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Re: Beware: Fake Derek Jeter game used bat on eBay
I've fell victim to a Game Used football that was passed off to be something that it wasn't from this seller. I've learned thankfully through a friend of mine on this board that had me take a look at this thread.
That person is aware of this thread and states that this was all a misunderstanding and was part of a black mail threat and retaliation that has resulted in all of this.
Oh and the "guy" is actually a women, or so they claim.
Re: Beware eBay seller MOMTOLUISANDKATI faking game used memorabilia
It sounds like eBay seller MOMTOLUISANDKATI has been up to more than just faking Derek Jeter game used memorabilia...
After reviewing auctions won and listed by the same seller, it is apparent that this seller purchases NFL game ready footballs and re-sells them as game-used, not before adding a low-quality authentication sticker from GR8/DNA, what appears to be his/her own attempt at a Certificate of Authenticity signed by Mark Jacobs.
FAKE! FAKE! FAKE!
It seems as though the seller removed the bat from eBay. However, this criminal is still out there ripping off many innocent people. I've added additional photos of his fake Derek Jeter game used bat.
Do any of you with prior dealings with eBay seller MOMTOLUISANDKATI know if Mark Jacobs is the seller?
Re: Beware: Fake Derek Jeter game used bat on eBay
Here are some Ebay numbers to help you, keeping in mind cameras and lighting vary the results are pretty similar.
Bears game ball, not used but you can tell how dark it is even in the bag. Clearly it's been brushed and tacked. 141341056931
Broncos game ball, used and dark. Has the BCA logo, and Broncos etching. Also has team and ref markings on front panel.171384886207
Jets "game ball" , no markings or use, noticeably lighter than prior two. Does however have etching. I would figure teams get a large amount of the BCA and Salute balls to ensure they can last the month. The overflow then has to be purged somehow. 181462448825
That said, to me knowing the BCA balls are done that way, the 9/11 must be until I saw something that proved me they absolutely weren't.
Re: Beware: Fake Derek Jeter game used bat on eBay
I was at a Wilson demo a year or so back. They were making balls there.
Every ball sent to a team is should have the team name etched in, now an exception may be made with the logo balls.
Personally, I've was told every ball gets brushed and tacked by the equipment manager and those balls are then taken by each team to the game. A K ball will not be brushed but marked or stamped K right away.
I suppose it is possible that some of those balls are not used for a particular event, but it's not going to even be thought of "on field" without the equipment manager prepping it.
If I were you, I'd request a full refund. More than likely it's a retail ball, unless the prior auction said otherwise. Even then how much do you trust it's the same ball if it has no real way to photo match.
Re: Beware: Fake Derek Jeter game used bat on eBay
Well it seems to be a trend of the seller is buying stuff and trying to relist at a higher asking price... And as we see was now pointed out that the seller has doctored some of the items...
I personally bought a game ball from this seller with 9/11 ribbon and was presented as ready for use and was used for presentation But those balls were never game used seller told me.. and appeares they bought the ball a month ago as I looked on there feedback and was new in box.. And apparently I didn't get the box .. Because mine was supposedly taking off the feild.. Well now we see that was a bunch of bs...
But great work on the Jeter bat ..
Hopefully someone didn't get burned ..
Any info on how to tell what year the balls were used would be a great help. Thanks
Re: Beware: Fake Derek Jeter game used bat on eBay
I too had a run in with this guy over a Andrew Luck helmet.
Guy listed a revolution helmet with a white mask, which the Colts haven't worn since like 1994 and obviously not in the last 3 years.
He clearly lists it as a "Game Helmet" , when pressed his response was this;
It's an authentic, not a replica revolution helmet. This is NOT a "game used" helmet. It would be worth WAY more if it was. It is authentic, not a cheap replica.
Then later he has a change of heart over listing it as a "Game Helmet"
I just read the description on the helmet on eBay and the way I worded it is confusing. I do not want to mislead. I'm changing it now. Thank you for asking the question.
He went back to the old way, the next listing and it sold to some poor person. Guy really damages the hobby two ways, I've bought really nice "homemade" stuff that displays great for a fraction of the price. He really drives business away from those guys with poor work. Then obviously he also misleads many people into buying a product polar opposite of what it really is.
Re: Beware: Fake Derek Jeter game used bat on eBay
I was showing some interest in the signed Marcus Allen Super Bowl presentation ball he has. It came up about 2 weeks ago. The autograph seems good on it, but since I saw the Jeter bat and checked his feedback and what he did to the bat I am not pursuing it any farther. By the way the Jeter bat listing is ended.
Re: Beware: Fake Derek Jeter game used bat on eBay
I've had a run in with this guy. But with his so called
game used footballs. Most if not all are fakes, with the
with him using a sharpie to make the ref marks. I inquired
About a ball 4 months ago. He stated it was a cowboys 2010
Game used ball. I asked for the date code initials, I checked an the
Ball was dated from 2012 season. After I told him I couldn't be, all
The other balls he was selling had rub damage in the
same area. Hmmmm go figure. I sent him pic's of the before shots
An he was pretty much speechless.
Now he offers them with some cheap COA
with sticker. I asked if there was a data base for his COA's, or a business
Like PSA/DNA. He said it was in the process. Then tells me that Steiner doesn't
Have a data base for there COA's.
I told him, Steiner is a actual million dollar business by phone and online an has
been around awhile. Not some shady, misrepresenting eBay seller
that forges.
Re: Beware: Fake Derek Jeter game used bat on eBay
I did a bit more digging into the seller MOMTOLUISANDKATI and you won't believe what I discovered...
BUSTED!!!On 6/25/2014 the same seller purchased this exact bat on eBay without any ball marks for $199!
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