Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

[seanbaseball]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend as I respect your opinion. Or inform me as to what authentication methods would be used elsewhere.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove according to the consignor which attributes the glove to Gehrig. Also, the glove comes from one of the greatest Yankees collections on earth.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

It seems there isn't some special authentication method that u need to use or a certain expert you need to sign off on the glove. these old gloves without rock solid provenance are a guess at best. I think everyone is saying is that there is no real evidence to call this attributed to Gehrig any more than some other gloves out there. And your disclaimer on the auction makes it clear that once they pay u wash your hands of the glove. Like buying a used car.....sold as is...buyer beware. So stop asking others to authenticate your work......and if they cant then they are wrong. Seems like your job is to make the best case for the glove and people here are saying they aren't buying the case u made. It happens.

[Marshall]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend as I respect your opinion. Or inform me as to what authentication methods would be used elsewhere.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove according to the consignor which attributes the glove to Gehrig. Also, the glove comes from one of the greatest Yankees collections on earth.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

[Phil316]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

What WAS with the comment about asking phil to meet you at the national? It sounded like either a threat or you want to be his friend....

I have no personal issues with Marshall Perkins. I just googled his name and that website came up with a complaint.

Clearly as a game used community we are always on the look out for forged/non authentic items. Just as much as we are looking for a great item. If an item is called out do the right thing and Marshall did that.

Will I bid at infinite auctions, probably not. Clearly others do and to each thier own.

[Phil316]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

Marshall,


Your reputation follows you, remember that. Goodluck.

[Marshall]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove Authentication Process

Hello Yanks,

Please provide factual information. I'm not interested in debating with you as your conversation here doesn't lead me (or any other collector who is reading this) to believe that you've done any research on this particular item that would equip you to offer any accurate information in regards to this particular item. Where is your research? I would love for you to post it here as I want the hobby to be fully informed and your informed educated opinion is important to me and many others who read this thread.....


As Stated Earlier.......

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove according to the consignor which attributes the glove to Gehrig. Also, the glove comes from one of the greatest Yankees collections on earth.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

[yanks12025]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove Authentication Process

Hello Dave,

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend as I respect your opinion. Or inform me as to what authentication methods would be used elsewhere.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove from the consignor.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

You haven't even proved that it's real!!!! Lol. Where is the "solid provenance" that you mention in your description.

As I stated before, it wouldn't be hard to find a glove similar to this one. So are you gonna call that also attributed to Gehrig.

[Marshall]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove Authentication Process

FWIW: This isn't the first time a baseball glove had less than stellar authentication methods. A bit over 10 years ago, an authenticator needed to verify a Joe Morgan glove. His method: tossing it to me as I stood in an autograph line awaiting Morgan's signature while he sidled up behind Morgan and asked me to show him the mitt while he listened to Morgan's comments. Morgan did believe it to be his.

Dave Miedema

Hello Dave,

Specifically enlighten me as to what specific authentication methods you would personally recommend as I respect your opinion. Or inform me as to what authentication methods would be used elsewhere.

-We can reference the size and weights of the two most recent sales of Gehrig gloves sold at auction.
-We can reference Draper & Maynard manufacturing records and catalogues from the period.
-We can document Gehrig's endorsement contracts with glove makers.
-We can even document his known glove styles worn during specific periods of his career.
-We can take into account the history of the glove from the consignor.
-We can even pull up hundreds of editorial images of Gehrig with the Yankees wearing an almost identical glove.

With only two known examples in the hobby (none being photo-matched) and this being the first rookie era glove I am beyond open to hearing expert opinions from serious vintage collectors and authenticators. The glove dates to almost a century ago so we obviously aren't going to get a player letter, Team LOA or MLB Authentication.

The glove is Authentic in my opinion. All auction houses have opinions. All authenticators have opinions.

If anyone can prove that the glove is not authentic I will pull the lot immediately. If someone has any additional historical support of the glove I will update the auction listing.

[sox83cubs84]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

FWIW: This isn't the first time a baseball glove had less than stellar authentication methods. A bit over 10 years ago, an authenticator needed to verify a Joe Morgan glove. His method: tossing it to me as I stood in an autograph line awaiting Morgan's signature while he sidled up behind Morgan and asked me to show him the mitt while he listened to Morgan's comments. Morgan did believe it to be his.

Dave Miedema

[Juicyfruit66]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

What WAS with the comment about asking phil to meet you at the national? It sounded like either a threat or you want to be his friend....

[Marshall]

Pujols Jersey - Withdrawn

The Pujols jersey has been withdrawn due to the sharing of useful/factual information within the game used community. Thank you.

[Marshall]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

My apologies - I should have provided my factual evidence to assist you, the professional who has spent countless hours speaking with experts on the items within your own auction.

Pujols Jersey - This jersey originated on eBay and sold for a paltry $346. Here is a link http://www.ebay.com/itm/221963438646?ul_noapp=true

Doesn't matter if it came from SCP or eBay really - the front "5" is absolutely the wrong size and placement on the jersey. The gap between the top of the number and the middle is wayyyy too large. The name on the back is also incorrect and looks like it was done at a local sporting good shop. I am guessing these inconsistencies are what drive you to list this same jersey over and over at each auction and the reason it continues to sell for $300-$600.

Correa Jersey - Originally you listed this jersey as a game used jersey from Correas rookie year. Of course that is impossible because the front tagging shows it to be a 2013 jersey. Correa didn't debut until 2015. This too appears in auction after auction on infiniteauctions.com. I guess you got it right this time by calling it a "professional model jersey". My apologies, I spoke too soon and I am glad you consulted with experts to get it right.

