Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Howard,
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Thanks Fran
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Forum Readers-
I received the following email from David Hunt today:
"The Carlton shirt has been pulled. Even though we state it was not worn by Carlton, there are simply too many anomolies to keep it in the sale. The wrong dating of the mfg. tag being the most concerning"
Personally, I commend David Hunt for taking the time to research this shirt, once the stated issues were brought to his attention, and likewise, remove it from his current auction.
Howard Wolf
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Ironmanfan,
"interesting" does not begin to describe mr. kirk.Leave a comment:
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
I just sold Robert Kirk a game worn hat back in the summer of 2006. He still is alive and well in the New Jersey area. Wanted to sell me some old Orioles hats when he found out I was a big fan.Leave a comment:
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Does anyone know if Bob Kirk is still around? He was one of the more "interesting" people I've run into in this hobby...I recall him selling (or consigning) a good portion of his collection to a New Jersey dealer a few years back.Leave a comment:
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Howard and Lon,
I believe this is the same Carlton that Bob Kirk (though he always addressed himself as "Mr. R. P. Kirk" to me - I'm assuming this is the same person) floated by me a while back. I quickly passed for some of the reasons cited. Looks like it finally found a home at Hunt's.
Hope you're both well.
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Howard,
I agree with you that at this point this jersey with it's inherent problems merits no further photos, discussion,ect. I only meant that a front photo would have been nice to see to 100% satisfy me that this was the jersey I have seen before on 3 seperate occasions. The tagging would have confirmed this for me. My other thought was, if for some reason (and this is a stretch) it's not the jersey that either one of us has seen before, then you're dealing with multiples of this type jersey. That may be a good thing to know for future reference.Leave a comment:
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
As I mentioned before, I have a few contracts from the participants in this series and I found it interesting to note while reading these contracts (under player's responsibility) "You further agree to bring one complete home and road uniform of your Major League Club, along with any special playing equipment which you will require for the exhibition, e.g. gloves, shoes, catcher's gear, protective helmet, etc."
Obviously this should settle the debate about this Carlton top.
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Hi Lon-
If it was a blank Rawlings game jersey, then your earlier information may not support this. You indicated that it had embroidery on this Hunt jersey. Clearly, a spare 1979 Rawlings would have chainstitching like the McCarver I posted. Whatever it is, it's not the usual 1979 Maroon the Phillies wore. Likewise, do we really care what the front looks like? We've already determined that the NOB, tagging and size are incorrect-do we really need more evidence?
In regard to tagging location, they are on the right front bottom exterior portion of the tail.
I heard back from David Hunt. He is looking into this in greater detail. As of this post, the jersey remains listed with no changes to the description.
Howard Wolf
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Howard,
I don't believe that the jersey I mentioned was a Mitchell and Ness repro as the M & N jerseys are easy to detect. I think it was originally either a blank Rawlings game jersey made up or a "retail jersey" made up. Either way, it was not a Carlton gamer U.S.,Japan or otherwise. If there was a photo of the front of the Hunt auction jersey I could probably nail it down further but I think with what you have stated regarding this jersey anyone who reads this post should get the message. One question though on your jerseys are the tags on the left or right side of the tail?Leave a comment:
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Howard...Great Link to the '79 MLB Japan Tour. It reminded that I have the original contracts from a few of the players from that tour (Molitor, Parrish, Kemp & Dennis Leonard). If anyone is interested in any of these neat contracts please let me know.
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Lon-
See the attached story about the 1979 tour. On the left side of the story, you will find 2 photos-Luzinski and Rose at the Tour wearing regular season jerseys, not the maroon.
Interesting!
Howard Wolf
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Lon-
See the 1979 Mitchell and Ness Schmidt currently on Ebay:
It even has the same reproduction patch!
Thoughts?
Howard Wolf
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Lon-
I believe Mitchell and Ness sold a reproduction of the 1979 Carlton. Given the fact that you indicate tags were removed/replaced on the one you saw, I'm curious to now see what the M & N version looked like? If my memory serves correct, it too had vertical arch lettering and the Tour of Japan patch. Possibly another reader can locate a photo of the M & N version and post it here.
Just a thought...........
Howard Wolf
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Re: Carlton 1979 Tour Of Japan Jersey?
Howard, thanks for responding. the jersey that I described in the previous post as having originated from Robert Kirk has some tagging problems one of which is that you can see where another Rawlings/strip tag was when viewed on a lightr table. The other being that the strip tag is embroidered not chain stitched and of the wrong size letters/numbers that Rawlings used. As you probably know Rawlings started using embroidery instead of chain stitching for their strip tags in 1985 so the Kirk jersey must have got a 6 year head start on the rest of the Rawlings jerseys from 1979-84. Aside from your valid observations this is one great jersey. I wonder what grade it recieved?Leave a comment:
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