobby in the best way that I can. I am no expert by any means and yes I do make mistakes at times and am glad to admit when I am wrong… I never make mistakes purposely for any dishonest reasons…

I have been involved in way too many bashings over the years on this forum and quite honestly find it annoying and exhausting…
I am done talking about this jersey and will return to my original statement…
I have NO COMMENT and I will NOT be bidding on it…
Best of luck to anyone who does...

[GMEN92]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

First off..
Can you show the larger version of the "2" your showing ..
I find it odd the the bottom matches so good but not the top..

Secondly you know that's not my side by side as you seen that weeks ago as well that's Marshall's view on the jersey .. So we both know him and he does very quality matches ..

Third how can you bash using loose threads to say its a match or not ..
If I not mistaken isn't that the way you matched your Brady jersey ..?

As others are interested in the jersey and so am I .. Also awaiting video of the game to try and better match it ..

I thank anyone in advance if they can help as well ..as they did with the helmet..
I agree that's what the forum is good for.. And hope others will give there points as well

And visual as you stated your negative opinion on the helmet.. Didn't you already have the photos of the match at that time you made those remarks ..As I'm the one that got you all the pics you used. .So seems funny to me..

But enough about the helmet and that story.. Good luck to all bidding..

And again if anyone else can chime in on the jersey I would appreciate it..

[VISUALCONCEPTSNJ]

Re: Reggie White Super Bowl Jersey

I would have to disagree with you James .. Aka visual
This jersey definitely matches up.. See attached pic ..

I find it funny how you bashed the helmet and told all it was fake and no way real..

Then all of a sudden the photo Match you provided saying it was fake all a sudden happen to show it was real..hmmmm

Perhaps it was a failed effort to downplay it so you can get it cheaper..

I personally looked into this sanders jersey and I found a few matches. So I guess your not the only one with a sanders matched jersey..

I don't see why you talk negative about stuff just to wind up putting your foot in your mouth, as we are all here to be helpful and educate one another..

Let's see maybe you just missed the photo match as you did with the helmet.. ??
I doubt it..
So I hope these matches help others see the truth and that it wouldn't be just another down playing by visual

I used the same "2" that you provided in your posting on the left side with the yellow circles and here is the "2" off of the Auction site which clearly shows the mesh pattern inside the top part. I had that photo that I posted of the top part of the "2" saved from when the jersey was presented to me for sale the first time around… I think it was taken of the jersey from the owners cell phone or something and sent to me through a mutual collector when the item was being offered.

Why would you say that you have provided me with photos?!?! When you definitely have NOT…

This is just getting way too weird for me…

But anyway...Just because I was not interested in this fine ensemble the first time around, was asked "my opinion" this time around and chose to give "no comment" and clearly stated that I would not bid on it *once again when asked* I don't feel that this should have escalated to this level. When "matches" were provided, I simply showed the areas of the jersey "in my opinion" that I was uncomfortable with, I don't feel deserves a full on attack, does it?!
This is America. Everyone can buy what they choose to, bid on what they choose to, and should not be personally attacked, criticized or judged if they do not want an item or do not feel comfortable with something.
I NEVER once said the jersey/ uniform was bad. It just simply isn't for me. THAT'S IT.
Once again… I am NOT interested in this item. I will NOT be bidding on this item. I am not an expert in this hobby or in photo matching. I do the best that I can to contribute to the hobby for the enjoyment of it and anything that I post is simply OPINION and NOT FACT!!! Once again… There are no ulterior motives behind any of my postings.
If I was trying to pull a fast one with the Barry helmet, wouldn't I have posted the MATCHES AFTER the auction closed and saved myself a ton of money on it during the bidding process?!?! NO!!! I don't operate that way. I provided the matches now and apologized publicly so everyone would have a fair shot at it and know exactly that they were bidding on a genuine piece… Think about that for a minute…
Again… Good Luck to all in all of the auctions...