Theories on Steiner Soriano?

[JETEFAN]

Re: Theories on Steiner Soriano?

Lampson was just an example....mind you a bad one. But if I were trying to sell the jersey I would have been crucified. The point I was making is that besides the fact that yes Steiner is a class act and they are exclusive to the Yankees, bottom line is that they are a private company that benefits greatly on "Yankees" products and the more product produced "mo money!!" And as I mentioned before through great marketing we are to believe that because it's Steiner it's the real deal. Steiner is free to sell anything they want, from the Yankees or not and represent it any which way they want. I am not saying nor do I wish to imply that Steiner is misrepresenting any Yankees items.

[JETEFAN]

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With Steiner if the Jersey is or isn't being misrepresented you know it is still a real Jersey coming directly from the Yankees since they have an exclusive contract with the Yankees for there equipment.


Suave how do "I know", because they are telling me so ? Yes they do have the Yankees deal, but are still free to sell anything they want!!

[suave1477]

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JETEFAN well for the simplefact a little thing called a law suit?????


It would be ilegal to advertise and sell something that it really isn't.

Not to mention the Steiner is not some run of the mill mom and pop shop. They are a owned by one of the largest conglomreates in the world.

So if you don't want to believe them, then thats cool more for me lol lol

[JETEFAN]

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Hey Suave are they as big as ENRON? .....

[sportscentury]

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Hey Suave are they as big as ENRON? .....

George,

I suspect that Jason's epistemology is a little different from ours (based on our many discussions over the years, I believe ours are the same or, at least, very similar). As far as I'm concerned, unless you have a true photomatch or the player hands the item to you as he walks off the field, a person cannot know that it was game worn by the player.

As for Steiner, I have simply seen too many items that show little to no wear. I have bought some Steiner items, but have been highly selective. The last Steiner Yankees item I purchased was purported to be a pair of Randy Johnson's game worn pants. However, when I received them, they had another player's uniform number in the strip tag. When I questioned this, it was explained to me that the pants were attributed to Johnson because of their length. That simply was not good enough for me, so I returned them. However, I wish the information about the other player's uniform number had been disclosed up front, or at least explained in the Steiner letter.

Reid

[JETEFAN]

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Reid,

Well said, it all boils down to do your homework and know your source, the shingle hanging by the front door doesn't impress me.


George

[cohibasmoker]

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I wonder what the reaction would be from hobby members if the jersey in question DID NOT come from Steiner.

[JETEFAN]

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Cohibasmoker, I can tell you exactly what the reaction would be. I once posted a Yankees Jersey which was perfect in every way and was crucified and hung out to dry on the forum for it because it did not have a Steiner cert. I was told that because Steiner had already sold a couple and due to the amount of jersey's that the experts assumed were issued to the players, mine had to be the bad one. I know from whom I got it from and there is no question it was the real deal. Now we have one that is not even close and because it's from "Steiner" people are comming up with all kinds of excuses only because it is Steiner. Is it beyond any realm of possibility that this Jersey is bogus, even if it is from Steiner?

[suave1477]

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Well to all the people here I never once said anything regarding the actual use on the Jersey. But it seems like people here like to imagine I talked about use and ran with it.

All I said regarding Steiner was that they have the exclusive rights to the Yankees equipment as to regards of who makes the actual descision what is used and issued or used or issued from promotions I have no idea. I was just merely reiterating the source it came from being STEINER is reliable source of Yankees equipment since they have the contract in place with them. If for some crazy reason Steiner is throwing in fakes that would be a foolish move on there behalf but your right anything could be possible. As far as the people I personally know at their office, I trust them as far as where they got the item from.

As to the other members comment regarding a photomatch or being handed the Jersey off the players back. That would be a beautiful thing in a perfect world unfortunately every time I scream out to AROD can you take your jersey off and give it to me - for some crazy reason he never listens. Which leaves us to possible photomatching - which we all know for every moment in sports and every Game Used item out there, we cannot do. Again as far as the actual use and who used it I ALWAYS SAY DO YOUR HOMEWORK.

I myself have recieved items from them when I thought it was sold as from one player and realized it was from another. I contacted them, let them know of the situation and had it corrected.

As far as the question about Enron the answer is they are bigger then Enron.

[mvandor]

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Regarding use, this IS baseball, not football. It's pretty easy for ball players to get through a game without diving, sliding, or otherwise doing much of anything. Hell, you can get through a game without even sweating if you don't get on base or have to run much in the field.

[sportscentury]

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Regarding use, this IS baseball, not football. It's pretty easy for ball players to get through a game without diving, sliding, or otherwise doing much of anything. Hell, you can get through a game without even sweating if you don't get on base or have to run much in the field.

Surely there are many game used baseball jerseys that show little to no use - you'll get no argument from me there. However, I have a tough time paying serious prices for jerseys that are purported to be game used when they look identical to jerseys that are nothing more than game issued (this is not a statement about Steiner items as much as it is a statement about buying jerseys in general). If you feel comfortable with paying a premium for jerseys that show little to no use, then that is fine, as it is a matter of personal preference. However, for my dollar, I want items that show evidence that they were in fact game used. Some people take comfort in knowing that a jersey has come from Steiner, regardless of the degree of game use the jersey shows, but I'm not one of them. To each his own, as the saying goes.