I have no idea about your photomatched Jordan's, elways, jeters, etc. Nor do I really care.

I also have never seen a company need to put a disclaimer on an item such as the "Gehrig" glove where you are basically not going to investigate or listen to any other "experts" on the glove's authenticity and that the buyer is basically stuck with it. That in of itself speaks volumes about your conviction on the glove's authenticity.

Challenging forum members to "meet you" is laughable. What are we in 8th grade? Why don't you go to the national and get some better "experts, authenticators, equipment managers".

Sherbal. Thank you for the useful information on the Pujols jersey. The Pujols jersey will be pulled and mailed back to SCP. Information like that helps the collecting community and assists me. Otherwise I'm not interested in vague opinions or gossip. As for your last comment. I'm not interested.

[sherbal15]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

The Pujols jersey was purchased by our consignor from SCP Auctions. Visit the auction lot as the SCP label has been added to the listing. The Correa jersey is simply a professional model jersey with a starting bid of $200. I am open to any and all questions from any and all collectors in regards to all items listed in www.infiniteauctions.com.

Did you see the photomatched Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Derek Jeter and John Elway Jerseys????? ARE THOSE A JOKE AS WELL.

Any Questions??? Is this what the forum has come to? I've spent hundreds of hours away from my wife and kids sorting through photos, speaking with experts, authenticators, equipment managers and dealing with all types of people to present an auction to the public and rather than someone contact me at info@infiniteaucitons.com or call me at 480-988-5847...... We are here. I pull items just like any other auction house if valid information is provided.

PROVIDE SOMETHING FACTUAL AND ASSIST! Otherwise you're a gossiping child in my opinion.

LAME @PHIL3:16 Come and see me. I mean that. I'll be at the next national.

My apologies - I should have provided my factual evidence to assist you, the professional who has spent countless hours speaking with experts on the items within your own auction.

Pujols Jersey - This jersey originated on eBay and sold for a paltry $346. Here is a link http://www.ebay.com/itm/221963438646?ul_noapp=true

Doesn't matter if it came from SCP or eBay really - the front "5" is absolutely the wrong size and placement on the jersey. The gap between the top of the number and the middle is wayyyy too large. The name on the back is also incorrect and looks like it was done at a local sporting good shop. I am guessing these inconsistencies are what drive you to list this same jersey over and over at each auction and the reason it continues to sell for $300-$600.

Correa Jersey - Originally you listed this jersey as a game used jersey from Correas rookie year. Of course that is impossible because the front tagging shows it to be a 2013 jersey. Correa didn't debut until 2015. This too appears in auction after auction on infiniteauctions.com. I guess you got it right this time by calling it a "professional model jersey". My apologies, I spoke too soon and I am glad you consulted with experts to get it right.

I have no idea about your photomatched Jordan's, elways, jeters, etc. Nor do I really care.

I also have never seen a company need to put a disclaimer on an item such as the "Gehrig" glove where you are basically not going to investigate or listen to any other "experts" on the glove's authenticity and that the buyer is basically stuck with it. That in of itself speaks volumes about your conviction on the glove's authenticity.

Challenging forum members to "meet you" is laughable. What are we in 8th grade? Why don't you go to the national and get some better "experts, authenticators, equipment managers".

[Juicyfruit66]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

How does posting a similar looking glove make it a match? Reminds me of that babe ruth bat auction from awhile back.

[yanks12025]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

The Pujols jersey was purchased by our consignor from SCP Auctions. Visit the auction lot as the SCP label has been added to the listing. The Correa jersey is simply a professional model jersey with a starting bid of $200. I am open to any and all questions from any and all collectors in regards to all items listed in www.infiniteauctions.com.

Did you see the photomatched Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Derek Jeter and John Elway Jerseys????? ARE THOSE A JOKE AS WELL.

Any Questions??? Is this what the forum has come to? I've spent hundreds of hours away from my wife and kids sorting through photos, speaking with experts, authenticators, equipment managers and dealing with all types of people to present an auction to the public and rather than someone contact me at info@infiniteaucitons.com or call me at 480-988-5847...... We are here. I pull items just like any other auction house if valid information is provided.

PROVIDE SOMETHING FACTUAL AND ASSIST! Otherwise you're a gossiping child in my opinion.

LAME @PHIL3:16 Come and see me. I mean that. I'll be at the next national.

Why don't you provide factual evidence supporting your Lou Gehrig. "Attributed" glove besides "we found a photo of him using one that looks like this. Your description says it has solid provenance, yet your description or letter mention no real provenance. I can find other first basemen gloves that look like ones Gehrig used.

[Marshall]

Re: Lou Gehrig attributed Glove. LOL

The Pujols jersey was purchased by our consignor from SCP Auctions. Visit the auction lot as the SCP label has been added to the listing. The Correa jersey is simply a professional model jersey with a starting bid of $200. I am open to any and all questions from any and all collectors in regards to all items listed in www.infiniteauctions.com.

Did you see the photomatched Michael Jordan, LeBron James, Allen Iverson, Derek Jeter and John Elway Jerseys????? ARE THOSE A JOKE AS WELL.

Any Questions??? Is this what the forum has come to? I've spent hundreds of hours away from my wife and kids sorting through photos, speaking with experts, authenticators, equipment managers and dealing with all types of people to present an auction to the public and rather than someone contact me at info@infiniteaucitons.com or call me at 480-988-5847...... We are here. I pull items just like any other auction house if valid information is provided.

PROVIDE SOMETHING FACTUAL AND ASSIST! Otherwise you're a gossiping child in my opinion.

LAME @PHIL3:16 Come and see me. I mean that. I'll be at the next national.